The Dorr Brother Scams Exposed - denying physical reality in action

I wasn’t aware of these sorts of stupid angry people demonstrating (against sound medical advice and public policy - oh yeah, we appointed a vandal as our president, surprise, surprise) going on until yesterday - the depths of the crazy and malicious nasty continues to astound.

This is what passivity, intellectual and otherwise, in the face of belligerent bullying for ignorance, will buy us.

By Isaac Stanley-Becker and Tony Romm _ April 19, 2020

washingtonpost _ com/technology/2020/04/19/pro-gun-activists-using-facebook-groups-push-anti-quarantine-protests/

Then I found this, Tells you all about the Brothers Dorr (Aaron, Chris, Ben, and Matt). The frontline oligarch insurgents against recognizing physical reality, this time in the form of Medical Science and physical reality of the COVID-19 virus, which these people demand the right to belligerently deny, while fermenting social unrest and disrespect for duly appointed officials and experts. We The People must stand up against these sorts of totalitarian, self-obsessed, disconnected from physical reality, malicious juvenile delinquent villains. Yes it’s a mouthful, but look at the harm they are doing to the fabric of our society, why don’t we exert our right to demand a respect for expert learned advice (education and knowledge IS NOT A BAD THING!) and reacting to physical reality rather than emotional fanaticism based on financial gain of a few?


I know some are standing up:

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sorry about the quote think.

Back to the Washington Post article

"Nearly 70 percent of Republicans said they supported a national stay-at-home order, according to a recent Quinnipiac poll. Ninety-five percent of Democrats backed such a measure in the survey. Still, the Facebook groups have become digital hubs for the same sort of misinformation spouted in recent days at state capitol buildings —

On the ground, pro-Trump figures — including some who act as surrogates for his campaign — as well as groups affiliated with prominent conservative donors have helped organize and promote the demonstrations. Some of the most vehement protest activity, in Michigan, has been organized by the Michigan Conservative Coalition …

Jeanine Pirro, a Fox News host and avid Trump supporter, interviewed Maddock on her show Saturday, telling her, “Keep going. Thank you.” Tucker Carlson, another Fox host, featured Maddock last week. “Thank you for coming on tonight, and thank you for exercising your constitutionally protected rights as an American,” he told her. “Bless you.”


You’ll never hear a word about understanding what is actually happening out here in the real world from these intellectual and emotional juvenile delinquents, they couldn’t care less about any real world, or biosphere, or any kind of reality beyond their little cartoon convictions - it’s the scam and the profits and making liberals look like idiots that gets their rocks off.

Yet, they seem to keep winning the days. Guess it’s because so few care to speak up.

fear of . . .

Intellectual Confrontation -

Militancy for Truth and Honesty -

Declarations demanding Constructive Debates based on truthfully representing one’s own and others observations and fact -

demand that we learn from mistakes, rather than ignoring them.

That sort of American Apple Pie Moonshine. :wink:

You’ll never hear a word about understanding what is actually happening out here in the real world from these intellectual and emotional juvenile delinquents, they couldn’t care less about any real world, or biosphere, or any kind of reality beyond their little cartoon convictions – it’s the scam and the profits and making liberals look like idiots that gets their rocks off.
You have your values and they have theirs (see below). This is the moral matrix dividing America (said Johnathan Haidt).
"Dope stores? Open. Abortion clinics? Open. Churches? Shut down. Local businesses? Going broke!"
 

I recall in the summer of '68, there was quite a bit of civil unrest and violence in the streets.

I suspect that, this year, our better angels will take the last train for the coast, and that the forces of Thanatos and Ignorance, will be frustrated to the extent that their hostility and aggression will abound in this coming summer of 2020. And counter hostility and aggression by the frustrated proponents of truth and reason, will abound as well.

Maybe not. Maybe the “better angels” stuff about us evolving past violence is true. But I wouldn’t count on it, not this summer.

Is this an example of Johnathan Haidt’s profound insights:

“Dope stores? Open. Abortion clinics? Open. Churches? Shut down. Local businesses? Going broke!”
Are we supposed to be impressed?

When you are allowed to tailor both sides of your arguments to pander to your audience, the sky is the limit.

You have your values and they have theirs (see below).
The usual misquoting and misuse of quotes by Sree

Okay I’ll lay that at sree’s feet and give Haidt as Pass. :slight_smile:

Are we supposed to be impressed?

When you are allowed to tailor both sides of your arguments to pander to your audience, the sky is the limit.


