Trump is a product of that media, thinking he's somehow going to fix the broken system is ignoring that his identity and very value is completely tied up in that system. Trump wouldn't even know where to start to undo the damage that has been done over the decades and as I mention, it's not in his personal interests to do so.Yes, there is not much of a reason to believe that Trump would fix the unfair system that favors people like him. As I said earlier, Bernie Sanders is the only presidential candidate ever to get some money from me.
Yes, there is not much of a reason to believe that Trump would fix the unfair system that favors people like him. As I said earlier, Bernie Sanders is the only presidential candidate ever to get some money from me.Unfortunately not even the Democratic party was ready for someone who represented true change, and now we're left with a virtual reality celebrity who will say and do almost anything to feed a sense of entitlement that seems to know no boundaries. Exactly the kind of person the US electoral and political system was designed to prevent from holding power. Like chemo therapy for cancer, Trump is either going to cure or kill America.
I am against racism, sexism and xenophobia; although I would disagree with people who use these words wrongly due to their naiveté or dishonesty. Of course, I am for justice, dignity, fairness, human rights and citizenship rights for all kinds of people. However, as long as the world has many countries, citizenship rights in any country must be earned legally; i.e., by birth or via a due process.Yes. I agree. I like reading your posts.
I am against racism, sexism and xenophobia; although I would disagree with people who use these words wrongly due to their naiveté or dishonesty. Of course, I am for justice, dignity, fairness, human rights and citizenship rights for all kinds of people. However, as long as the world has many countries, citizenship rights in any country must be earned legally; i.e., by birth or via a due process.Yes. I agree. I like reading your posts. How can you agree with that and still support Trump. I'm pretty sure that someone who not only talks about sticking his tongue down the throats and hands in the crotches of unwilling women but almost certainly is guilty of doing just that is guilty of sexism of the worst kind. Keep in mind the Republican party tried to crucify Bill Clinton for engaging in consensual sex with a woman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PM9kwFwnc http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/15/a-look-at-the-women-making-allegations-against-trump_n_12503064.html I'm also sure that someone who led the movement to "prove" that America's first black President wasn't even born there and therefore wasn't qualified to hold the office, who refers to Mexicans in the worst terms, made untrue claims about immigrants celebrating the 911 attacks on the US, encouraged his supports at rallies to attack mostly black protestors and was endorsed by the KKK and the American Nazi Party is guilty of racism of the worst kind. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-perpetuated-birther-movement-years/story?id=42138176 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37230916 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/ http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004269364/trump-and-violence.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/01/the-kkks-official-newspaper-has-endorsed-donald-trump-for-president/ https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/american-nazi-chair-a-trump-win-would-be-a-real-opportunity?utm_term=.ov0dG4A4dG#.pt9XN7L7XN Celebrating the election of Trump to the Oval Office while claiming to be against actual racism and sexism is cognitive dissonance at a fundamental level. Of course that what's Trump's entire movement is built on, cognitive dissonance at a fundamental level. And looking at the facts what is this great time that Trump wants to take the US back to. A time when women didn't have the vote and equal rights as men perhaps? A time when blacks in many places also didn't have the vote and were subjected to violence and intimidation at an institutional level...kind of like a Trump rally where it was mostly black protesters being attacked by people upset that someone had crashed their "White Power" rally. Maybe an a America with exclusion laws to keep out the riff-raff as with the Chinese and other groups over the years. Let's all be grateful for Trump? Let's all hope that many of us survive the coming years, because America likely just put a sociopath in the White House...
Uhhh....what a relief that is. The election/campaign cycle is over and we were lucky enough that America wisely chose Trump. Been lurking for a couple days, really enjoy reading the insightful, astute comments from the regular 4-5 folks here. Great enthusiasm from you guys. Give yourselves a big hand. :-) Just delicious! mmmmmmm! Well looking forward to a good, productive 8 years of getting this nation back on track. I know you all are too. :-) See ya! Miss ya!You do realize that actual lives are at stake here and the fate of an entire nation and by extension the world. The lack of empathy being shown by Trump and his supporters is deeply disturbing, it's been at times in the past when people like this have risen to prominence and power that some of the worst atrocities have occurred. There's nothing "delicious" to look forward to with Donald Trump in the Oval Office and there is nothing to be grateful to him and his supporters for. Most Americans already knew how dysfunctional their electoral system had become, they didn't need to elect someone who is an absolute horror of a person to prove it.
