Particularly in the face of a bunch of self-certain faith-blinded arrogant fools who think everyone else suck and they are god’s gift to humanity.
Shear insanity that has been humored for too long. Although, guess now it’s too late in any event.
I was just making a more general point about white guys like you and me not being able to say anything positive about white guys like you and me without being branded racist by knee-jerk liberals.Well the problem is we've been in charge of the world for an awful long time and we sure have screwed it up tremendously and no-whities seems capable of admitting to our many mistakes. Just like this crap about Trump and his rabid tribe calling Obama and Clinton founders of ISIS - the brain-lazy louts never once reflect on the Cheney/Bush war of adventure and profit that created this unstoppable nightmare. No matter which American is in the White House we still act like pompous idiots obvious to other's human dignity and rights - and we blame them for being pissed off. This nightmare was hundred precent predictable and we went ahead anyway with most the country waving their flags. And I won't even get into the way we've treated our biosphere. Excuuuuzzze me for my negativity.I checked out your profile links and put the pieces together, gotta say it makes sense you are the son of a nazi, you must carry a lot of guilt. That's why you are messed up, besides your drug use. Let me tell you that you will never atone for your fathers actions, so give it up.
I checked out your profile links and put the pieces together, gotta say it makes sense you are the son of a nazi, you must carry a lot of guilt. That's why you are messed up, besides your drug use. Let me tell you that you will never atone for your fathers actions, so give it up.Oh yeah your colors come through loud and clear Too much projection buddy! All suspicious aside. With that stunt it's clearer than ever who sounds like the NAZI sympathizer around here. Kind of like all gay-bashers are struggling and compensating for their own homosexual impulses. A balanced heterosexual has no fear of gay, it's a non-issue for us. But I digress Folks, catch 3rd...'s Give here? Notice the typical desperation to drag the discussion away from the topic and into a cesspool of mudslinging. It's so much easier than actually trying to discuss a real issue, attack your opponent, ignore the substance of the discussion. So pathetic and so disgusting but so typical of how the neo-republican deals with all situations, adversaries and such. fyi: http://citizenschallenge.blogspot.com/2016/05/considering-character-references.html http://citizenschallenge.blogspot.com/2014/09/blog-post.html :coolsmirk: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But, you know waking up to something like that does get the mind to wonder. So I'm going to use 3rd...'s perry, to do a little fencing of my own. In may ways it's exactly that mentality in action that has lead to these decades of contrived wars, each only making our collective lives a bit uglier and diminished. But on we produce weapons of mass destruction and pass them out fast as possible. Too busy contriving reasons to attack their adversary, to have any time or interest in learning about the true objective reality. In fact their entire game is dependent on distorting reality and confusing the public and leaders. You know in 1974 I visited Washington DC as a bright eyed young man. Walked right up those Capital hill stairs, waved at the guard at his desk, perhaps there was a sign book, and then wandered all around that magnificent capital building while trying to absorb the reality of the place and what goes on there. Got to step into the balcony viewing area and watch the few Senators who were there debating some bill. That was a great America. I've visited a couple times since 9/11, so sad, now it's more a paranoid military encampment. It's been quite a while since my last visit but I'll never forget the feeling of seeing that chain-link fence wrapped around the capital building. How far we have fallen. And we brought all this about, through our own blind greed and disregard for others and this planet we depend on. just like the disregard 3rd... want's to demonstrate for me. 3rd... wants to pretend that I'm some stoned out guilt riddled idiot, even though I'm the one who's clearly writing coherent critiques and ready to take on challenges while remaining focused on the issue much as possible and trying to learn about the issue. (Rather than spending my energy figuring out how to malign my opponent) But then I'm into learning and sharing. 3rd... appears into the dark side. I've watch a half century of one self-contrived conflict after conflict/wars. All obviously guaranteed to create more problems than ever solved. I mean get real, you don't invade another man's home, destroy what he's built up and not expect self-righteous blowback. A constructive dialogue is where you are expected to do a little listening, a little mulling over what others and you have shared, a little constructive talking/writing in response. But, the new Republican is all about absolutism and ignoring what they don't like. Ugly days a coming. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As for guilt I carry, it is true my father put a heavy burden on us. He was a musical prodigy and leader of the band, and not one child of his can play any music to save our lives. We did compensate by all developing a deep love for music, so the pain has been bearable. Thanks for your concern.
Excellent response, CC. Good job of not stooping to 3rd’s level. Instead of discussing issues he’s resorting to ad hominem attacks and straw man arguments, as well as potentially libelous accusations. I reported his post to the mods.
