Trump and Israel

From my personal perspective and lest I am misunderstood.
I hate war and any kind of violence. I urge that all disputes be settled peacefully.

But there is an overriding law of nature. Those who survive to have offspring will inherit the earth. Human genocide by humans is the lowest form of survival.

And yet you suggest destroying all of a certain group of people. You can’t take a side then say you are the side of peace.

Israel. You say Israel is justified in bombing and invading Gaza because of international law and a world that won’t enforce that law. But Israel was breaking the law and you say Gaza should have used those courts and the world justice system. But you say the justice system isn’t working. You have to apply your logic evenly, or it’s not logic.

And your logic solves the problem of Hamas’ terrorist attacks that kill thousands of Israelis and their American guests?

By logical laws of cause and effect, it is Hamas that carries the responsibility to stop their terrorist practises. I don’t see any Israelis hacking off the heads of Palestinian children. That is what Hamas does with Israeli children.

You may want to revisit your logic. Israel is under an existential threat!
If they don’t fight, they die! All of them and Islamists will be dancing in the streets. Think about it.

Why does Iran sponsor terrorist attacks on Israel?

Iranian leaders have been among the sharpest critics of Israel’s military operation in the Gaza Strip. Tehran has made no secret of its praise for those who attack Israelis, including the Hamas-led attack that Israel says killed 1,200 people on Oct. 7.

Israel compiled a video showing Hamas gunmen killing civilians, including babies, and burning corpses. Human Rights Watch [verified]

(Israel/Palestine: Videos of Hamas-Led Attacks Verified | Human Rights Watch) some of the videos of the attack, and called on the International Criminal Court to investigate the attacks as war crimes.

[https://palestinecampaign.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/PSC-Disappearing-Palestine-Maps-2008.jpg]

Not the first time these maps are shown.

From the beginning, Israël wanted the whole territory.

You cant reproach Palestinians to fight back. If you cage people, deprive them of hope, mistreat them, you make them mad.

And that does justify the crimes committed on the 7th of October 2023.

And neither the crimes committed by Israeli

Israel people and Palestinians are human beings.

[Palestinian casualties of war - Wikipedia]

[Israel's Occupation: 50 Years of Dispossession - Amnesty International]

Jewish people are right when they don’t want to be the subjects of another genocide.

Is it a reason to dispossess Palestinians of their lands and kill them ?

Is Israel dispossessing Palestinians or is it individual settlers who are taking their homes and land.

We do know that Israel’s neighboring countries were and are opposed to Israel’s very existence and have started every war, but to the victor belong the spoils.

Imagine what would have happened if Israel had lost any of these wars?
Would Israel exist today?

  1. the individual settlers are acting because the Israel state lets them act, killing Palestinians included.

  2. Most of the neighbouring states of Israel have accepted the existence of this state, and have normalized their relationship with it.

Some treaties were on the verge of being concluded just before the 7th of October 2024.

I agree with you. Israels only option is to implement the final solution

That’s means genocide !!!

Israel could offer a true peace…

I remember a saying :

" If the unjust oppresses the just, i am on the side of the oppressed.
If the unjust oppresses the unjust, i am on the side of the oppressed.
If the just oppresses the just, i am on the side of the oppressed.
and if the just oppresses the unjust, i am on the side of the oppressed."

“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.”
― Desmond Tutu (Foreword)

Until they get respect and guarantees of peace, I would hope. In the mean time, Hamas fired another round of rockets.

Three Israeli Soldiers Killed in Rocket Attack Claimed by Hamas

The Israeli military said that about 14 rockets and mortars were fired toward Kerem Shalom, a conduit for aid into Gaza. Three other soldiers were badly wounded.

So who wants peace? Apparently not Hamas. Seems they want to die and go to muslim heaven.

Israel hasn’t solved anything. And they are killing children. Where’s the logic in that?

Not only that, but if the dotard gets in office again, he’ll only make things worse in both Israel/Palestine and in the Ukraine. Russia and the Middle East might set a Nuke off.

Yes genocide. Whatever it takes. It is israel right and it must be so because the US government is not stopping us. Israel understands biden needs to pretend that he us angry for his domestic audience. But he is letting israel do whatever she wants. Same would be for trump

Honestly, i cannot imagine someone who presents himself as a Jew promote a genocide, referring to a " final solution ", this words being the words used by the nazis about the Jews.

And after that this same person reproaches USA to let Israel act a genocide.
I think that there is a contradiction.

My question is : is not mytwocentsworth a Russian troll or something like that.

It is the first time, or almost, on this forum i personally doubt some one. But i ma deeply choked.

I am thankful for US support in israels war against hamas . Rafah crossing has now been seized and everything is going according to plan

Years ago, pre-facebook, but after the Berlin wall came down, I saw a major network interviewing Jews and Palestinians. One nice, middle age, mother from Israel made a strong statement about building a wall and how eventually all Palestinians had to be eliminated.

But ya, could be a troll.

I will refer to my jewish community about this site and let them know this is how supporters of israel are treated

The plan is to starve children and pregnant women, if they don’t die from the bombings first?

I would appreciate it if you spoke with your community. If everyone you know agrees with you, then you are in a bubble. Fortunately, it is a minority that is suggesting complete annihilation, and very few people would use the term “final solution”.

That is associated with cronyism and despotism. I don’t see you supporting that in any other discussion. It is the opposite of merit and reasonableness in affairs of politics.

Spoils system - Wikipedia

Slightly off topic but still relevant

Biden says US will not provide Israel with weapons to use in major Rafah invasion (msn.com)

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