Trump Will Be Blamed For This

Yeah, like we have so many options.

Lets be clear if you stormed the Capital Jan 6, you are not an innocent person!

Well that destroys your case that all that is needed is a well informed public

Oh don’t you have a smug response to everything.

A well informed and engaged public would have created more options, such as not allowing the traitorous con artist and sexual predator trump to steal all the air from the room.

A well informed and engaged public would have demanded that the balance of power governance model would have prevailed, but we were (by and large) all too hungry and greedy in our own minds and didn’t mind voting in utter deceivers and were content with the machinery of our government getting all gummed up by billionaire power. and so on and so forth

Then we wind up with a world of ignorant nihilists gushing with cynicism for everything. What a dark future we have if your kind of crazy-making is the best we can hope for.

What about doing the best you can with what you have?
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The opposite of the of dynamic of populism. Instead of an uninformed public turning to someone who says they are the only one who can fix the problems, we would have an informed public generating solutions, implementing them locally, and competing in a marketplace of ideas.

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What does that mean? Balance of power between who?
"well informed and engaged public would have created more options,’

It not like you dont have options now. How do you propose change when its the DNC that selects the nominee and tells you that this is the person you will vote for. The democrats can ignore you (the informed and engaged voter) as much they want knowing that you will vote for them no matter what. Youre the example.

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What is one solution you see that has the potential to change the current political electoral system ?

Just one of many

This is the one you chose to help generate more options

I said one of many. I was looking for a story on one of the states that has gone with bipartisan districting committees or the ones who will base their ballots on the national popular vote. I don’t see why I should make the effort to google for you.

I dont see how we go from that to having more options when we are voting.

Ah. I thought you meant the electoral college specifically. Which is still a solution for the whole system. Less manipulating small districts, more one person one vote.

Getting money out of politics. Overturn Citizens United.

Better access to voting.

I’m sure there’s more

Did you ever take a civics class?

Branches of Government

The American system of government is established by the United States Constitution, which provides for three separate but equal branches of government–legislative, executive, and judicial. Together, these branches make, execute, and interpret the laws that govern our country. Because each branch has both individual and shared powers, no one branch has more authority than the other two, and each is accountable to the others. This “checks and balances” system means that the balance of power in our government remains steady.


How about the principle of American Pluralism, have you ever heard about that one?

Pluraism

Pluralism is the theory that a multitude of groups, not the people as a whole, govern the United States. These organizations, which include among others unions, trade and professional associations, environmentalists, civil rights activists, business and financial lobbies, and formal and informal coalitions of like-minded citizens, influence the making and administration of laws and policy. Since the participants in this process constitute only a tiny fraction of the populace, the public acts mainly as bystanders. . . .

i.e. Democracy… :hugs:

I dont get it. How does get us to more options?

By not allowing the wing nuts to gain the power they have gained these days.

Most of today’s biggest problems are self-created,
nip it in the bud and all that.

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How to get back to that, is a whole different problem.
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But that doesnt give you more options

Let’s try 5th grade level. If the system encourages people to speak, to participate locally, and is not based on how much money you and your buddies have, then better candidates can work their way up, based on merit. If voters are good at picking the best policies, then they will pick the candidates that advocate for those policies.

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It would have ensured we had higher caliber of people representing us, and by extension in positions of power throughout the system - A world where for the good of the people still meant something. Not that it would cure self serving tendencies, but it would sure tamp it down.

Today the crooks have become the heroes, that’s crazy dadadaadadad.

That is an odd take as no one who participated in January 6 is innocent. Whether we like how the system works or not, they broke the law and that’s why they’re being prosecuted.

Whats the entailment for more options at the ballot box with this
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And this ?

multitude of groups, not the people as a whole, govern the United States. These organizations, which include among others unions, trade and professional associations, environmentalists, civil rights activists, business and financial lobbies, and formal and informal coalitions of like-minded citizens,

What happens if business and financial lobbies are in direct conflict with unions and environmentalists position policies?