I checked out your profile links and put the pieces together, gotta say it makes sense you are the son of a nazi, you must carry a lot of guilt. That's why you are messed up, besides your drug use. Let me tell you that you will never atone for your fathers actions, so give it up.3rdside please refrain from personal insinuations and attacks, as they are against the rules. Continued rule violation can lead to banning. Thanks.
Excellent response, CC. Good job of not stooping to 3rd's level. Instead of discussing issues he's resorting to ad hominem attacks and straw man arguments, as well as potentially libelous accusations. I reported his post to the mods.Thanks Darron, it comes from a decade of confronting these jokers and learning all sorts of interesting things about their mind-set in the process. Truth be told I don't mind 3rd...'s blowout, don't bother me since it offered me another good example to share: Behold The Republican Mind Game in action. Doing my little part to help students and potential activists understand and anticipate the trash that will be tossed at them as soon as they take a stand and confront ignorance. I'll share my link once it's up.
DarronS - Then why are you blathering on about being pro-white?Because I am also pro black, and pro brown, and pro yellow, and pro women, and pro men.
LoisL - to be “pro white" means you are anti anyone who does not fit the “white" description.I am anti that. I am anti the notion that if I am pro white that means I am "anti anyone who does not fit the “white" description" That is regressive left SJW horse pucky and I will stomp on it every time I see it.
Anyone who knows anything about 20th Century world history is familiar with Nazi beliefsSo, pro-black is ok for a black person to be. Pro-women is ok for a woman to be. Pro-gay is ok for a gay person to be. But Pro-White is a Nazi belief!!! You self hating racist fool. Typical SJW regressive leftard.
Women consist of half of the human race - representing every racial and ethnic group that exists on this planet. Yet in your mind youz scared-white-guys apportion the female sex an equal status, as said tribe of put-out white guys. Amazing shock White guys, Oh Great Kemosabe, how times have change and you can’t handle it. The explorers and conquerors, the enslavers and imperialists, with dripping contempt for all but their own. Now you’ve getting shoved down here with the rest of humanity, ain’t it disgusting. To think, they are all expecting you to treat them with a sense of equality blank stare and youz are crying like a bunch of babies . . . . . . .WTF? Oh, right, I get it now, I am a conqueror, an enslaver, and I am dripping with contempt for all by my own white males... Yes sir, yes sir three bags full. Please sir may I have another? Mea culpa, mea culpa, I feel so ashamed!!!
All I said was that if you are philosophically for something you must be against those who are philosophically against it. LoisNope, you said
to be “pro white" means you are anti anyone who does not fit the “white" description.I am pro white. I am not anti those who do not fit the white description. I am also pro black, pro brown, pro red, and pro yellow. I am pro white, and I do not give a flying f*** if anybody thinks that equates to National Socialism, KKK, or anything else. Go f*** yourselves if you do not like the fact that I am pro white.
DarronS - Did neither of you pay attention to Trump’s candidacy announcement when he said Mexico is sending rapists and thieves to the United States, but added “some of them may be good people"? Trump isn’t mentioning anything being “for white men," he is denigrating ethnic and religious minorities with a very broad brush. As for the chairman of the American Nazi Party, see my comment above about 20th Century world history. Ignore that at all our peril.So? Trump is an ass. So? I am pro white. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
CC - I am sick of the victimized-white-guy routine.I am sick of the perpetrator-white-guy routine. I am not Shia so count me out of your self flagellation
DarronS - Interjecting rational-thinking people into this discussion is a red herring. I know you didn’t start it, but what you said reinforces Stardusty’s useless digression.Injecting rational thinking people is my digression. Again, WTF? Oh, I am so very truly sorry for injecting rationality into the discussion. BTW, I am pro white. Don't like that? TS.
Stardust, the topic of this thread is the chairman of the American Nazi Party. I’ve said this several times but obviously you have ignored those statements. You being pro-white is leagues different than a Nazi saying he is pro-white. Nazis are racists murderers. Try to keep that in mind when commenting in this thread.
