20 years ago, T rump said “I am pro-choice in every respect." But I imagine that was when saying that was what was most pro-T rump. As opposed to now, when it is most pro-T rump for him to destroy Roe v. Wade.
So he is the 1st ever POTUS to speak live at the annual march. In his speech to the March for Lifers, he said things like this, about Virginia Governor Northam, T rump said “The governor states that he would execute a baby after birth” . Of course T rump is a liar, and the Gov did not say that.
PRAY EVANGELICALS! PRAY the demons of deceit and corruption out of that hulking hyppocrite!
You think T rump gives a flying flip about abortion? Only so far as it can guarantee him some votes this November. Look at him in the photo. Is he joining in the prayer or is he imagining how he can get that blonde alone and grab her by the pussy? (At least if he gets her pregnant, she looks like she could afford to get an abortion without needing state funding support.)
No one says it is. Killing other people in war isn't a good thing either - oh but how we glorify it.
Sree can you explain
Why a woman doesn’t have sovereignty over her own body?
Why doesn’t a woman have the right to self-determination?
Why doesn’t a woman have any right to self-defense?
This one I don’t expect an answer to, because it would never be an honest response since it would be poser bullshit, but I’d like you to think about then anyways.
Is it your hatred of woman;
or your disgust with sex and sexuality
that convinces you that greedy fat old rich guys know better than individual woman in difficult circumstances.
Tim: Forcing a woman or girl to do what you want her to do with HER body, is not a good thing, Sree.
Let's not get paranoid. Christians in America are concerned about the erosion of traditional family values. They are not forcing women to have babies they don't want. They just don't think it is a good idea for people to mess around with human life. Don't you think this is as important as protecting koala bears from wild fires? The stated mission below is consistent with the humanist belief that stresses the value and goodness of the human being.
The mission of the March for Life is to provide all Americans with a place to testify to the beauty of life and the dignity of each human person.
Sree said : Let’s not get paranoid. Christians in America are concerned about the erosion of traditional family values. They are not forcing women to have babies they don’t want. They just don’t think it is a good idea for people to mess around with human life. Don’t you think this is as important as protecting koala bears from wild fires? The stated mission below is consistent with the humanist belief that stresses the value and goodness of the human being.
This whole argument is BS, big time BS!
Carlin puts “sanctity of life” in proper perspective. (warning crude language)
George Carlin has a foul mouth. I watched one of your clips of Carlin one time and had to turn it off. Sorry. It’s sad that public discourse in America has gone downhill. Bad manners is celebrated. It all began in the Summer of Love.
I did not know that. Bad manners began in 1968? (I guess you learn something ridiculous every day.) Is 1968 when T rump learned his bad manners? I think he was serving the country, back then, by dodging STD’s less assuredly than he avoided the draft. T rump was all about pro-choice back then.
How about this? T rump’s long time spiritual advisor seems to believe that abortions done by Jesus causing miscarriages IS a gloriously good thing.
Pastor Paula White called for Jesus to "command all satanic pregnancies to miscarry right now.”… "We declare that anything that’s been conceived in satanic wombs, that it will miscarry, it will not be able to carry forth any plan of destruction, any plan of harm.”
Furthermore… "We come against the marine kingdom, we come against the animal kingdom,” said White, eyes closed. “We declare that any strange winds — any strange winds that have been sent to hurt the church, sent against this nation, sent against our president, sent against myself, sent against others — we break it by the superior blood of Jesus right now.”
I am not sure what the marine and animal kingdom did to offend her. But she is big on casting Jesus to oppose the witchcraft of others.
Meanwhile Jesus must be staying busy as an abortionist. Most pregnancies, by far, are aborted by miscarriages. I guess Jesus/Gawd Almighty and Pastor White think that some abortion is a good thing. (This woman is an official member of T rump’s administration now.)
In her own defense, she later claimed that she was speaking metaphorically. So maybe she only thinks abortion is a good thing metaphorically.
Sree says “Let’s not get paranoid” (about decisions re: abortion being taken away from women who get pregnant).
