Russian invasion to open a new chapter' in NATO history

He alone can push that button? I should doubt that. Do they have no fail-safe mechanism?

I ma sure they have, but the efficiency of such a mechanism depends from men, and men can be replaced, and everyone knows that men who displease Putin risk some accident or suicide.

With China backing Russia’s invasion, the “Quad” is getting more attention: Quadrilateral Security Dialog between US, India, Australia and Japan.

And like with Russia’s actions highlighting the importance of NATO, China has practically brought this on themselves:

But the geopolitical and strategic calculus in the region has shifted drastically over the past decade. Under Xi, China has abandoned former leader Deng Xiaoping’s decades-old mantra of “hide your strength, bide your time.” Instead, it has pursued a more assertive foreign policy, readily flexing its economic muscle and military might.

The Quad

Of course some will interpret this as another step in the USA’s plan to colonize and rule the world.

I don’t know what Russia has, except a crazy dictator that wants to control the world. Apparently he decided to bomb the crap out of the Ukraine himself, because it’s allegedly his war. How am I suppose to know what sort of checks and balances Russia does or does not have.

Hey, you can make a case that we mistreated Hitler and Japan because we treated them so harshly. Are you kidding me?

Of course Russia has been treated harshly since Lenin started Communist expansion.

There was “good” cause. At no time was Russia mistreated. It was always Russia that was mistreating its neighbors!

Vladimir Lenin

The newly established Communist Party, led by Marxist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, took control of the government. At its peak, the USSR would grow to contain 15 Soviet Socialist Republics.

Joseph Stalin

Georgian-born revolutionary Joseph Stalin rose to power upon Lenin’s death in 1924. The dictator ruled by terror with a series of brutal policies, which left millions of his own citizens dead. During his reign—which lasted until his death in 1953—Stalin transformed the Soviet Union from an agrarian society to an industrial and military superpower.

If were talking about NATO, then that’s after Lenin and all those guys

NATO is not a nation. It’s a treaty organization of different nations. The US is but one member, albeit a senior member. But as discussed before, any member can object to the acceptance of an applicant nation.

I was writing about the recent period, not the past.

I gave facts, are theses facts true ?

You gave a bunch of names. What exactly did the US gain from all those engagements? Territory, natural resources, and special commercial advantages? Or did we just bomb them for being a sovereign nation?

Let’s get back to the current period

A twenty-year veteran of Russia’s diplomatic service announced his resignation in protest against his country’s war on Ukraine, in a rare public protest by a Russian official, multiple media outlets reported. #CNN #News

“Warning: to explain is not to excuse or justify. I ma going to show the events as Putin analyzed them.”

Good, I have shown you the historical facts that made Russia a bad player.
The Soviet Union is where Putin grew up and gained his power. Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, he has wanted to restore it to its former “cruel” glory.
He cannot be allowed to do that, under any circumstances.

Nuclear blackmail is unacceptable. Putin must know that he is a small player in the face of the rest of the world.
And if he thinks China is going to back him he is mistaken. China would love to see the US and Russia have at it. They would be the last man standing, simply by their superior numbers (4x US) alone.

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I mostly agree.

But i would add that any state tries to increase its power, USA or France included.

The limit is that this must be done in the respect of some rules, which Russia and China despise.

Sometimes Western countries also.

I agree partly, but there is a difference between increasing economic influence such as international trade agreements or annexing an entire country by force.

I fully agree but there are shades.

Political and economical pressures to obtain agreements, helping a coup d’état, sending mercenaries, invading without annexing.

USA practices all theses. Do i need to give examples?

Just announced from several sources: Severodonetsk under LR control

RT: The major city of Severodonetsk has come under the full control of the Lugansk People’s Republic, Russian military spokesman, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, said in a statement on Saturday.

He said the LPR cities of Severodonetsk and Borovskoye, along with the settlements of Voronovo and Sirotino, had been “completely liberated” following “successful offensive operations” by republic’s forces, which were supported by Russian troops.

Today’s announcement means “the entire left-bank territory of the Seversky Donets river within the borders of the Lugansk People’s Republic has come under its full control,” the spokesperson added.

Earlier this month, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called Severodonetsk “an epicenter of the confrontation in the Donbass.”

“In many ways, the fate of our Donbass is being decided there,” he claimed.

Funny, the way we’re hearing it is that Severodonetsk has fallen to the occupation of Russian troops.

Its getting quite comical. Ukraine now says its a tactical retreat after shouting how Severodonetsk and Borovskoye must not be allowed to be lost.

Speaking of NATO, another historic day, June 28, 2022

Giood luck while their economies are in free fall