VYAZMA be careful what you wish for.
Doug and Sam,
I like Bernie as a person, as president, no way in hell. I would have to pick Hillary over Bernie.
You don’t seem to find any reason that the people should have voted for Trump. Is that correct?
Hillary had the banks, Wall Street, Unions and government workers backing her. Is that not correct?
Hillary was organized the best of probability any election in history. Is that not correct?
Hillary had the media backing her up. Is that not correct?
Hillary had the media totally despising Trump. Is that not correct?
Nationalist from other countries and races were backing Hillary. Is that not correct?
There were main stream Republicans that would not back Trump. Is that not correct?
World leaders backed Hillary and rejected Trump. Is that not correct?
Hillary raised and spent more money than Trump. Is that not correct?
Both were from New York. Most of the country does not like New Yorkers. Is that not correct?
You never thought in a million years Trump would get nominated by the Republican Party which was in constant battle with Trump. Is that not correct?
So, one could assume that the people did not vote for Trump on personal or pass history accomplishments. Is that not correct?
So, tell me why did the people vote for Trump?
And don’t say that the American public are just stupid idiots, the emails or the FBI. You know those are just excuses.
I think you should come to terms with why Trump got elected before you will be able to understand the heartbeat of America.
It’s already starting, the American Nazis just held a meeting in Washington DC at a federally owned building praising Trump just like his sycophants here… and we’re supposed to be grateful for this evil crap!
The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum expressed alarm on Monday over "hateful speech" at a white nationalist meeting over the weekend, and a restaurant apologized for hosting the group after a woman tweeted a picture of herself in a Nazi salute. The National Policy Institute, a think-tank that is part of the alt-right movement that includes neo-Nazis, white supremacists and anti-Semites, held a gathering in Washington, D.C., at the federally owned Ronald Reagan Building on Saturday. A video by the Atlantic that was taken inside the conference showed Richard Spencer, leader of the National Policy Institute, shouting, "Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!" as some attendees lifted their hands in a Nazi salute. The alt-right movement came to the fore during the U.S. presidential election. President-elect Donald Trump has drawn criticism for naming Steve Bannon, former head of a website linked to the alt-right, as his chief White House strategist.What's next, an American version of the Reichstag fire so that Trump can "protect" us all from the baddies? I got real news for you, they don't come any worse than Donald Trump, just look who he runs with. Shouldn't it be obvious that when Trump and his supporters talk about respecting rights and being against racism, sexism and xenophobia they are in fact engaging in The Big Lie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie Just look at the poster who started this thread as praise of his glorious new fuhr...leader, he was at one point trying to sell himself off as a socialist here. http://www.centerforinquiry.net/forums/viewthread/17144/P15/
Oh ok. You need to cut back on the stronger varieties of Left-Wing Kool-Aid. Little sips are ok, but you’re getting drunk off it. This is coming from a left winger.We're in the deep stuff now, and pretending it's all going to be good or even safe is ignoring who just assumed the most powerful office in the US and by extension the world. There's a reason the lunatic fringe wanted this psychopath in the Oval Office and it wasn't because of the great job he was going to be doing for "all" Americans. There are millions of Americans he clearly has a deep contempt for; Women- 150 million Muslims- 3.3 million Blacks- 37.5 million Mexicans- 33.7 million Middle Class- 150 million Trump got into office by short-circuiting the democratic system, the only way a "person" like him is going to stay there is by neutralizing the checks and balances intended to prevent a tyrant from taking over the US. And that is exactly what Trump is despite the Big Lie he and his faithful keep trying to ram down our throats.
And once again let’s compare what we know about Donald trump to the most widely accepted and applied check list of psychopathic traits;
http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Hare-Psychopathy-Checklist.html
- glib and superficial charm: Yes
- grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self: Yes
- need for stimulation: Yes
- pathological lying: Yes
- cunning and manipulativeness: Yes
- lack of remorse or guilt: Yes
- shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness): Yes
- callousness and lack of empathy: Yes
- parasitic lifestyle: Yes
- poor behavioral controls: Yes
- sexual promiscuity: Yes
- early behavior problems: Yes- Let’s assume that Trumps illegal activities like sexually assaulting women didn’t just suddenly manifest in his 20s.
