Listening now. They are both awful and pathetic. Cannot listen anymore
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I googled what I suggested you should. In the top article, the following people said that Colin Powell, a general in the army, lied to them
CA Rep. Jane Harman
Nat’l security analyst Joseph Cirincione
Allen Hunley, a dentist
Colin Powell himself admitted later it was a disaster of a speech
Many more, according to the article, and if you researched it yourself, you would see, but I don’t have to because I remember it.
From the article,
“Journalists and members of Congress started digging into the rationale for war laid out in Powell’s U.N. speech. They discovered faulty and exaggerated reports from an intelligence community under political pressure from top White House officials.”
Also, “To this day, the Iraq War is widely viewed as a foreign policy and humanitarian disaster. “
It’s a pain moderating this forum. The weirdest trolls are the ones like you, who believe that everyone here needs to learn something from them. It doesn’t matter what we say, or agree with, or say that we know, they keep telling us that we are blind or sheeple, or uninformed, or that we support the killing of innocent people or all sorts of garbage. I don’t know where y’all get it, but it ain’t from reading our words. You’re not wrong for being against empires and hegemony, you’re wrong for picking a fight for no reason.
Where do you get your information? Why do you think Trump is saying something that no one else ever said? Who told you that?
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Thanks for the heads up.
I’m not picking a fight. All i said is that sometimes Trump says the truth with the added point being these truisms for other republican and democratic leaders have not and would not be said.
Some people cant even accept that
That’s the funniest thing you’ve said here.
You sure aren’t seeking an intelligent discussion. Your own words make that clear.
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Them fighting words . Not going there
Corporate media saying trump was terrible but biden was a disaster. They are saying Democrats are in a panic after Biden’s performance.
I showed you that they have and could.
What can’t you accept about that?
I accept what trump said in that quote is true.
I never said that he doesn’t ever say something true. That would be a ridiculous statement that could easily be proven false. Your claim is that others did not say it. Have you changed your claim now?
Can you accept that when people say, “Trump lies all the time”, it’s hyperbole? A rhetorical device. An exaggeration to make a point?
Any good propaganda campaign requires some truth. It’s usually something about speaking to people’s pain, their real-life problems. Truth might be that the solution is difficult and requires change or sacrifice. Propaganda is often something like, “only I can fix it”, or, “we need to destroy those ‘others’ to help you.”
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Yes other leaders - clinton, obama, kerry, biden , Romney and McCain. And not just did not . Would never let this truth pass their lips . Trump cant help himself sometimes to spill the beans
I watched the debate last night. We have a habitual liar/a felon/Wasichu on one side who doesn’t answer the questions asked and on the other side an adorable, caring Grandpa/Father, who keeps repeating himself. I had to ask myself, “Is this the best the U.S. has to offer voters? How did we get to this?” Then Kamala speaks and she’s a good speaker, wonderful woman, good role model and I think, we’re not only voting on two old men, one the oldest in history, but we’re voting for the VP. That VP has a high probability to be the next president. I would love for Kamala to be president- the first woman president, the first woman of colour president, as well as a person my age to be president- but I don’t want anyone to get a presidency at the demise of another, even though there is a high probability. That would be a painful way to get it, but that’s what we’re looking at right now and the choices are not great (Biden is OK, just not great) and even nightmarish in the case of that deplorable creature, who’s name won’t be said. So, what happened to the U.S. that this is the best we have?
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The media are calling it an unmitigated disaster for Biden. The progressives warned this would happen.
Not all media, but the media is saying it wasn’t a good debate for Biden or the dotard.
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Democrats like Obama were on the phone in panic during the debate according to Joy Reid
Look how many false statements the dotard made in comparison to President Biden. The dotard lied more often than not. President Biden was mostly truthful.
That said, I did say we are actually voting for the VP, not president. Sadly, we have to vote for the better VP in this election.
It just show what a circus/theatre the whole political stage is in the US. Biden is like this all the time, and probably much worse in private, but the way it’s all managed means there is limited exposure of it; he’s only presented to the public in very small, closely managed, edited, doses. That left them able to claim that anyone bringing up his mental capablity has been condemned as being unfair or a smear artist.
Now they are ALL screaming WTF IS THIS? Too late now. Whoever they bring in has four months to campaign? No chance.
A friend said, “read the transcript”, look for the facts, compare the arguments. Biden won if you look at it that way.
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Thats not the conversation amongst democrat commentators on cnn, msnbc, abc, cbs, NYT, WP
That debate was nauseating. Trump lies but Biden presents as the walking dead. He is not going to make it and the Dems are now looking at Harris to lead