I wonder if someone is - or already has - written a play about the Trump/Putin ‘partnership’ through a moralizing Shakespearian lens.
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It’s not the site, or the propaganda. A world leader doesn’t broadcast his plans. He’s not going to say the thing that would tell the whole world that they SHOULD be banding together to protect themselves. It would be the stupidest move he could do. His actions are stupid enough. And if you can’t figure out what his intentions are by those recent actions, well…
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Propaganda in the highly concentrated anglo american media world runs so deep within society that it produces people who would otherwise consider themselves to be intelligent free thinkers into voids claiming to know what is in a persons head because they have been programmed to accept what Power has decided has been said by that person
That’s half of your posts.
Thats all your posts on foreign policy
Can you back that up in any way? I really don’t know what you’re talking about.
Read what you said about Putin. This is what you were told regarding his thoughts desires wants plans or you have personal access to his thoughts?
Back up your statement on me.
I literally said it’s not possible to read his mind, but his actions say quite a bit. This is how anyone evaluates any world leader
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Whats actions support your claim that he wants to restore the USSR? Is that clear enough?
I said it was obvious. He invaded a country that the USSR formerly occupied. It’s history, what can I add to that?
The USSR was ukraine? Are you out of your brilliant mind?
Invading Ukraine? Is that clear enough?
Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic
Eventually, the Red Army ended up controlling much of the Ukrainian territory after the Polish-Soviet Peace of Riga. On 30 December 1922, along with the Russian, Byelorussian and Transcaucasian republics, the Ukrainian SSR became one of the founding members of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR).
Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic - Wikipedia
You see sunnyjim, The difference between NATO and Russia is that NATO is a voluntary treaty organization where Nations apply for membership, whereas Russia (Putin) is still trying to conquer nations by force.
Sweden just joined NATO and Ukraine will soon join NATO, that is when all the NATO members have “voted” affirmatively, instead of killing each other as Putin did as head of the KGB and still does but only as blatant criminal acts to eliminate his opposition.
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This is your educated answer ? You have blown my mind .
It is convenient to your narrative to leave the actions and the methods of the U.$. federal government out completely. Some of the actors who did the dastardly deeds decided they could not live with themselves until they came clean. So we have the testimonies of people like Phil Agee, John Stockwell, and Ray McGovern, to name a few. The next wave may be less impressive, because the possibility of running operations on a need to know basis leaves much of the coherency centralized. Technology as well must change the process considerably. The sheer quantity of cameras around now means the possibility of accountability is real. I do puzzle over indirection and those sorts of means. The level of corruption that we witness now seems so thick that the saturation must mean something as to what comes next.
The quality of the lies is so poor that to witness people I regarded as intelligent taking the side of these liars as if it is their duty without any letup in the conversation; the quantity of personal relations that I myself have experienced trouble with over this since roughly 2016, when we nearly elected a democratic socialist to power, and if you think the deep state didn’t shudder, well, something has to explain this bubble of lies that we are floating in. The soup is heating up. Can you feel it?
Testimony is not necessarily truth. I had a High School who was ex-CIA, that can’t be proven, but he had spent a lot of time in Russia as a “journalist”, so, anyway. He said his problem was that he gave information to our government and they didn’t act on it. He wasn’t more specific.
Agee is an actor, Stockwell is dead, and McGovern writes for RT. Those all give me reason for suspicion, but I’m not going to spend hours finding all their misinformation and explaining it to you. Nor would I name some people, like Paul Wellstone, and then say, “he was good, so our government is good”. That’s not an argument.
Why don’t you actually discuss something? Could it be that you’ve tried showing your facts, and had people poke holes in them, and question your logic?
It’s convenient to your narrative to leave the actions and the methods of the Russians completely out of it.
I wonder if you understand who’s been blowing up apartment blocks and hospitals and farm land and power stations, etc?
You must be talking about Trumpism. The scheme of a master con-man.
Your mistake is that you use the criminal actions of a few to condemn an entire democratically elected Constitutional Government while encouraging the actions of a few criminals to overthrow the democratically elected Government and replace Constitutional government with Dictatorship.
Be careful what you wish for.
Hi Timb
Great call on Ray McGovern ex CIA. He has been wonderful in breaking down the western narrative in times of crisis and war.
Here he is with Robert Scheer with some hard truths on ukraine and pushing back on Robert’s faith in what he has been told about ukraine past and present by the msm.
McGovern dives deep into U.S.-Russia relations and presents parallels between tense moments in history such as the Cuban missile crisis and what’s happening in Ukraine now. John F. Kennedy imposes an illegal blockade on Cuba following the USSR’s missile placement just miles off Florida’s shores, a historically justified action. When looking at Putin’s similar acts, McGovern asks, "Did you know about the U.S. promise from 30th December 2021 not to put offensive strike missiles in Ukraine? I dare say very few know. Why? Because it wasn’t in The New York Times.
I’m a half hour in. So far, lots of history, putin only mentioned. They both seem pretty progressive Left. When does the Ukraine stuff start?
Who was this democratic socialist we nearly elected? And if we had, how is that so bad? I certainly don’t have a problem with democratic socialism. It’s certainly better than the dictatorship of the dotard et al.
What or who is the deep state? You never did define that.
You mean all the lies the dotard et al have told, especially and including the ones that killed 500,000 unnecessary deaths from COVID-19?
Are you talking about Climate Change? That is getting worse, isn’t it. Ice caps are melting at an accelerated rate, etc etc.