- lack of realistic long-term goals: Yes
- impulsivity: Yes
- irresponsibility: Yes
- failure to accept responsibility for own actions: Yes
- many short-term marital relationships: Yes
- juvenile delinquency: Who knows for sure, his father wealth could have easily been used to protect him
- revocation of conditional release: see above
- criminal versatility: Yes- He got away with sexual assault for decades
Congratulations America, you almost certainly just placed a strong psychopath in the Oval Office, one already connected to the US fascist movement.
And this is supposed to end well for us all?
Grateful, there’s one hell of a struggle coming for any real sense of compassion and empathy in the world and I seriously doubt that a person that fits neatly into the traits of a psychopath is going to lead that struggle. People like this end up finding really nasty ways of imposing their version of “order” on the rest of us… those that survive anyway.
Doug and Sam, I like Bernie as a person, as president, no way in hell. I would have to pick Hillary over Bernie. You don’t seem to find any reason that the people should have voted for Trump. Is that correct? Hillary had the banks, Wall Street, Unions and government workers backing her. Is that not correct? Hillary was organized the best of probability any election in history. Is that not correct? Hillary had the media backing her up. Is that not correct? Hillary had the media totally despising Trump. Is that not correct? Nationalist from other countries and races were backing Hillary. Is that not correct? There were main stream Republicans that would not back Trump. Is that not correct? World leaders backed Hillary and rejected Trump. Is that not correct? Hillary raised and spent more money than Trump. Is that not correct? Both were from New York. Most of the country does not like New Yorkers. Is that not correct? You never thought in a million years Trump would get nominated by the Republican Party which was in constant battle with Trump. Is that not correct? So, one could assume that the people did not vote for Trump on personal or pass history accomplishments. Is that not correct? So, tell me why did the people vote for Trump? And don’t say that the American public are just stupid idiots, the emails or the FBI. You know those are just excuses. I think you should come to terms with why Trump got elected before you will be able to understand the heartbeat of America.And on the other hand Trump has the US fascist alt-right backing him and placed one of them- Steve Bannon- in the center of power in the Oval Office. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/alt-right-media-outlet-breitbart-moves-into-the-donald-trump-administration-with-stephenbannon/article32929482/ Hillary may be many things, but she's not a psychopath or a fascist.... the same can not be said for Trump. People voting for Trump because they think he's going to "fix" America are the same people who'd give an arsonist the house keys and a jerry can of gasoline to do home improvements. It's delusional to think that a psychopathic fascist is going to do anything to fix a free and open society... they destroy them.
Doug and Sam, I like Bernie as a person, as president, no way in hell. I would have to pick Hillary over Bernie. You don’t seem to find any reason that the people should have voted for Trump. Is that correct? No, among a few reasons for people to vote for Trump was "the disastrous trade deals", to paraphrase Bernie Sanders. Hillary had the banks, Wall Street, Unions and government workers backing her. Is that not correct? That is correct. Hillary was organized the best of probability any election in history. Is that not correct? That is correct. Hillary had the media backing her up. Is that not correct? That is very correct. Hillary had the media totally despising Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. Nationalist from other countries and races were backing Hillary. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. There were main stream Republicans that would not back Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. World leaders backed Hillary and rejected Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. Hillary raised and spent more money than Trump. Is that not correct? That is correct. Both were from New York. Most of the country does not like New Yorkers. Is that not correct? That is correct. You never thought in a million years Trump would get nominated by the Republican Party which was in constant battle with Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. So, one could assume that the people did not vote for Trump on personal or pass history accomplishments. Is that not correct? Not sure what you are asking. So, tell me why did the people vote for Trump? Job loss due to trade deals, Hillary's dishonesty, toleration of Islamic fanaticism by Hillary/Democrats. And don’t say that the American public are just stupid idiots, the emails or the FBI. You know those are just excuses. Americans are not very politically conscious, but they have not gotten more stupid/racist than what they were 4, 8, or 16 years back. I think you should come to terms with why Trump got elected before you will be able to understand the heartbeat of America. CorrectTake a look at this video: http://www.iagreetosee.com/portfolio/we-are-democrats/#.WB0a0M-kKEJ.facebook I think the use of the US flag as a hijab is an insult to the liberty that the USA represents. I think people who do this are either dishonest or stupid when they claim to be humanist/feminist. Hijab is no free choice; it is a religious diktat that treats women as inferior to men.
