People losing their minds with what is happening in ukraine in that its not going to what they were told would happen. I dont see anyone calling for permanent ceasefires on this board
You see what you want to see. Or don’t see in this case
the evidence is there but you dont look hard enough or you wont accept it. I wonder who else uses that line of argument.
Biden can end the war in both ukraine and gaza although gaza more of a massacre than war.
I don’t see how Biden can stop the war in Ukraine, except by accepting that Putin destroys it, or over arming Ukraine so Russian army is crushed. I would be very happy if you can demonstrate that there is another way.
I would agree about Gaza. But Biden is not a dictator. He must respect congress, and congress is pro-Israël.
More, Biden is a politician who seeks reelection and he is in a catch22 as a part of his electorate is pro Israël, and part is pro Palestinian.
Last, don’t forget that many supporters of Trump are rabidly pro Israël, even if anti-Semitic. As they read the Bible, victory of Israël is the ante-penultimate event before the coming of the Christ.
Thats been shown to be fatal to the ukraine military time and time again as every counter offensive ends in more loss of territory and dead ukraine soldiers. Biden must end this and stop supplying the weapons that Ukraine is committing suicide with
I read that you don’t contest that, if Putin wins fully, he will destroy Ukraine as an independent state, and will go to the limit of genocide.
In fact Ukraine so called allies never have given Ukraine the weapons it needed, but just enough to survive.
Right now, Ukraine is lacking ammunitions.
I got no reason to agree with that. Thats just what you say.
“In fact Ukraine so called allies never have given Ukraine the weapons it needed,”
Air Defense
- One Patriot air defense battery and munitions;
- 12 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
- HAWK air defense systems and munitions;
- AIM-7, RIM-7, and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
- More than 2,000 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
- Avenger air defense systems;
- VAMPIRE counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems (c-UAS) and munitions;
- c-UAS gun trucks and ammunition;
- mobile c-UAS laser-guided rocket systems;
- Other c-UAS equipment;
- Anti-aircraft guns and ammunition;
- Air defense systems components;
- Equipment to integrate Western launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s systems;
- Equipment to support and sustain Ukraine’s existing air defense capabilities;
- Equipment to protect critical national infrastructure; and
- 21 air surveillance radars.
Fires
- 39 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems and ammunition;
- Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb launchers and guided rockets;
- 198 155mm Howitzers and more than 2,000,000 155mm artillery rounds;
- More than 7,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
- More than 40,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
- 72 105mm Howitzers and more than 800,000 105mm artillery rounds;
- 10,000 203mm artillery rounds;
- More than 200,000 152mm artillery rounds;
- Approximately 40,000 130mm artillery rounds;
- 40,000 122mm artillery rounds;
- 60,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
- 47 120mm mortar systems;
- 10 82mm mortar systems;
- 112 81mm mortar systems;
- 58 60mm mortar systems;
- More than 400,000 mortar rounds;
- More than 70 counter-artillery and counter-mortar radars; and
- 20 multi-mission radars;
Ground Maneuver
- 31 Abrams tanks;
- 45 T-72B tanks;
- 186 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
- Four Bradley Fire Support Team vehicles;
- 189 Stryker Armored Personnel Carriers;
- 300 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;
- 250 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles;
- More than 500 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs);
- More than 2,000 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
- More than 200 light tactical vehicles;
- 300 armored medical treatment vehicles;
- 80 trucks and 124 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
- More than 800 tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
- 131 tactical vehicles to recover equipment;
- 10 command post vehicles;
- 30 ammunition support vehicles;
- 18 armored bridging systems;
- Eight logistics support vehicles and equipment;
- 239 fuel tankers and 105 fuel trailers;
- 58 water trailers;
- Six armored utility trucks;
- 125mm, 120mm, and 105mm tank ammunition;
- More than 1,800,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition; and
- Mine clearing equipment.
