War Drums in the Ukraine

And further more

Here the reveal

and two plus two equals whatever ottozuts wants it to.

The war in Ukraine has put more scrutiny on Vladimir Putin’s long and brutal record of jailing his opposition, killings, and other atrocities, including a new arrest of a figure who has opposed Putin’s leadership and, specifically, the war in Ukraine. In this special report, MSNBC’s Ari Melber traces Putin’s record as a brutal dictator, detailing Putin’s censorship; crackdown; and a series of attacks, assassinations, and poisonings – drawing on reporting, archival footage, and Melber’s interview with a former Russian billionaire who was bankrupted, indicted, jailed and exiled by Putin. The report also explores living figures who could pose a challenge to Putin, and how the courage of so many dissident Russians might inspire a stronger response to Putin abroad.

This story is a bit older, from this past April but it popped and it’s worth a little refresher. I appreciate America is far from perfect and getting worst thanks to our own citizens faithlessness in their form of government and their disregard for the responsibilities that citizens of a Democracy possess.

You know things like democracy - use it or lose it!

A healthy democracy requires an informed electorate!

The war in Ukraine has put more scrutiny on Vladimir Putin’s long and brutal record of jailing his opposition, killings, and other atrocities, including a new arrest of a figure who has opposed Putin’s leadership and, specifically, the war in Ukraine. In this special report, MSNBC’s Ari Melber traces Putin’s record as a brutal dictator, detailing Putin’s censorship; crackdown; and a series of attacks, assassinations, and poisonings – drawing on reporting, archival footage, and Melber’s interview with a former Russian billionaire who was bankrupted, indicted, jailed and exiled by Putin. The report also explores living figures who could pose a challenge to Putin, and how the courage of so many dissident Russians might inspire a stronger response to Putin abroad.

Obviously, you don’t know what you’re talking about because you keep answering questions with a question. Did you ever think, even once, you are listening to propaganda?

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That is the objective of the collective west. Regime change in Russia rather than the well being of ukrainians .

Focus on what what is actually occurring at the cold face to cut through the Western and Russian propaganda.

Brian’s analysis below is indispensable. I expect he doesn’t miss much

Berletic: Ukraine Seeks F16s, Patriot Missiles & Leopard Tanks - Russian Ops in Ukraine Sept 18 2022

  • Ukrainian offensives in Kherson and Kharkov have both ground to a halt;

  • Near Kherson, a Russian strike on a dam up-river of the Ingulets has flooded
    crossings, isolating Ukrainian bridgeheads east of the river;

  • Ukrainian forces have been fighting for days attempting to take eastern
    Kopiansk with no success as Russian reinforcements arrive;

  • Potential Ukrainian offensives elsewhere are still a possibility;

  • Winter fighting may see Russian military aviation given the advantage as
    Ukrainian forces’ ability to hide in forests diminishes;

  • The US is sending fewer and fewer weapons and ammunition to Ukraine;

  • Future talk of sending advanced weapons from Patriots and F-16s, to Grey Eagle
    drones and Leopard main battle tanks ignore how impractical this aid would be;

Ukraine Seeks F16s, Patriot Missiles, & Leopard Tanks - Russian Ops in Ukraine Sept.18, 2022

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Focus on the propaganda is what you are doing and linking to mostly propaganda websites.

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Yeah, but the objectives of Ukraine is to keep the freedom they won for themselves since 1991!

Hear what Zelensky would tell Trump about Putin

Sep 11, 2022

Ukraine Russia: Zelenskyy makes surprise visit to liberated city after rapid Ukraine advances

Sep 14, 2022

Zelensky’s gives emotional speech to mark Ukraine’s independence day - in full

Aug 24, 2022

Looks impressive to me. This Kelenskyy guy has substance and class.

Brian doesn’t miss much…

He’s pretty shrewd and certainly doesn’t prevaricate:

On Leopard 2 tanks…

…eventually Russia’s going to get their hands on one, they’re going to tow it back to one of their famous tank museums…and there going to put it up next to a German Nazi Tiger or Panzer tank and then Germans get to contemplate that for a couple of generations…

Wow…

Just to be clear:

The Kremlin wants you to know there’s absolutely no panic in Russia a day after Vladimir Putin called up hundreds of thousands to go fight in Ukraine—just ignore the burning military recruitment offices, protests shutting down highways, and college students being snatched from their classes to go kill or be killed.

It’s also absolutely normal for protesters to be pulled from jail and sent to the front, and reports of men flocking to airports to get the hell out of the country are “fake,” according to Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson Dmitry Peskov.

“Information about some kind of fuss at airports is greatly exaggerated. There is a lot of fake information appearing about this,” Peskov was quoted saying by the Interfax news agency.

:wink:

Granted the Daily Beast likes to whoop it up for more clicks, but they’re not the only ones reporting this

Referendums are underway and partial mobilization of reservists has commenced. The west is in panic mode in how to respond as protest build throughtout europe on energy policies and supply

LOL, who is trying to conscript 300,000 new soldiers to die in a losing war in a foreign country and threatening nuclear war? That sounds to me like the desperate acts of a loser.

The west doesn’t have a single military boot on the ground and Russia better hopes it will never have to deal with that because it would be the end of Russia altogether.