I think you should come to terms with why Trump got elected before you will be able to understand the heartbeat of America.Tactical but oh so cynical strategic cultivation and manipulation of fear of each other. Well you can start out with the newly developed general acceptance of lies and slander among politicians, the media -- over down to earth sober assessment of the facts at hand, with good-faith constructive learning dictating the direction of our dialogue and behavior. Bannon and hysterical (but time and reality disconnected) fear-mongering Alt-Right message up against an impotent Democratic Party and candidate that's lost its way and can't explain itself out of kindergarten joke book. Lefties in their bubble, Righties in their bubble. A society that has been lulled into thinking maximizing profits and consumption is a good thing, rather than I long term suicidal behavior. Self-certain faith over Observable facts, etc, etc. . . The rest is cascading consequences.
Doug and Sam, I like Bernie as a person, as president, no way in hell. I would have to pick Hillary over Bernie. You don’t seem to find any reason that the people should have voted for Trump. Is that correct? No, among a few reasons for people to vote for Trump was "the disastrous trade deals", to paraphrase Bernie Sanders. Hillary had the banks, Wall Street, Unions and government workers backing her. Is that not correct? That is correct. Hillary was organized the best of probability any election in history. Is that not correct? That is correct. Hillary had the media backing her up. Is that not correct? That is very correct. Hillary had the media totally despising Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. Nationalist from other countries and races were backing Hillary. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. There were main stream Republicans that would not back Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. World leaders backed Hillary and rejected Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. Hillary raised and spent more money than Trump. Is that not correct? That is correct. Both were from New York. Most of the country does not like New Yorkers. Is that not correct? That is correct. You never thought in a million years Trump would get nominated by the Republican Party which was in constant battle with Trump. Is that not correct? That is mostly correct. So, one could assume that the people did not vote for Trump on personal or pass history accomplishments. Is that not correct? Not sure what you are asking. So, tell me why did the people vote for Trump? Job loss due to trade deals, Hillary's dishonesty, toleration of Islamic fanaticism by Hillary/Democrats. And don’t say that the American public are just stupid idiots, the emails or the FBI. You know those are just excuses. Americans are not very politically conscious, but they have not gotten more stupid/racist than what they were 4, 8, or 16 years back. I think you should come to terms with why Trump got elected before you will be able to understand the heartbeat of America. CorrectTake a look at this video: http://www.iagreetosee.com/portfolio/we-are-democrats/#.WB0a0M-kKEJ.facebook I think the use of the US flag as a hijab is an insult to the liberty that the USA represents. I think people who do this are either dishonest or stupid when they claim to be humanist/feminist. Hijab is no free choice; it is a religious diktat that treats women as inferior to men. I didn’t follow Bernie that much. I was surprised that he was against the trade deals. Good for Bernie. “And don’t say that the American public are just stupid idiots, the emails or the FBI. You know those are just excuses. Americans are not very politically conscious, but they have not gotten more stupid/racist than what they were 4, 8, or 16 years back." We have different views on this point. Americans are scared. Just about every American I know, knows someone who had their medical insurance taken away. People in retirement who had paid all their working life into a medical plan that would pay all the bills when they got old. Had their contracts torn up by the insurance carriers under the directions of the Federal Government. Big business used the Federal Government to rob them. They watched department heads lie to congress and get away with it. There is no doubt the whole show was a put on to fool the general public, thank god for Snowden. If you can’t trust your government, you had better be scared. Otherwise you are stupid. The smart people of America decided it was time for major changes in Washington. The people were not voting for Trump as much as voting against the ruling DC political machine. I totally agree with you about the hijab.
We have different views on this point. Americans are scared. Just about every American I know, knows someone who had their medical insurance taken away. People in retirement who had paid all their working life into a medical plan that would pay all the bills when they got old. Had their contracts torn up by the insurance carriers under the directions of the Federal Government. Big business used the Federal Government to rob them. They watched department heads lie to congress and get away with it. There is no doubt the whole show was a put on to fool the general public, thank god for Snowden. If you can’t trust your government, you had better be scared. Otherwise you are stupid. The smart people of America decided it was time for major changes in Washington. The people were not voting for Trump as much as voting against the ruling DC political machine. I totally agree with you about the hijab.I know people who were able to afford health care for the first time due to the affordable health care act. Before it there were about 45 million uninsured Americans and over 100 million under-insured - the insurance was only there if they didn't really need it. Health care reform under Obama didn't create a crisis for most Americans when it came to insurance, it acknowledged for the first time there was a very serious crisis that had been ignored for decades. Treating everything including illness as a way to make money is the issue here, not whether or not the "government" is trying to rob people. And actually trying to give people health care, which has worked in many cases - 20 million more Americans received insurance under ACA] - which the Obama administration did even if its augmentation was flawed beats the last administration which orchestrated one of the most expensive wars in US history for no real gain while standing back and allowing the Great Recession to happen and baled out billionaires with $700 billion dollars of public funds. So we have the democrats trying to save lives on the one hand while on the other hand the last Republican administration was doing everything it could to take them away. The total awareness intelligence scheme wasn't something dreamed up by Obama, it was created under Bush and Cheney. And the ruling machine isn't in Washington, it's Big Money in New York and Americans just elected President a psychopathic billionaire from there. Want to guess how much worse things are going to get from here.