Aircraft and Unmanned Aerial Systems
- 20 Mi-17 helicopters;
- Switchblade Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
- Phoenix Ghost UAS;
- CyberLux K8 UAS;
- Altius-600 UAS;
- Jump-20 UAS;
- Hornet UAS
- Puma UAS;
- Scan Eagle UAS;
- Penguin UAS;
- Two radars for UAS;
- High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
- Precision aerial munitions;
- More than 6,000 Zuni aircraft rockets;
- More than 20,000 Hydra-70 aircraft rockets; and
- Munitions for UAS.
Anti-armor and Small Arms
- More than 10,000 Javelin anti-armor systems;
- More than 90,000 other anti-armor systems and munitions;
- More than 9,000 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
- More than 35,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
- More than 400,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition and grenades;
- Laser-guided rocket systems and munitions;
- Rocket launchers and ammunition; and
- Anti-tank mines.
Maritime
- Two Harpoon coastal defense systems and anti-ship missiles;
- 62 coastal and riverine patrol boats;
- Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels; and
- Port and harbor security equipment.
Other capabilities
- M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
- C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
- Obstacle emplacement equipment;
- Counter air defense capability;
- More than 100,000 sets of body armor and helmets;
- Tactical secure communications systems and support equipment;
- Four satellite communications (SATCOM) antennas;
- SATCOM terminals and services;
- Electronic warfare (EW) and counter-EW equipment;
- Commercial satellite imagery services;
- Night vision devices, surveillance and thermal imagery systems, optics, and rangefinders;
- Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear;
- Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment;
- Medical supplies, including first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
- Field equipment, cold weather gear, generators, and spare parts; and
- Support for training, maintenance, and sustainment activities.
And thats just from the USA. What else is needed??
All that weaponry was used on Ukrainian soil. It should have been used to hit Russia directly. That war would have been over by now.
What other weaponry is needed?
And soldiers . Talk of collapse in western circles
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/06/ukraine-war-zelensky-options/
Sleboda: Zelensky’s Envy - US is Not Going to Leave Its Israeli Wife for Its Kiev Regime Mistress
Scott Ritter w/Danny Haiphong: It ain’t going so well for Ukrs
Russia making significant inroads into ukraine while ukrainian army falls away
Interesting commentary on debate on Ukraine with lots of hate figures
So the actual debate was Vaush v Dave Smith modded by Ryan Grim and Emily Jazhinksy and the debate is replayed and commented on by Ben Burgis and Branko Marcetic. So there’s a lot of dodgy people involved but it’s actually very interesting as you get a lot of argument and counterargument from many different points of view, from the original debate but also from the commentary from the replayers. I didn’t expect it to work but it’s very good.
Russia has agreed to ceasefire but with conditions to ensure the root cause of the war is addressed with 1000s of Ukrainian soldiers surrounded by russian soldiers in kursk region
Russia does not want a cease fire. Russia want to destroy as an independent state and Ukrainians as a people.
They should of taken the istanbul deal. Oh well. Now zel refuses to let his soldiers surrender in kursk which is a certain death sentence
Tell me why Russia and Ukraine got along so well before America got involved? Russia is attacking America not Ukraine. The electrical grid being attacked is paid for and maintained by America. We have been paying the electrical bills for Ukraine since 1992. The Donbass’s wanted out of Ukraine is the issue. Over the last two decades the US has given Russia the royal screwing in Ukraine.
Russian propaganda, to be polite.
The troubles began when an Ukrainian government elected to make a deal with EU bent under Putin pressure and wanted to substitute a deal with Russia.
It was the first revolution.
Ukraine is independent from Russia, and Putin cannot live with that.
When the referendum for independence took place, a majority of Donbass residents voted for independence, and by treaty, Ukraine gave up its atomic weapons, against a guaranty of its borders, given by USA and Russia.
Russian secret services paid some activists to create trouble in Donbass.
Russia has broken the treaty more than once.