Know all those sites. Whats the problem? Another look over there moment ?
What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "
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start at 35:00
OK, Dennis Small is a Lyndon Larouche devotee.
That article is behind a paywall, but one has to wonder what drives people with no connection to Ukraine to become emotionally invested in what goes on there?
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On an individual basis , I agree.
On an international relations basis , I think the US is very much involved. We have had in force a whole history of friendly social and economic relations.
United with Ukraine
*“*The United States’ commitment to Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity is ironclad.”
ANTONY J. BLINKEN
SECRETARY OF STATE
U.S.-Ukraine Relations
The United States established diplomatic relations with Ukraine in 1991, following its independence from the Soviet Union. The United States attaches great importance to the success of Ukraine’s transition to a modern democratic state with a flourishing market economy.
U.S. policy is centered on realizing and strengthening a democratic, prosperous, and secure Ukraine more closely integrated into Europe and Euro-Atlantic structures. The U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership highlights the importance of the bilateral relationship and outlines enhanced cooperation in the areas of defense, security, economics and trade, energy security, democracy, and cultural exchanges.
It also emphasizes the continued commitment of the United States to support enhanced engagement between the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and Ukraine. To fulfill one of the key tenets of the charter, the two countries have established the Strategic Partnership Commission.
Its a russiaphobia thing thats been planted in their brains from the cold war days and beyond
What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "
The United States attaches great importance to the success of Ukraine’s transition to a modern democratic state with a flourishing market economy to the last Ukranian.
The U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership highlights the importance of the bilateral relationship and outlines enhanced cooperation in the areas of defense, security, economics and trade, energy security, democracy, and cultural exchanges right down to the last Ukranian standing.
It’s amazing the history of it all:
Oops. Seems they’ve left out some crucial detail…
“On the other hand, Lebed had no personal political aspirations. He was
unpopular among many Ukrainian émigrés owing to his brutal takeover of the
UPA during the war––a takeover that included the assassination of rivals.95 He
was absolutely secure. To prevent Soviet penetration, he allowed no one in his
inner circle who arrived in the West after 1945. He was said to have a first-rate
operational mind, and by 1948 he was, according to Dulles, “of inestimable value
to this Agency and its operations.”96 The CIA’s AERODYNAMIC files contain
tremendous operational detail on AERODYNAMIC, most of which cannot be
recounted here.” - www.archives.gov/files/iwg/reports/hitlers-shadow.pdf
This is about how deep some people have gotten on the Ukraine propaganda.
That Russiagate propaganda exists first as a blindfold is not helpful, either.
To seek the truth means obviously going deeper. Following the mainstream narrative to the cross of the ‘t’ is not going to cut it. You will be so ashamed of yourselves; just as Germans to this day will go out of their way to apologize for their cultural failure; ours is in some ways more perverse. To bring to account the transgressions on civilization that the United $tates Federal Government has brought about will be cause for denial by some, and for the rest we will sink to our knees and plead for forgiveness. Of course the only way through the morass will be an accountability project, so no different than there was a a Nazi War Crimes Disclousre Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/105th-congress/house-bill/4007
this effort will be even larger and broader in scope whereby the grievances of individuals dispossessed of their good standing have a formal system which will accrue accountability so that the complete picture can be developed, shall we say, in a court of law.
The only way that we wind up in a system run amuck so bad as the present conditions expose is via extreme corruption and infiltration. That there are two candidates from either side of the political spectrum that are running to demolish the deep state is indicative of the times that we are in. No such has occurred in prior election cycles. Even from the inside there is a sense of excitement. A system saturated in thugs who operate on a need to know basis grows tired of its lack of understanding; left to put together a larger picture which all can see is fading to red, much as they insert wrenches into the gears of the new machine, though they know not why. Such may provide yet another excellent source of information in the coming investigation. A simple one time bonus should suffice, along with limited immunity i.e. no hanging or gas chamber or electrocution.
"On October 16, executions were carried out by hanging in the gymnasium of the courthouse. "
Hermann Göring, Joachim von Robbentrop, Wilhelm Keitel, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank, Wilhelm Frick, Julius Streicher, Fritz Sauckel, Alfred Jodl, Arthur Seyss-Inquart
I would think our list could be considerably longer.
What do you mean, end up? Divine right of kings was the norm 150 years ago. Media was openly bias until the 50s in this country. Still is. We are still struggling to complete the Enlightenment project. We didn’t defeat evil and it came back, it’s been there and has to be quarantined when we can.
I suspect that this picture is photo-shopped. The “bubble” gives it away.
Ukraine’s Jewish President Zelenskiy asks Putin: ‘How could I be a Nazi?’
Ukrainian president calls on Russians to consider the cost of war.
From the Politico (Zelensky):"You know our character. You know our people. " And to stuff a few more words in his mouth: you know our nazis.
Flushing out the system a bit more:
“These studies are the remarkable fruit of a wholly
unprecedented effort to locate, declassify, and
analyze many thousands of World War II-related
U.S. intelligence, military, law enforcement, and
diplomatic files that remained classified decades
beyond any legitimate need for secrecy.The studies make important contributions to our knowledge of the Holocaust and other ghastly Axis
crimes. Some of the disclosures set forth in these
pages, particularly those regarding the means by
which perpetrators of Nazi crimes against humanity were able evade justice and the extent of
Allied government contemporaneous awareness
of the Third Reich’s genocidal plans, are both
depressing and disturbing.”