It must take a lot of work to find out what the actual facts are and then create the exact opposite and present those. Which raises the question, what is the point anyway?
I guess if you’re a “news” outlet like Fox you can sell them to people who find reality too challenging. It doesn’t change the fact that reality hits us all at some point which also includes Donald Trump, that’s one fall many of us are truly looking forward to.
We have different views on this point. Americans are scared. Just about every American I know, knows someone who had their medical insurance taken away. People in retirement who had paid all their working life into a medical plan that would pay all the bills when they got old. Had their contracts torn up by the insurance carriers under the directions of the Federal Government. Big business used the Federal Government to rob them. They watched department heads lie to congress and get away with it. There is no doubt the whole show was a put on to fool the general public, thank god for Snowden. If you can’t trust your government, you had better be scared. Otherwise you are stupid. The smart people of America decided it was time for major changes in Washington. The people were not voting for Trump as much as voting against the ruling DC political machine. I totally agree with you about the hijab.I know people who were able to afford health care for the first time due to the affordable health care act. Before it there were about 45 million uninsured Americans and over 100 million under-insured - the insurance was only there if they didn't really need it. Health care reform under Obama didn't create a crisis for most Americans when it came to insurance, it acknowledged for the first time there was a very serious crisis that had been ignored for decades. Treating everything including illness as a way to make money is the issue here, not whether or not the "government" is trying to rob people. And actually trying to give people health care, which has worked in many cases - 20 million more Americans received insurance under ACA] - which the Obama administration did even if its augmentation was flawed beats the last administration which orchestrated one of the most expensive wars in US history for no real gain while standing back and allowing the Great Recession to happen and baled out billionaires with $700 billion dollars of public funds. So we have the democrats trying to save lives on the one hand while on the other hand the last Republican administration was doing everything it could to take them away. The total awareness intelligence scheme wasn't something dreamed up by Obama, it was created under Bush and Cheney. And the ruling machine isn't in Washington, it's Big Money in New York and Americans just elected President a psychopathic billionaire from there. Want to guess how much worse things are going to get from here. You just got fooled. You don’t know anyone that was able to afford health care. You know people who paid into a government subsidized program. The taxpayers were most likely paying more of the bill than the people that you know were paying. It is going to be interesting on how Trump will try and fix this mess. The whole Obamacare program is designed to crash and burn unless huge amounts of federal funds are pumped into the system. It is a federal program that is using federal dollars to keep the program afloat until the federal government passes the costs to the States. Where do you think the States are going to get the money from? The federal government is just printing its money. What are the states going to do? They could try and cut education costs in half and close state colleges. But then they end up battling Federal mandates. The people have reached a point where they will not approve more taxes. The Federal government will come and demand the people to pay more fees and taxes. Now the problem is not just State Power verses Federal power, it is the people power verses Federal Power. You just got a taste of that with the election of Trump. I disagree with you views on health care. Over 80% of health care costs occurs in the last few years of a person’s life. The idea is that you pay into a system that invests a large part of your monthly payment into the risk pool, reinsurance pools and reinvestment pools. Then as you get older your insurance payments will not increase and you have full coverage. These pools of money are huge and are never talked about in the news. Now the baby boomers are coming of age and the pools will start paying out on the health care. The health care industry got the government to take over the health care. Rewrite your health insurance contract. And they get to keep the money in the pools. The government insurance programs will not pay full coverage. So, you now have out of pocket expenses. Obamacare most likely would have worked if the government had taken the pool money from the insurance carriers. They did not. Why????????? Had the federal government taken the pool money. The States most likely would be fighting to get Obamacare up and running for their share of the pool funds. The investment funds would be covering much of the insurance costs. The States would have control of the health care which it historically always has had.
