The parties are at each others throats. Even the defense bill, that has passed without debate for years was contentious this year. Economic theories are the opposite. This deep state is very confused.
Again, who are these people?
Well, I can tell you who isn’t one of them:
I find this interpretation/analysis to be authentic.
For those who don’t know or remember:
" Wilkerson was responsible for the review of information from the Central Intelligence Agency used to prepare Powell for his February 2003 presentation to the United Nations Security Council. His failure to realize that the evidence was faulty has been attributed to the limited time (only one week) that he had to review the data. The subsequent developments led Wilkerson to become disillusioned: “Combine the detainee abuse issue with the ineptitude of post-invasion planning for Iraq, wrap both in this blanket of secretive decision-making…and you get the overall reason for my speaking out.”"
Now, really, anybody who reads carefully can see the moderators shoving their own words into my mouth here. That this is an acceptable tactic here, and that it applies so ubiquitously is cause to doubt. When I said that Bernie Sanders is captured, I did not mean to portray him as a member of the deep state. Obviously he has one arm twisted behind his back now… by the deep state. Can you see the difference? Can you taste it? The toxic aroma that I get off of the low grade replies and analysis here do not appeal to any who might think of a title like ‘Center For Inquiry’ as a righteous concept. No: this is more like a Prager cutout for the left.
FAFA
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Now, really, anybody who reads carefully can see the moderators shoving their own words into my mouth here. That this is an acceptable tactic here, and that it applies so ubiquitously is cause to doubt.
No, the moderators are trying to prevent you from using CFI as a propaganda board.
To show different perspectives in a discussion of politics is a privilege afforded by a democratic system. Discussions like this are not tolerated in a fascist state.
Your trying to stifle opposing views is a common practice in a fascist state. Think about that .
When I said that Bernie Sanders is captured, I did not mean to portray him as a member of the deep state.
Ah, so what did you mean to portray him?
Obviously he has one arm twisted behind his back now… by the deep state. Can you see the difference? Can you taste it?
Obviously, no one is twisting your arms behind your back . No mod has actually deleted any of your posts. Trust me, in a deep fascist state you would be in prison now “for speaking your mind”.
The mods only want to maintain a balanced discourse in this forum.
If all posts are one-sided to the exclusion of any other POV, it is tantamount to fascist propaganda, regardless who is in charge.
Yes, duh. In Deep State theory there are unelected conspirators who manipulate media and systems to install leaders. But I didn’t ask for the names of the installed. So, I’m clarifying. Who are the people, names, in the deep state?
I did not ask that question but I agree with you . I too am curious to get a “taste” of this deep state conspiracy to … do what exactly?
One again we have an empty attack from write4u.
Should I be grateful that the threat for censorship didn’t come up here due to my own nonexistent transgression?
The disconnect to reality: it will not last much longer.
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Yes, indeed. And that freedom is only afforded you in a country that respects freedom of speech, not in a NAZI country. But you do not get to decide what is a transgression. The forum rules as to what is free speech and what is propaganda are well-considered and fair.
So far no one has prevented you from posting, right? What are you complaining about? People replying to your “blogs”.
W4U has posted some counters to some of your more inflammatory posts and incessant complaints. That is also allowed in accordance with the rules, ok?
Another common conspiracy theory comment.
The variety of odd posts from you deserves some sort of award. If there is no transgression, then why would there be a threat of censorship? Gratefulness is up to you, but I’ve never heard of someone having a reaction of any kind to something that didn’t happen, in response to something they didn’t do.
New to this forum and conversation . I hate intros same with goodbyes.
From my point of view tim is discussing the US political class that protects the the two party system and the big business government rotating change of personnel between them to keep the pigs at the trough
“What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "
As a climate denier would say to the climate scientist after being told the reality of devastating climate change impacts to life on earth is coming
What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "
I agree there are rich and powerful people who use their money to make laws that benefit themselves. But that is done openly, and is traceable. Some of them own media companies too. Tim is talking about people with government jobs, insiders, subverting laws, and doing it secretly.
It is an interesting saying that you have. To mix love and fear into one thought…
Fear I suspect mostly goes beneath our conscious radar.
Some people, like Feinman, claim in their sciencey way to be immune to it.
Others claim that emotional intelligence lays beneath conscious rationality in our workings.
Scott Ritter is a military man. As a peace activist I don’t care to rely upon such analysis.
Still, this is quite a few shades better than chaining Nazis to a printing press.
Of course the need for the print has come to a new age where the ink is virtual.
It appears that this can be read around the world, and I could understand how the owners of an organization might be concerned; particularly about what is going on in the press room…
It’s a bit of a joke, really. But I assure you: Ritter is no joke. He has devoted his life in this conflict to this conflict. He obviously cares deeply. Once again, independent journalists rule the roost.
What a load of hogwash.
The latest case in point
What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "
Awesome. Well, welcome to the forum.
Here is a non exhaustive list of what we have been told by Western MSM about Russia since Feb 2022.
Propaganda or truth??