—Eli Rosenbaum, Director, Department of Justice,
Office of Special Investigations" - www.archives.gov/files/iwg/finding-aids/us-intelligence-and-the-nazis.pdf
The sort of propaganda that we live through now has to deal in all of this accumulation… or does it? It cannot possibly come up with a coherent statement or belief system, and so we witness low grade propaganda. It has to be of a dying system. They can have you quack like a duck, or bark like a dog, but when they have you quacking like a dog the thing sort of goes broke. To rise from the ashes suggests a clean burn, doesn’t it? Ukranian Russophobia is a fraudulent belief system. It has been manufactured by the U.$. since the end of the WW2. Our ties are already established on this thread. By all means if you identify with Ukrainian nationalism and believe in their superiority then get to the front lines now!
You seem to believe in Russian nationalism and superiority. Does that make you a Communist?
If so, step right up to the front lines in Ukraine and kill all those Ukrainian NAZIs
I believe that Zelenskyy, as president of Ukraine can claim a nationalistic Ukrainian agenda.
That does NOT make him a NAZI. It makes him a Ukrainian, defending his country against a foreign invader.
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Exactly why I don’t read your posts. You put words in mouths. I prefer discussing reality
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Exerpt;
U.S. Intelligence and the Nazis discuss hundreds of the 8 million-plus documents released under the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act by the CIA, FBI, NSA, Army, State Department, and other U.S. agencies.
This is a classic example of misinterpretation by a “conspiracy adherent”, concluding that the US and Nazies are collaborating in historical research and therefore are in bed together.
The possibility that the Nazis mentioned may have been prisoners who had valuable knowledge and were consulted for information, does not even occur to the conspiratorially obsessed mind.
The US is a Nazi-loving country? Yes, that’s why we bombed Germany into submission.
I fail to understand this obessessive preoccupation with conspiracies contrary to “known” facts.
There were Nazis living here, working with elected people, publishing their crap. But they were investigated, slowed down enough to keep them from gaining power. In the end, it was the voters that got rid of them.
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Oh yes, we’ve always had Nazis here in the US. I live in No. Idaho, home to a major Neo-Nazi group. I’m sure you have heard about them. But these were just small groups of uneducated and dissatisfied individuals who blame all their woes on “other people”.
Trump legitimized their existence as being “good people” and that was sufficient for these Neo-Nazis to re-emerge as a “weaponized” political party, small but armed with deadly AR15s, kinda reminiscent of Hitler’s Sturmabteilung (Stormtroopers), who were instrumental in Hitler’s rise to power.
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Definitely the case for some of these people. For others – like the writer of that article, he appears to be pro-Russian invasion.
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Definitely.
" On February 5th, an event called “Bandera readings” took place in Kiev – a forum about the goals and objectives of nationalists, involving representatives from various such groups. The organizer was the party “Svoboda” and the conference was chaired by one of its members, former People’s Deputy of Ukraine Yuriy Sirotyuk." "The West gave us weapons because we have fun killing"
This is a pretty decent article mostly covering C14, which could read like CIA, but in the open. Much less formalized and much more visible, too. For ages I’ve gone to substack and refused to join, and the articles are obfuscated as a result. I’ve given them a junk email account and it seems I’m getting their articles for free now. So if you are of the freegan sort, I’d recommend doing the same.
Yes. It seems Maddow is doing her part to normalize the Nazi stuff.
But where you are wrong, lausten, is on the result. They are gaining power in Ukraine. Lebed and his movement are now launched via the U.$.F.G. We are witnessing exactly what you are in denial of. In effect you are one of the normalized; one of the propagandized. Obviously you are not alone, and clearly the confrontation that we are having here is healthy. Your link of Maddow’s ocassional reference to Nazis and Germany, and no doubt with a light pooh-pooh at the end as if those nationalistic sentiments do not exist here in this country which exists upon its exceptional nature; that they might not be converted quite quickly in fact; this no doubt is one way that it will go down, and I have little doubt that the cancel culture we witness you and yours participating in is a primer. Good dogs, right? C14 as dogs on the street is established. They like it there. Zelensky will have done well when he sends the last of them to the front lines. We built the Nazi problem in Ukraine, and now the Russians will fix it.
Here is another source; essentially normalizing the neo-nazi thing:
Bellingcat has been fully scrutinized by the gray zone(bellingcat - The Grayzone) as a propaganda wing of the deep state.
In a sense they are brothers with C14, and here they are in effect normalizing themselves by issuing such a limited hangout.
Please note that nowhere in these pieces, whether the superior intellect of Rachel Maddow, or the miraculous truth-tellers at Bellingcat, do the national archives or the term ‘Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act’ seem to surface, and yet there lays a penetrating truth that leads to Lebed chained to a printing press in New York City, but for his disguised escapades into Ukraine and beyond, handing the next edition of Suchasnist to what; unsuspecting folk? Not at all. Apparently this entire ruse has been well understood the entire time. As to how the public in a nation with a constitutional right to the free press could be this informationally repressed is a valid problem that no doubt a Nazi could explain.