Sharia Law has come to the US

Oh, you call this outpresidenting.? That’s like saying that the killer is outliving his victim.
You want Biden to declare Martial law and start killing people without due process?

Why not ask Putin to help get this situation resolved, because he is a strong leader who knows how to wield power!

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And now we have this . What you going to do about it Biden? Shrug your shoulders and then finger waving say naughty boys and girls? Absolutely useless in representing and defending the Dem base. Has to go.

I don’t know what “The Majority Report” is. I’ve never heard it before, and not surprising. Anyone can make a backdrop, set up some mics and produce a show. It looks very much like any other news show, except for what they say, except for how they interact, like they are people in their living room, after a few beers. That’s fine, but take it for what it is.

AOC is awesome. The chosen clip was a very generic statement about how government works. One I learned in 7th grade. Having never seen a SC impeachment, I don’t know how those work, so I can’t say why it hasn’t begun.

Just a few things that this so called “Report” show fails to address: Eisenhower had an incredible amount of power and influence, and he didn’t have militia groups running around killing people. If Biden added 3 judges, the next Republican President would add 6 more. The power of mid-term elections and the way we have been flipping Dem/Repub Presidents is more difficult to overcome than most of the political issues. Their claim that a high approval rating (which they exaggerate to 90%) has been overridden by gerrymandering and the money in primaries. Republicans can get people in office like Boebert and MTG, and they own the South and rural North by lying about immigration and election fraud, creating more votes in congress from fewer actual citizen votes. Not to mention voters just not wanting to participate at all since most of them get to choose between two conservatives, just one of them calls themselves “Democrat”.

So, YouTubes like this pander to people who think one guy, the President, can fix all that. They add to the divisiveness. They may be legitimately frustrated liberals, but they don’t have solutions. Either they are doing something that makes them feel good, getting click-bait in the process, or they are trying to destroy democracy. You can’t really tell.

I’m sorry that’s what you got out of it. I worked side by side with a variety of people.

KBJ is brilliant. Very intelligent. She’s also a liberal, taking the place of the liberal. She’s got talent. President Obama had talent too. I don’t know what you want by talent though- a dog and pony show? We had that with the dotard. No correction, we had a clown show- a clown show on the level of IT.

Planned Parenthood, if that’s what you mean by PP, will still distribute Plan B, as well as the Episcopalian hospital St. John’s in KC.

What’s the plan? I just looked up PP of MO and got:

https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/local/missouri

I’m using MO because it’s not only the state I live in, but it had a trigger law that made abortions illegal. In fact, MO started defunding PP before the Supreme Court decided to make women second class citizens again and kill many of them.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-st-louis-region-southwest-missouri/who-we-are/press-releases/missouri-legislature-defunds-planned-parenthood-again-weeks-before-abortion-will-likely-be-banned-2

Sadly, some states may go to requiring proof of residency in order to get an abortion. This keeps second class citizen women in MO and other states from leaving the state and getting an abortion in another state, UNLESS they can somehow forge proof of residency.

Making abortion illegal in MO and other states gets worse:

So what is next? We fight back, just as PP says.

That’s correct. President Biden CAN’T do much as president, but AOC, as part of Congress CAN do a lot. I keep trying to get that through to you, but you refuse to listen. President Biden doesn’t and cannot codify anything. I can’t say that enough, apparently. Congress can.

Because PrincePlanet can’t or won’t understand that President Biden can only do certain things and Congress does the other things. He cannot understand this is not one of the things Biden can do any more than he can fix the economy. Congress works on that stuff, but he can’t or won’t understand that.

President Biden can only do certain things. He cannot do all that you think he can.

Because Congress runs the country. Oh yes, the president can and often does sign some executive orders and sign a lot of things Congress passes in the House and Senate, but he doesn’t actually make laws or at least not lasting laws. So yes, AOC is going to run circles around him because she helps to create laws.

Do you see the president involved in the legislative? The vice president is involved, but not the president.

The president is part of the executive branch. Sorry to go back to grade school, but here it is:

https://bensguide.gpo.gov/a-executive

The president executes the laws created by the legislative (Congress) branch, which you will see a link to on that page.