- The Russian MIC cannot manufacture semiconductors
- Putin is a Dictator
- Putin is Russia and “Russia is Putin”
- Russia / Putin is Isolated from the global community
- The Russian economy is insignificant and smaller than Italy/Texas/France/etc …
- The Soviet Union was an Empire and Russia is seeking to restore it’s imperialism
- Putin is a “Thug” and a “Murderer”
- Russia is starving the world by withdrawing from the grain deal
- Russia is running out of artillery/drones/tanks/men
- Russia is salvaging microchips from dishwashers
- Putin is dying from Alzheimers/Parkinsons/Cancer
- Putin eats brains cooked by Prigozine
- Prigozine was Putin’s Chef (literally)
- Russian army is demoralised and bordering on mutiny
- Putin’s inner circle is plotting a coup against him
- Russian army is incompetent and poorly trained
- Russian satellite coverage of the battlespace is poor
- Russian army has poor targeting precision
- Russia is deliberately targeting civilians
- Russia has been making extensive use of cluster munitions since the start of the SMO
- Ukraine has an artillery advantage over Russia (July/June 2023)
- NATO tactics are superior to Russian battlefield tactics
- Putin has a poor grasp of strategy
- The Sanctions Are Working
- The HIMARS Missile system will be a “game changer”
- American drones will be a “game changer”
- Byraktar will be a game-changer
- F16s will turn the tide of the battle in Ukraines favour
- X wonder weapon will “turn the tide against Russia” (I thought the tide was already in Ukraine’s favour from the start?)
- X general/commander has been fired/sacked/discipled
- X and Y generals have a personal rivalry that is affecting Russian battlefield performance
- The Russian army is dependent on decrepit Soviet-era equipment
- Drones will turn the tide in ukraine’s favour
- There’s nothing special about Ukraine’s neo-nazi problem since neo-nazism is a worldwide problem.
- There are no weapons bio-labs in Ukraine operated by the pentagon
- The weapons labs operated in Ukraine by the pentagon are not a threat to Russia
- Russia Attacked Ukraine Unprovoked
- NATO made no commitment (written or otherwise) to not advance on Russia’s borders
- The SMO has nothing to do with the NATO advancement in Eastern Europe
- The SMO has nothing to do with the 8-year killings of ethnic russians in donbas
- Cluster munitions are acceptable in Ukraine’s case since they’re in dire straits
- Russian tanks are inferior to American tanks
- Russian tanks are inferior to German tanks
- Russian tanks are inferior to French tanks
- The Russian army is the second most powerful one in the world
- Putin is a Crypto-Jew
- Ukraine cannot be a NAZI state because it’s president is Jewish
- [Counter-Narrative Character Assassination] Alexander Mercouris is a convicted criminal
- [Counter-Narrative Character Assassination] Scott Ritter is a paedophile
- “X” pro-russian commentator has never been right (non of his predictions has come true)
- “Y” pro-Russian commentateur is a convicted x,y,z (character assassinations)
- The sanctions are working!
- The Russian economy is in tatters!
- Putin is losing support
- The Ukrainian Counteroffensive (June/July/August 2023) is successful
- Russia is firing S300 missiles into Poland (over Ukrainian airspace)
- The Russo Ukraine war started in 2022
- The Russian Army is using Human Wave attacks
- The Russian Army is indiscriminately targeting civilians
- The Russian army is using cluster munitions since the start of the war
- Putin wants to expand the Russian empire into Europe (and beyond?)
- Ukrainian Grain is key to solving world hunger
- ‘International Law’ says x , y , z about the SMO
- NATO is a defensive organisation
- NATO has greater military power than Russia
- Putin is in league with the Russian Oligarchs and therefore targeting the Oligarchs harms Putin
What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "
Let’s not forget Russia blew up its own NordStream2 pipeline.
Russia bombed its own bridge too.
Really, the low grade propaganda that we are getting must be a sign.
So many inside the deep state will be so grateful when the thing finally collapses.
The same must be true of journalists wanting to practice real journalism.
Somehow it is our duty to attempt to deprogram those who have been fully programmed.
We all understand that we are engaged in an information war.
What they don’t seem to understand is that the lies are all on our side.
It is too late: we’ve already lost not just the war in Ukraine, but the information war as well.
The tau of the system leaves us in a nearly complete fiction… but for all the weaponry…
In Godzilla Wee Trust. FAFA.
Who is they that do tell all the lies? Is it us?
And who is they that do not tell any lies? Is it them?
No such thing. Establish facts.
That is exactly the process here. I have linked you to so many excellent sources of late who are willing to challenge the Western narrative; one provided by the deep state: the providers of Russiagate, which is a large pile of lies. All the analysis here clings together as a gigantic dungball on humanity. Thanks, Godzilla, for dumping on the world your toxic fecal matter. Hope you’re enjoying your sloppy joe’s over in Ukraine. Maybe send them some fresh blades if you need more ground meat. I hear they’re getting dulled on the bones.
Really, to be so lost as the West is representing itself as, while the majority of people see some way through the bluster; as to what comes next; I’ve heard some dark predictions. The idea that a third world war might be fought without the knowledge of the people could require such a priming as we see. While your government makes zombies out of you; and I mean this especially for the contractors and the hourlies in the tech zones where the bombs and gear are produced; where there is a welfare state for the wealthy that relies on meat grinders like Ukraine; it is a tough tail to eat when it is your own; her name is complicity…
If aliens came down to this planet; aliens of a just form; who install a global justice system in order that they could establish trust and develop the Earth to its best potential; I’m afraid half my country will be in chains. As for the reprogramming: certainly it will not involve a pledge of allegiance of nationality or race or religion. The term ‘human race’ will become a derogative and replaced with ‘human species’, which is in fact the case. Possibly an alotment for a small bit of propaganda to win over the population, such as:
“We are all out of Africa”
of just WaaooA, for short.
It’s hardly propaganda when it is the truth. Some seem to think that this sort of decorruption cannot occur. No doubt they are nationalists, religious, or outright racists. These exclusive belief systems must be left behind. They become available again in a scalar way as we work down to local cultures, but the integrated form leaves the ultimate identity as that of a human being; a citizen of a planet. One eight billionth of the human species.