@greenfist
What are you drinking? Forty two inches is the bar height. I am having a Glenfiddich 12 years. The guy you are dissing is partial to a very fancy single malt Scotch.
I wouldn’t mind some of that Glenfiddich, right now.
Lausten you put it up. Happy to go through it one by one with you if you wantI don't see what that would accomplish. The discussion is about counting up lies, or using some imaginary "bar" to determine a binary liar/not liar. That's the strategyI'm questioning.
I thought you were up for the challenge but no.I love a good challenge. So far, I can only see a discussion where I try to explain to you what a premise is or what logical fallacy you employed. You'll have to do better if you want to engage me.
Where is the fallacy and what is the premise?Doesn't matter. The point is you have given me nothing to actually respond to, nothing of substance. If I respond to this question, then my prophecy has already proven true. You didn't ask a question, you said we could "go through" a list.
Dont understand you. I am a responding to thisI understand that you are having trouble understanding. What was your question?
Long time Senators are going to have records that anyone with a mind to, can take apart and put back together in ways that suggest inconsistencies. (Even for Bernie.)
As far as the last debate, Biden did fine. Bernie did ok, but nothing near enough to propel him toward overwhelming victories in tomorrow’s elections.
I am thinking that the “movement”, the revolution of new young people coming out to vote in a new Era of Bernie, just isn’t going to happen. It has been an amazing effort, but I think his run for the Presidency will not culminate in his victory. I hope that he can continue to promote his progressive ideals effectively, as he recognizes it will not be him leading the country next year.
But most of all, I hope that his followers realize that their own interests and the future of progressivism require their active support of Biden in defeating T rump.
Apathy is a wonderful thing. Biden and his son in the White House would be more or less a repeat of Trump and his kids unless something changes in the Senate. Oh yes, except without impeachment of course. Who is the Dem candidate probably won’t matter, the virus panic will be over and the economy will be back by November. Bernie’s brown shirts will stay away in droves.
Unlike T rump’s family in the White House, the surviving Biden son is unlikely to be a part of the govt.
Again you try to use a false equivalency. You indicate that Biden is as corrupt of a nepotist as T rump. Sorry, not even close. Let me give an example of a true equivalency: false equivalency users = pissants.
It will be a while before the worst of the COVID-19 outbreak is done. We don’t know when the most restrictive curtailments of our economy will begin to be relaxed. When we do know, then, maybe the economy can get running again. But when will that be? T rump will do anything he can to insure that it happens before November. But T rump has only shown incompetence, so far, in addressing the crisis. Maybe he has designated enough to the few reasonable people left in his administration. If he can keep his mouth shut and not contradict his own lies, as he almost always does, then maybe the economy recovers by then.
But maybe it won’t.
And most likely T rump will continue to contradict his own lies. If you lie as much as he does, there’s no way you can keep from contradicting yourself.
a lesson on not basing an economy on peoples needsThe vast majority of what people in this country today see as "needs" are actually "wants". The way the socialists want to address these fake needs is through centralized big government services. Any economy based on services, such as ours is now, is not sustainable.
If I wash your car, Joe cuts my hair, you cook for Tim and Bernie supervises the bus boys, we all starve because no one is producing anything. And of course the bureaucracy skims big bucks off the top. Services have always been a luxury allowed only by surpluses generated by production funded by capitalism.
If we must provide services, keep it simple, keep it local and keep big government out of it. Big government means big waste.
funded by capitalism.You left out the part where all the people buying crap is where capital comes from. I've never heard of any source of capital other than the difference between what price you can get for something minus the cost. Part of that cost is labor. You can't have capital without working people.
Actually, now days one can. Just buy self-checkouts, automated scrubbers (my husband had his hours cut because of this thing), and other automated crap. All you need is one person to supervise 6-8 self-checkouts, eliminated 5-7 cashiers for each area with self-checkouts and a repair person or two. Then you get rid of labour at places like Hellmart. Oh yes, a few people for Online grocery delivery, but you still cut your labour cost greatly, because to fill the orders, one can still use automated crap.
Mriana, If I order grocery deliveries from Hellmart, do you think they will have been handled by people with COVID-19, by the time I get them? I ask because, in a couple of weeks, I may go that route. Maybe I should ask, closer to that date. Two weeks is a lifetime, these days.
You left out the part where all the people buying crap is where capital comes from. I’ve never heard of any source of capital other than the difference between what price you can get for something minus the cost. Part of that cost is labor. You can’t have capital without working people.Absolutely!
Now figure out what happens in a service economy. If everyone consumes services, where is the profit? Stretch out the service chain to as many people as you like and either some will make more than others or no one will recoup anything other than their cost. A zero profit economy cannot grow. Growth, aka a better lifestyle, requires exploitation and profit. We either exploit and make a profit from the environment, through production, or from each other through services or we have no growth, no progress and no change in lifestyle. If we exploit each other through services, all we can accumulate is the potential to consume more services.