It must take a lot of work to find out what the actual facts are and then create the exact opposite and present those. Which raises the question, what is the point anyway? I guess if you're a "news" outlet like Fox you can sell them to people who find reality too challenging. It doesn't change the fact that reality hits us all at some point which also includes Donald Trump, that's one fall many of us are truly looking forward to.Or I could come to your conclusions (actual facts) that the American people are stupid and the only bright people in America today are the immigrants and minorities. Along with the highly educated people with ultra-left thinking. Keep pushing those ideas and watch what happens to the education funding.
We have different views on this point. Americans are scared. Just about every American I know, knows someone who had their medical insurance taken away. People in retirement who had paid all their working life into a medical plan that would pay all the bills when they got old. Had their contracts torn up by the insurance carriers under the directions of the Federal Government. Big business used the Federal Government to rob them. They watched department heads lie to congress and get away with it. There is no doubt the whole show was a put on to fool the general public, thank god for Snowden. If you can’t trust your government, you had better be scared. Otherwise you are stupid. The smart people of America decided it was time for major changes in Washington. The people were not voting for Trump as much as voting against the ruling DC political machine. I totally agree with you about the hijab.I know people who were able to afford health care for the first time due to the affordable health care act. Before it there were about 45 million uninsured Americans and over 100 million under-insured - the insurance was only there if they didn't really need it. Health care reform under Obama didn't create a crisis for most Americans when it came to insurance, it acknowledged for the first time there was a very serious crisis that had been ignored for decades. Treating everything including illness as a way to make money is the issue here, not whether or not the "government" is trying to rob people. And actually trying to give people health care, which has worked in many cases - 20 million more Americans received insurance under ACA] - which the Obama administration did even if its augmentation was flawed beats the last administration which orchestrated one of the most expensive wars in US history for no real gain while standing back and allowing the Great Recession to happen and baled out billionaires with $700 billion dollars of public funds. So we have the democrats trying to save lives on the one hand while on the other hand the last Republican administration was doing everything it could to take them away. The total awareness intelligence scheme wasn't something dreamed up by Obama, it was created under Bush and Cheney. And the ruling machine isn't in Washington, it's Big Money in New York and Americans just elected President a psychopathic billionaire from there. Want to guess how much worse things are going to get from here. You just got fooled. You don’t know anyone that was able to afford health care. You know people who paid into a government subsidized program. The taxpayers were most likely paying more of the bill than the people that you know were paying. It is going to be interesting on how Trump will try and fix this mess. The whole Obamacare program is designed to crash and burn unless huge amounts of federal funds are pumped into the system. It is a federal program that is using federal dollars to keep the program afloat until the federal government passes the costs to the States. Where do you think the States are going to get the money from? The federal government is just printing its money. What are the states going to do? They could try and cut education costs in half and close state colleges. But then they end up battling Federal mandates. The people have reached a point where they will not approve more taxes. The Federal government will come and demand the people to pay more fees and taxes. Now the problem is not just State Power verses Federal power, it is the people power verses Federal Power. You just got a taste of that with the election of Trump. I disagree with you views on health care. Over 80% of health care costs occurs in the last few years of a person’s life. The idea is that you pay into a system that invests a large part of your monthly payment into the risk pool, reinsurance pools and reinvestment pools. Then as you get older your insurance payments will not increase and you have full coverage. These pools of money are huge and are never talked about in the news. Now the baby boomers are coming of age and the pools will start paying out on the health care. The health care industry got the government to take over the health care. Rewrite your health insurance contract. And they get to keep the money in the pools. The government insurance programs will not pay full coverage. So, you now have out of pocket expenses. Obamacare most likely would have worked if the government had taken the pool money from the insurance carriers. They did not. Why????????? Had the federal government taken the pool money. The States most likely would be fighting to get Obamacare up and running for their share of the pool funds. The investment funds would be covering much of the insurance costs. The States would have control of the health care which it historically always has had. Take off your tin hat for one moment and finally listen to what's being said. There are millions of people who couldn't afford health care before the ACA who now can. It's not some government plot to take everybody's money, it's a flawed program in a deeply flawed political system in a society with some very serious issues. No one is going to "fix" health care in the US - or anything else - until the real issues are dealt with. The main one being this insane belief that money can fix all problems and that it's the only measure of worth. Something you constantly propagate with your equally insane climate change denial here. Trump isn't going to fix anything because more than anyone else who was running in this election he's entirely committed to the religion of money which is the real issue in America today.
You’re just encouraging him.
You're just encouraging him.Sadly, yes...sorry.