The Supreme Court is the judicial branch, which you will also see a link. They decide what the laws mean.

You really don’t know what President Biden’s job is, do you? The dotard/#45 was/is a criminal, corrupt, and did many illegal things in office. He thought being a president made you a king. No, George Washington refused to be a king. That’s not what the president does. Nor is a president a dictator either. Please learn what the president’s job really is. What has happened to the educational system in the U.S.? Is it really true people don’t learn anything until college?

“Their claim that a high approval rating (which they exaggerate to 90%)”

How some people just like to argue and use insignificant points to dismiss every other point.

Majority report brought up a great point of what a leader such as FDR does when the SC threatens to overturn a popular welfare program in social security he threatened them with expanding the court and he never had a problem with SCOTUS every again on the new deal

I made many points, and you focused on one. Huh.

I’m not sure you even got that right, but I don’t feel like taking the time to try to find the quote. I don’t remember that she specifically mentioned background checks. But it doesn’t matter. My list was not just a “gish gallop”, it made the point that the President today has very different powers than FDR did. Today’s President can run a “police action” in another country for decades, but they don’t have direct checks on the Court and they don’t make laws. You buy into these narratives, then bring them here and tell us that you know better. That’s not what fact based discussions forums are for.

I’m not sure he’s even reading the posts. This thread is about the overturning of Roe v Wade and he’s talking about another topic, which is another thread. He’s talking about gun legislation in an abortion thread.

And who do you think approves the Justices? If 60 % of the Senate votes no there is no expansion of the court. Obama could not even get his nominee on the table.
McConnell just refused to consider the nomination. What is a president to do?

Putin just poisons anybody who disgrees with him. Is that the strength you want to see in a president ? It works…for a while!

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Youre not connecting with what AOC is advocating for. Does Biden have the power to establish womens health services on federal land? I say he does . What do you say?

You’re changing to a point that you made two days ago. You switched from a very general statement about Presidential powers to a specific program. This is not a failure of me not “tracking”. It’s you jumping all over the place.

(edited to include earlier references)

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I see and Biden should have seen this coming a long time ago.
How long has it been since the court ruled on Roe v Wade? Years? Months? Weeks? Days?
Biden should have a magic wand that he can just wave and make things happen instantly?
What fantasy land do you live in? In a democracy, the president cannot just make law.
That would be a dictatorship.

p.s. there are already proposals for such temporary solutions. But you see, there are these pesky appropriations that need to be voted on by congress.

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It’s not what I got out of it, it’s what our country got out of it, look at the news and the state of the nation, it speak for itself.

People that can explain the problems we are facing to their supporters, education - Getting people to understand why it matters, rather than tuning out which is what seems to be happening.

People who can define the lies that Christianfascists live by and drive home the reality of the WAR they have created manufactured in their haunted little heads, dedicated to wiping out American pluralism and democracy.

Why isn’t the simple idea and slogan “A woman’s life is more important that a fetus! Period” being screamed from the lips of every speaker and lawyer and politician???

Why do the Democrats bombard constituents when dozens of boiler plate panicked pleadings for ever more money??? But no ideas, no tools for networking…

Why not strive to explain how people can more successfully communicate with our neighbor and start changing minds???

And where the fu€% is that Democratic Party Online Discussion Forum, reaching out to inform, and engage their grassroots and to help them network and invigorate each other.

Make us feel like we’re on a team that wants to win and appreciates the problems facing us but is will to do the work needed to be done.

Demanding that truth, honesty, science matters, and so on and so forth.

Where’s this great Democratic upwelling that’s supposed to toss out the trump crazies and christianfascists and help turn to this country to it’s pluralistic goals and ideals.

and so on and so forth.

There you go, where is there any real political education or messaging - just the same old same old boiler plate.

And I’m not against donations I know the world runs on money, but it also is in need of fresh ideas, and team building, and motivation, and educating and engaging . . . . . . . . . .

mriana

But what got accomplished, and why should I be satisfied with the losing efforts of the past.