No what the fuk about it - Doesn't matter one bit if you are ashamed about it or proud about it, it's historical facts. And many of our biggest problems draw a direct line to the arrogance and disregard displayed back then, and the astoundingly stupid decision that arrogance and disregard for other's interests have lead to repeatedly. Ignoring it is just as idiotic and dishonest as ignoring the fact of the Cheney/Bush war of adventure and profit that was predictably like tossing jet fuel on a small simmering fire. - all in order to justify bashing Obama and Clinton in their little sealed off minds. But it's all forgotten, and everything is the Democrats fault . . .Women consist of half of the human race - representing every racial and ethnic group that exists on this planet. Yet in your mind youz scared-white-guys apportion the female sex an equal status, as said tribe of put-out white guys. Amazing shock White guys, Oh Great Kemosabe, how times have change and you can’t handle it. The explorers and conquerors, the enslavers and imperialists, with dripping contempt for all but their own. Now you’ve getting shoved down here with the rest of humanity, ain’t it disgusting. To think, they are all expecting you to treat them with a sense of equality blank stare and youz are crying like a bunch of babies . . . . . . .WTF? Oh, right, I get it now, I am a conqueror, an enslaver, and I am dripping with contempt for all by my own white males... Yes sir, yes sir three bags full. Please sir may I have another? Mea culpa, mea culpa, I feel so ashamed!!!
And I am sick of seeing our problems constantly increase and morph into yet worse problems, because of our deliberate and willful ignorance towards understanding the roots of the deep resentment towards the USA that's infusing the world around us. White man chest thumping isn't going to help one bit.CC - I am sick of the victimized-white-guy routine.I am sick of the perpetrator-white-guy routine. I am not Shia so count me out of your self flagellation
I am pro liberal politics,
–That means I am anti conservative politics
I am pro intelligent candidates for president who know how to campaign without bing insulting and engaging in rude, disgusting attacks
–That means I am anti all who cannot or will not do that. It means I am anti Trump
I am pro people who display intelligence, emotional stability and social skills
–That means I am anti those who do not display those qualities, including some on this blog.
–It also means I am anti Donald Trump and all Trump supporters.
I am pro equal treatment of all races, sexes, sexual orientation, ethnicity and economic status.
–that means I am anti those who do not hold the same positiona, including Donald Trump, his supporters and most Republicans.
I’ll may add more of more, later. Others might try a few of your own.
I am pro liberal politics, --That means I am anti conservative politics I am pro intelligent candidates for president who know how to campaign without bing insulting and engaging in rude, disgusting attacks --That means I am anti all who cannot or will not do that. It means I am anti Trump I am pro people who display intelligence, emotional stability and social skills --That means I am anti those who do not display those qualities, including some on this blog. --It also means I am anti Donald Trump and all Trump supporters. I am pro equal treatment of all races, sexes, sexual orientation, ethnicity and economic status. --that means I am anti those who do not hold the same positiona, including Donald Trump, his supporters and most Republicans. I'll may add more of more, later. Others might try a few of your own.Perfect resume to land a job at the IRS. :-)
CC - it’s historical facts.There is plenty of history to go around. The Mongols and the Japanese have had their moments. Mesoamericans did some off the charts things to each other, and on and on. I don't live in history and I do not feel guilty about history and I am not scared to be pro white today in 2016 and I am sick of the perpetrator-white-guy-routine.
CC - White man chest thumping isn’t going to help one bitYes it is, it will help dispel this white liberal guilt SJW scapegoating of white men. Black people are bad because white men are bad. Brown people are bad because white men are bad. Women are bad because white men are bad. White men are bad because white men are bad. My response Say it loud, I'm white and I'm proud!
I am pro liberal politics, —That means I am anti conservative politics I am pro intelligent candidates for president who know how to campaign without bing insulting and engaging in rude, disgusting attacks —That means I am anti all who cannot or will not do that. It means I am anti Trump I am pro people who display intelligence, emotional stability and social skills —That means I am anti those who do not display those qualities, including some on this blog. —It also means I am anti Donald Trump and all Trump supporters. I am pro equal treatment of all races, sexes, sexual orientation, ethnicity and economic status. —that means I am anti those who do not hold the same positiona, including Donald Trump, his supporters and most Republicans. I’ll may add more of more, later. Others might try a few of your own. [ Edited: 14 August 2016 11:36 AM by LoisL ]Thus your confusion laid bare. White is not a political opinion. White is not a set of behavioral traits. White is not a set of laws or regulations. White is an accident of birth. White is something we have no control over. White is something I did not ask to be. White is something I could not stop being even if I wanted to. I am pro woman. I am pro gay. I am pro black. I am pro brown. I am pro red. I am pro yellow. I am pro American. I am pro Scotsman. I am pro white heterosexual male. One can say that a person who claims to hold ideology X yet expresses none of the tenets of ideology X is not a true ideology Xman. That's because an ideology is a choice, it is something we can change, it is something we be for or against. To be for ideology X is to be opposed to another ideology that opposes ideology X. To be for a race is not to be opposed to other races, rather, it is to be against the denigration of that race. I am pro white because I am against the denigration of white people, not because I favor the denigration of any other race.