How strange. Russia could have been a respected player in the world economy. Instead, it resorts to illegal “crimes against humanity” and “not winning”.

So who is in “panic mode”, fool.

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After 7 months of fighting this little country, Putin needs to replenish his failing army with the inexperienced reserves to continue his folly.

I suppose blanketing the countryside with your countryman’s bodies is one way to claim territories.

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Armed soldiers are going door-to-door in Ukraine to collect votes and threatening Ukrainians with the murder of their families if they fail to participate in so-called referendums that would see Russia annex occupied parts of the country, according to The Telegraph.

Gotta love Freedom and Democracy!

Most likely it will be aid workers showing there.

It’s not an honest election. An honest election doesn’t include the military knocking on doors and threatening people.

Referendums proceed after west tries to sabotage.

Berletic: Russia Mobilizes, Referendums Underway: What Will Change and Why?

Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for September 23, 2022:

  • Russia to mobilize 300,000 in addition to 150,000 already involved in
    operations in Ukraine;

  • Russian Ministry of Defense announces nearly 6,000 Russian dead, 61,000
    Ukrainian dead plus another 49,000 Ukrainians injured;

  • Russian MoD claims Ukraine has mobilized 300,000 itself, losing 100,000
    meaning it now faces some 450,000 Russian forces in the coming weeks and
    months;

  • Referendums in Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, and Lugansk to join the Russian
    Federation means future operations will significantly expand in intensity,
    quantity, and quality;

  • This major escalation follows two very expensive offensives launched by
    Ukraine in what appears to have been an “all or nothing” move;
    Russia Mobilizes, Referendums Underway: What Will Change and Why?

[quote=“ottozuts100, post:396, topic:7850”]
Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for September 23, 2022:

  • Russia to mobilize 300,000 in addition to 150,000 already involved in
    operations in Ukraine;

Yes, it can’t win with 150,000 troops

  • Russian Ministry of Defense announces nearly 6,000 Russian dead, 61,000
    Ukrainian dead plus another 49,000 Ukrainians injured;
  • Russian MoD claims Ukraine has mobilized 300,000 itself, losing 100,000
    meaning it now faces some 450,000 Russian forces in the coming weeks and
    months;

Yes, Russia always cites accurate numbers. They are the most transparent dictatorship in the world.

  • Referendums in Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, and Lugansk to join the Russian Federation means future operations will significantly expand in intensity, quantity, and quality;
  • This major escalation follows two very expensive offensives launched by
    Ukraine in what appears to have been an “all or nothing” move;

And who were these offensives launched against? Russia? That is the first I hear of that perspective from the Russian propaganda machine.

Yes, well we know differently don’t we Russia has been winning this stalemated expansionist war for 8 years now.

On 24 February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine in a major escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War, which began in 2014.

The invasion has likely resulted in tens of thousands of dead on both sides and caused Europe’s largest refugee crisis since World War II,[12][13] with around 7.4 million Ukrainians fleeing the country[14][15] and a third of the population displaced.[16][17] Russia experienced its greatest economic and political emigration since the 1917 October Revolution as Russians fled the Putin regime.[18] The war has also caused global food shortages.[19][20]

Following the 2014 Ukrainian Revolution, Russia invaded and annexed Crimea, and Russian-backed paramilitaries seized part of the Donbas region of south-eastern Ukraine, which consists of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts, sparking a regional war.[21][22] In March 2021, Russia began a large military build-up along its border with Ukraine, amassing up to 190,000 troops and their equipment.

Despite the build-up, denials of plans to invade or attack Ukraine were issued by various Russian government officials up to the day before the invasion.[26] In a televised address shortly before the invasion, Russian president Vladimir Putin espoused irredentist views,[27] challenged Ukraine’s right to statehood,[28][29] and falsely[30] claimed Ukraine was governed by neo-Nazis who persecuted the ethnic Russian minority.[31]

On 21 February 2022, Russia recognised the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Luhansk People’s Republic, two self-proclaimed breakaway quasi-states in the Donbas.[32] The next day, the Federation Council of Russia authorised the use of military force, and Russian troops promptly advanced into both territories.[33]

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So who is the “invader” of a sovereign country?

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More than 150,000 Russian citizens living in Donbass remote voted electronically in the Russian parliamentary elections held from 17 to 19 September 2021, which saw numerous attempts at interference and provocations of all kinds.

https://www.donbass-insider.com/2021/09/21/more-than-150000-donbass-residents-voted-electronically-in-the-russian-parliamentary-elections/

So let them emigrate to Russia. Ukraine is not stopping anybody from leaving Ukraine.
It seems though that tens of thousands are prevented from fleeing Russia.
How’s that? Russia claiming that Russians have no rights, except to serve the state?

Russia is not a democracy, get that into your skull. There is no freedom in Russia.
Russia is an Oligarchy, a modern version of slavery.
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DPR and LPR plus Kherson and Zaporozhye vote on their referendums. Irretrievable fact: by the end of next week Russia most certainly will be on the way to add over 100,000 km2 and over 5 million people to the Federation.

No that’s not how it works. Hundreds of thousands people are emigrating to the US from Mexico and So.America. They don’t declare that they are taking half their country with them.

And to think the collective West have legitimised these referendums with what they did in Kosovo.

Do you hear them laughing in Belgrade??