Quite true, but some folks have a weakness for academic brilliance backed by convincing data.

Guys like Haidt are intellectual hustlers, TED talk salesmen selling clever ideas that they won’t buy themselves, peddlers in a middle-eastern market place hawking magic lamps and Persian carpets that they know are fakes. Even the lamp without the genie can be used to light up the place. What can you do with a fancy idea? Stepping out of the moral matrix. Slick marketing chant for suckers.

... some folks have a weakness for academic brilliance backed by convincing data.
 

Oh. Oh! Oh! I do! I do!

Academic brilliance backed by convincing data. That sounds better, for some reason, than just pretending what you want to be true, is true.

Man. Am I being duped by the brilliant people with convincing data? Why oh why did I not go for that degree from T rump University? Then I could be duped by stupid people who are backed by bullshit.

 

Man. Am I being duped by the brilliant people with convincing data? Why oh why did I not go for that degree from T rump University? Then I could be duped by stupid people who are backed by bullshit.
So, you prefer to get shafted by an Admiral of the Navy than by a lowly seaman. Is getting screwed an inevitability for you?
@Sree - So, you prefer to get shafted by an Admiral of the Navy than by a lowly seaman. Is getting screwed an inevitability for you?
So, you like devolving the discussion into make believes and what if, and framing all sides of your story in total disregard for what's unfolding.

What about a good faith discussion, rather than always looking for scapegoats and fabricating villains?

 

I have been reading something this evening really nails the Trump thing, he doesn’t spare Democrats failures and weaknesses,

 

The Moral and Strategic Calculus of Voting for Joe Biden to Defeat Trump — or Not

Jeremy Scahill - April 20 2020,

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/20/donald-trump-joe-biden-2020-presidential-election-voting

… The real terror of the past three and a half years boils down to this: the consolidation of power by some of the most vile figures and interests in the Republican party.

Trump’s economic policies have enriched corporations and special interest groups beyond their imaginations, while sawing off the already inadequate social programs in this country. We still have no idea of the extent to which Trump and his family are financially benefiting from his presidency. He talks about women in disgusting ways, including attempting to publicly humiliate the women he is accused of raping and assaulting. And the sick reality is that a significant number of people in the U.S. clearly like these things even if they won’t openly admit it, though a disturbing number of them do feel emboldened to admire it. Trump has offered up an IPO on ignorance and hatred as a source of pride, and a lot of people enthusiastically bought in. .,.


It’s long article and don’t think I’m going to get much further to night, but so far it’s the most intelligent political assessment I’ve read in a while. Puts Biden’s health and mental sharpness into question. Sure hope he picks a great VP and that he builds a more focused aware young team of advisors and such.

Give it a read, we can report our assessment of Jeremy Scahill’s assessment.

 

Give it a read, we can report our assessment of Jeremy Scahill’s assessment.
I did read Scahill's article just so we can discuss, in good faith, what you have in mind. I also researched Scahill's background to get a feel of what his moral motivation is in order to be aware of my own bias.

So, what do you want to discuss?

 

 

So, you prefer to get shafted by an Admiral of the Navy than by a lowly seaman. Is getting screwed an inevitability for you?

Has the C-19 affected you mentally? I don’t have a clue what you are getting at with that question. I have never been screwed by any sailors of any rank. And if I did, it would have to be an attractive female sailor. She wouldn’t have to be an admiral.

So, what do you want to discuss?
Why you seem to unquestioningly support the most destructive to America and Americans president this nation has ever experienced.

etc.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/world/europe/coronavirus-american-exceptionalism.html

‘Sadness’ and Disbelief From a World Missing American Leadership
The coronavirus pandemic is shaking bedrock assumptions about U.S. exceptionalism. This is perhaps the first global crisis in more than a century where no one is even looking for Washington to lead. …

The pandemic sweeping the globe has done more than take lives and livelihoods from New Delhi to New York. It is shaking fundamental assumptions about American exceptionalism — the special role the United States played for decades after World War II as the reach of its values and power made it a global leader and example to the world. …

Today it is leading in a different way: More than 840,000 Americans have been diagnosed with Covid-19 and at least 46,784 have died from it, more than anywhere else in the world.
As the calamity unfolds, President Trump and state governors are not only arguing over what to do, but also over who has the authority to do it. Mr. Trump has fomented protests against the safety measures urged by scientific advisers, misrepresented factsabout the virus and the government response nearly daily, and this week used the virus to cut off the issuing of green cards to people seeking to emigrate to the United States.
“America has not done badly, it has done exceptionally badly,” said Dominique Moïsi, a political scientist and senior adviser at the Paris-based Institut Montaigne …


 

Has the C-19 affected you mentally?
If it hasn't, you haven't been paying attention.