If we choose a production economy, we get to eat and have things like clothing, houses and cell phones. And yes we have to exploit the environment to do it.
HellmartMriana, there is more to life than money. I encourage you and anyone who doesn't enjoy their work to quit and get a better environment for you life. Seriously, if you don't look forward to getting up and going to where you work, QUIT. Do something else. Move to another place, get re-educated, take a lower paying job; whatever you have to do to make the required investments in yourself will be worth it. If you want to work on something, work on making your life better. You will be better able to serve yourself and those you care about if you are happy and those who care about you will be happy for you. Plan it out if you feel the need to, but do it. The sooner the better.
I’ve seen more than one person make a mid-life career change and its always been wonderful. Forget what people will think, forget what people will say, forget about the money; those who truly care about you will support your efforts. Do what you love, success will come.
Mriana, there is more to life than money.
I know, that’s why I hate Hellmart and other places like them, but when you get so old, no one wants you. What I want to doesn’t pay the bills because it’s volunteer work and I have to help my husband pay the bills. As for “re-education”, I’m in debt, in my 50s, with student loans for two degrees and they take ALL my tax returns and garnish my wages at the same time. Neither one helped me get a decent job and one cannot get a lower paying job than Hellmart unless they want to be homeless. I don’t think you get this thing called employment and bills. Capitalism sucks rocks and you probably won’t find another woman who wants Bernie Sanders to win more than I do or if you do, she’s in the same boat. I can’t do what I want when it doesn’t pay the bills, unless I want my husband and me to be homeless. You have no clue, but maybe when you get older you will, unless the survivors of this COVID-19 changes course with health care and more when it’s over.
Mriana, If I order grocery deliveries from Hellmart, do you think they will have been handled by people with COVID-19, by the time I get them? I ask because, in a couple of weeks, I may go that route. Maybe I should ask, closer to that date. Two weeks is a lifetime, these days.
I can’t give you a definite yes, given that some people are asymptomatic. I currently have an intestinal virus and according to my doctor, Hellmart employees have been exposed given the environment. However, she says my current diarrhea and upset stomach is not related to the COVID-19. So there’s that, but having the runs most of the morning and then thinking it finished late morning only to go through it again the next morning for the last 4 days… sigh. It started out not too bad on day one, then it got worse day 3 so I called my doctor, and now it’s better again on day 4. I cashiered day one and two because wasn’t too bad and stopped before I went to work, so I thought it was just nerves given I’ve been having panic attacks due to the crazy crowds. Nope, doctor thinks I have a virus, a different one, so I’ve been at home since yesterday, so there’s that too, but I don’t do OGP (Online Grocery Pickup). Since we don’t get paid when were off- no I won’t be paid for three days (I’m off until Wed. due to M and T being off already). So, those with mild symptoms, asymptomatic, or alike, might desire a paycheck bad enough to work through it, instead of staying home and asking their doctor for a test just in case. I’m not like that when I know it’s more than just my allergies or nerves. You may take your chances with delivery.
I haven’t heard of intestinal symptoms with COVID-19. (Strangely the run on toilet paper would suggest otherwise.) So if you are not having any fever at all, and no respiratory symptoms, you are probably COVID-19 free, or an asymptomatic carrier at worst.
I will have to go out for some prescriptions, at some point, maybe I could just grab a few things, while I’m out then. Aldi’s is smaller than other stores and they seem to have competent staff, as far as I can tell.
It’s not. There is, apparently an intestinal virus going around though- obviously, unless I’m a weird quirk. That’s what I said even my doctor said about my symptoms. No fever, although I do have some chest pain on my right side, that she thinks is probably from stress/panic, because she hears nothing wrong with my lungs and she’s listened to them twice earlier this month, but not this time around. I didn’t go in this time, just told her about my intestinal issues with no fever and told the right side of my chest still hurts over the phone. My chest has hurt this whole month on the right side though and it’s blown off as panic attack, because at times it better than other times. Who knows, but I don’t want to develop a fever just to find out.
I’m in debt, in my 50sIt may be hard for you to believe, but you are still young. I was probably out of college before you were born. I had several "careers"; the last one, and the best one, began at age 55 and is still going strong. One thing I learned from my elders was to not waste my life being unhappy.
You will probably live well into your 90’s. You can expect to be able to work into your 80’s if you choose to. You have plenty of time to make 20 - 25 years in a new field. If you are working at something you enjoy you won’t want to quit. Trust me on this, employers today know that older people are more reliable than younger people and are generally more honest. I drove past a car wash last week. A sign on the wall said “Closed due to unreliable help”. Really. If you were in business for yourself, what is the one big thing you want in an employee? You want them to want to be at work. I suspect you are more valuable than you realize.
How much of what I posted to you about investing in yourself would you not repeat as good advice to your children and grandchildren? If it would be good for them, then it is good for you. If you have made mistakes, be assured you’re not alone in that. Don’t beat yourself up over them; learn from them. Apparently you’ve been there, done that and have the T-shirts. Make better decisions, you are worth the effort.