Is it paranoia that women is some states have fewer and fewer options for safe abortions? No, because it is happening.
Is it paranoia to think that there are enough right wing Supreme Court Justices, already, to possibly overturn Roe V. Wade? Is it paranoia to think that one more T rump appointee to the SCOTUS will virtually insure the overturn of Roe v. Wade? No, sir. That is not an unreasonable fear. It is a reality based fear.
Hey Tim, you are overly suspicious about how our judges will make their decisions. Granted, they have their biases regardless of their commitment to justice. Roberts had voted for the left and so has Gorsuch and Kavenaugh. If I were a Chief Justice, I won’t be swayed by how you feel. I will decide and do what is right.
Let’s not get paranoid. Christians in America are concerned about the erosion of traditional family values.
No they aren't. It's Prosperity Doctrine they are concerned about. If Christians were concerned about traditional family values, they would not have allowed Cheney, Bush to destroyed humans, life's and neighborhoods, and civic infrastructure on a scale that dwarfs 9/11 a hundred fold at least.
Where are the Christians when it come to the trump Admin. atrocities that have visited families trying to enter our country.
The Christian ability to be self-righteous by over blowing niceties, all the while condoning the most hateful behavior and actions.
They are not forcing women to have babies they don’t want.
Oh course that is what they have been doing,
started and sustained by the Vatican ban on, not only Abortion, but Birth Control
Then the Reagan evangelicals commandeered the Abortion Issue as a political tool.
They just don’t think it is a good idea for people to mess around with human life.
Sure, tell that to all the kids screwed up by various brands of weird ministers and priests and nuns and religious predators of every stripe.
Don’t you think this is as important as protecting koala bears from wild fires?
Oh so, the biosphere and weather systems we depend on for everything should be disregarded?
You really think all that is just a environmentalist joke that it doesn’t exist in out real physical world outside of your religious musings?
The stated mission below is consistent with the humanist belief that stresses the value and goodness of the human being.
It's smoke up the kester, totally cynical disingenuous.
Sree, of course, the SCOTUS is politically biased. Their decisions are most often decided on their biased partisan orientations. Typically they are very predictable, accordingly. 5 to 4 is common, and there is commonly the same 5 on the conservative side and the same 4 on the liberal side. But deny the obvious if you don’t mind being wrong.
Roberts would like us to think that the Court is not politically biased. Thus he may occasionally swing both ways, but when the hammer hits the nail, he will typically be with the “righties”.
Tim: Sree, of course, the SCOTUS is politically biased.
I guess you are right. Ever since Trump came on the scene, everyone in America had had enough with the hemming and hawing. Folks started swinging definitely either to the left or the right. To hell with political correctness. Trump did not divide America. He just wanted everyone to be honest and come right out and be themselves. Flip your middle finger at him if you will and go to hell. It wasn't healthy having to hold it in during all those Obama years. Throwing up now feels much better. Now, we wait, like vultures for the next opening for Chief Justice on the US Supreme Court.
" Trump did not divide America. He just wanted everyone to be honest and come right out and be themselves."
Holy cow. That may be your biggest Whopper yet. Burger King wants you as their new chief chef.
T rump has been a full time troll against the 1/2 of America who do not wish to be his obsequious cult-like, corrupted, disciples, and who will not succumb to his unethical and immoral policies. So yes, as a POTUS, he has been peerless, among any POTUS’s in the last century and this one, in dividing the American people in to more and more starkly partisan camps. So, although T rump did not begin the partisan divide, he took full advantage of it and increased it to what it is today.
Now, your second assertion: “He (T rump) just wanted everyone to be honest and come right out and be themselves.”
Atheists often seem very concerned with Roe vs Wade, much more than anybody else including crazy far leftists. It would probably not even be at the top of the list of potential reversals on a right wing Supreme Court as it’s old news and there are plenty more modern issues on most people’s minds.
Trump doesn’t really care about these “culture war” issues so it’s safe to say he is just attempting to appeal more favorably to evangelicals because it’s an election year.
