Democracy; representative or direct

Israel is not a threat to any country. Israel never begins the hostilities.
Hamas does not recognize the right of Israel to exist. If Palestine wants peace , kick out Hamas.
I’m willing to bet that then the bombing will stop.

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Israel is a threat to its immediate neighbours and the wider world as it tries to provoke war with iran and lebanon

" If Palestine wants peace , kick out Hamas"

This is the definition of terrorism. This is terrorist talk. - violent acts (bombing, starvation, no access to medicine healthcare) for political agenda (change the govt of hamas.

Definition
the unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.

CIA definition -
the calculated use of violence, or the threat of violence, to attain political goals through fear, intimidation or coercion. It usually involves a criminal act, often symbolic in nature, and is intended to influence an audience beyond the immediate victims.

“He is allowing nothing.”

Biden allows israel to go unpunished for the killing of children, the elderly , medical staff and now food aid workers. He has provided israel with weapons, money , soldiers , military intelligence and political cover to commit genocide.

Biden has given Netanyahu the green light to wipe Rafah off the face of the earth

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It doesn’t matter if you lose that bet or not. The experiment of destroying cities and killing children with “collateral damage” is not worth it. It can only lead to more terrorism, more people educated only in the language of violence.

The facts of history are counter to that

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Why would Israel want to do that? You are speculating about Israel’s intentions to stay out of everybosy’s business.

Israel only goes to war in response to an attack from its neighbors who have vowed to driveJews out, by any means!

After WWII Israel vowed “never again”. It’s time people realized Israel was serious about that.

Yes, and you are describing Hamas Those are the methods used by Hamas to further their Islamic goals. As I understand it, many Hamas are not even Palestinians.

Why do you hang that label on Israel? Place responsibility where it belongs.

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Yet many Palestinians are dying in the name fighting Hamas. You rarely even mention this

No, that is the subject of the discussion.
Nobody cares that “soldiers” are killed. That’s what they signed up for.
It’s the civilians who are “innocent bystanders” but become inevitably casualties of war.

It is a matter of perspective.
When we spray insecticide to kill stinging wasps, we also kill the honeybee that is responsible for the pollination of plants feeding 75 % of surface dwelling animals.

This is chaos at work. It is the inherent deterministic potential of all possible superposed futures, depending on the exact measurement of that future point in time.
That’s why we cannot predict (make an informed guess) of the weather more about 7 days in advance, too many variables. The larger the event, the greater the effect and future impact.

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We seem to be two different worlds

No, we are in the same world. If you sign up for military service, you know the risks and when you give your life in service of your country that is a noble thing and is rewarded with respect and honor in memorium.

It is the civilians who have the misfortune to live in the war zone, who are directly exposed to the violence.
But like a butterfly creating a hurricane, war is a chaotic event.

War only stops when the penalty for aggression is greater than the potential gains.
The US used this concept to end Japan’s entry in WWII via Pearl Harbor, with our nuclear destruction of 2 major population centers in Japan.

Different world

Different world

Retributive justice is a myth from the Bible

Not from a historical perspective. These ME religious wars have lasted thousands of years.

In the long term it is a Law of Nature. The 6th extinction event we find ourselves is Nature’s retribution, not for justice but for balance to correct man’s wanton use of fossil fuels.

“We don’t control anything but influence everything.”

Nobility of war is what men with maps say, not the ones who die.

That is no comfort for the child who’s father doesn’t come home. More justification for sending young people to get the spoils of war.

First; I am opposed to all forms of violence for the very fact they are uncontrollable.
Second: Everybody loves a military parade. These are the people who have pledged to defend the country, a noble cause.

And that’s why we bestow medals of recognition on both survivors and those who sacrificed their lives.

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I guess I’m nobody then. And all the vets that tossed their medals into a fire.

In another couple of centuries the world population will have reached its limits and some very difficult decisions will have to be made.

What are you saying? We’re talking about kids starving today as a result of this conflict

I would have agreed at the beginning of the year. Now it’s safe to say Biden and Trump are the only possible candidates.

It’s got to be one of the worst ballots in history.

RFK jr is an anti-vaccine conservationist.

Whats with the cryptic messaging? Spell it out