In some ways Obama presidency has been a disaster because of how well it coalesced racism into a political force pushing our country into out right fascist passions like never before. All because we didn’t keep our eye on the ball.

We, they, DNC still don’t - unless we are changing minds, we are losing.

I don’t want to sound like a total downer, trust me I’m ready to do my part, but where’s the movement, joining texting chains to send a couple thousand texts in a couple hours, the kinds of texts I hate receiving and usually ignore. That’s not changing minds.

As Mriana ponders my question to her, i looked up her PP link and only found a 2020 page on court rulings. What was this meant to show ?

Kamala here is a deer in headlights and cenk makes a great great point that the filibuster exception was brought in for the debt ceiling bill and was allowed to pass with 50 votes. Dems "leadership " wont do the same for womens rights. Its not important to them.

Great example of why we need a well connected, networked, engaged, informed grassroots.
Be able to scream en masse when the time is ripe.
Pound the table once in a while and tell them JUST DO IT!

Yes. No chance of energising your base to come out and vote if you cant tell the masses what you will do when you have the numbers

I think that’s one of the points I’m trying to make. :slightly_smiling_face:

And explain to them why they should care . . .
and what the facts are . . .
and help them achieve a more holistic appreciation for the many connections between us and the world around us.

And stuff like this is just brain dead

So everyone in the country got this out of it? Nice to know you know what’s on everyone’s mind. Personally, I never got that 1950’s feel.

Yeah. Looking at the intelligence level of the Dumpster people, I don’t think they are going to be educated about anything. Have you met some of the Dumpster people? They truly believe that the dotard improved this country. He didn’t improve anything. In fact, he made everything worse, including the level of violence in this country, but they won’t see it. So good luck with educating them.

Christian fascists are brainwashed- cult brainwashed. Unbrainwashing them would take incredible talent. It’s not going to happen. They homeschool their kids, which has lead to the above- lower education levels and lower intelligence.

Let’s go back to the brainwashing- every baby (aka blastocyst) is a gift from God. No one can kill the life God created. Every baby (aka blastocyst) is created by God (not sperm and ovum). In some cases, this goes back before conception and women cannot take birth control, because it’s killing the gifts of God. Women are a vessel for God’s gifts. And the BIG ONE a woman cannot say no to her husband. If he wants sex, she has to give it to him, no matter what and she has to accept the gift from God that occurs after that. Birth control is attempting to be God and rejecting his will. If God says you will have 20 babies, you have to have them, no matter what, because they ALL gifts from God (not sperm and ovum created).

That type of brainwashing takes a LOT of talent to undo, especially since they were homeschool and brainwashed into believing this crap. Their parents converted to a cult before they were born, bred a bunch of humans, brainwashed them, and now we have a bunch of Duggar Families all brainwashed. They won’t even take vaccinations, because if you get sick and die, that’s God’s will too. You cannot overrule/override God’s will or you are sinning. That’s what it’s come to and it’s crazy. Birth control is a sin, because attempts to control one’s life instead of letting God control your life.

It’s INSANE, but this is what I’ve heard from these brainwashed young people. I do believe many of them were born in the Quiverfull Movement, given that doctrine.

Here’s a couple links:

Those who have left the cult have a lot to say about it:

If all this brainwashing is all from this Quiverfull crap, then you are looking for some really awesome talent, because “if it ain’t from God, then it’s a sin.”

Only because the dotard encouraged it. I don’t think President Obama could have unbrainwashed the racist and BTW, racism is part of some of these cults too. God doesn’t want any “race mixing”, which we all know is a bunch of BS.

I can harp on the religious BS that people have been brainwashed with, especially in states like MO, KY, MS, AK, AL, TN, etc etc, but I’m sure you get the idea as to how stupid these brainwashed kids have grown up to be thanks to their parents going cults before they were born. They homeschool them with the Bible, which is NOT an education. They don’t teach them science and they sure as hell don’t teach them about reproduction.

What question? I never saw a question.

Good luck. If you can find someone with enough talent to unbrainwash those who grew up in a cult since birth, then that would be one of the best politicians yet.

Yeah, and you didn’t read the link to which way various source lean in their news reporting or even if they are just propaganda.