Certainly the Pandemic has affected my psyche. But I am still capable of forming sentences that are coherent. That oft times seems out of Sree’s wheelhouse.

e.g., Sree asked “So, you prefer to get shafted by an Admiral of the Navy than by a lowly seaman. Is getting screwed an inevitability for you?”

What does that even mean?

I also researched Scahill’s background to get a feel of what his moral motivation is in order to be aware of my own bias.
Oh, are you ready to describe your biases? Please do. This will be interesting.

I’ve already shown you mine, now how about dropping 'em, lets take a peek at yours sree.

 

Then you can explain to Tim, well that’s if your words had any coherent logic behind them to be explained.

Okay, lets talk about Jeremy Scahill now. Here’s a bit of his bio. So what’s the problem? Are you a totalitarian incapable of hearing the evidence your "opponents’ reveal?

Oh but do I remember correctly, you are an enthusiast of our absolutist imbecile president? The malicious Russian Obligate and American Traitor who has uttered about 16,241 lies in his first three years in office.

And now he’s giving out medical advice that would have anyone else in a position of trust and authority tossed in Jail for malicious malpractice - ‘go ahead inject some sunshine into your body. Can’t figure out how to inject the the sun? Hell, no worries, there’s always bleach. After all, it disinfects like sunlight, why not shot up some bleach, it’s the next best thing. I’m told it ought to kill the virus, guaranteed.’

WIKI:

Early life[edit]
Scahill was born in Chicago, Illinois, and was raised in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, a suburb of Milwaukee, by “social activist” parents, Lisa and Michael Scahill, both nurses.[6] He graduated from Wauwatosa East High School in 1992.[7]

Jeremy attended a few University of Wisconsin regional campuses and a local technical college before deciding that his “time would be better spent by entering the struggle for justice in this country.” After dropping out of college, Scahill spent several years on the East Coast working in homeless shelters. He started his career as an unpaid intern at the nonprofit news program Democracy Now! of the Pacifica Radio network. While he was at Democracy Now!, Scahill learned the technical side of radio, and learned “journalism as a trade, rather than an academic study”.[8] …

Kosovo conflict[edit]
See also: Kosovo War
In 1999, he covered the Kosovo conflict, reporting live from Belgrade and Kosovo itself.[22] In an article in the International Socialist Review, Scahill accused the United Nations Mission in Kosovo UNMIK of being complicit in Albanian atrocities against Serbs.[23]

After Slobodan Milosevic’s death in 2006, Scahill accused the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) of practicing “victors’ justice” and being “a poor substitute for a true international court.”[24]

War on Terror[edit]
See also: War on Terror
Between 2001 and 2003, Scahill reported frequently from Baghdad for Democracy Now! and other media outlets. As the Iraq invasion began, Scahill appeared frequently on Democracy Now!, often co-hosting with Amy Goodman.[25]

Scahill has reported from Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, the former Yugoslavia,[26] post-Katrina Louisiana,[27] and elsewhere across the globe.

In July 2011, Scahill revealed the existence of a CIA-run counterterrorism center at the airport in Mogadishu, Somalia, and reported on a previously unknown secret prison located in the basement of the U.S.-funded Somali National Security Agency, in which—according to a U.S. official—U.S. agents interrogated prisoners.[citation needed]

When the public became aware of President Obama’s “Kill List”,[50] Scahill was frequently cited as an expert on the topic of extrajudicial killings.[51] …

Blackwater[edit]
Scahill’s first book, The New York Times bestseller Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army,[52]thoroughly revised and updated to include the Nisour Square massacre, was released in paperback edition in 2008.[53][54]Blackwater depicts the rise of the controversial military contracting firm Blackwater, now called Academi.[55]

Scahill exposed the presence of Blackwater contractors in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and his reporting sparked a Congressional inquiry and an internal Department of Homeland Security investigation.[56] …

 

Dirty Wars[edit]

Scahill in 2014
Scahill’s book published by Nation Books,[57] Dirty Wars: The World Is a Battlefield, released on April 23, 2013.[58] The main premise of the book is Obama’s continuation of Bush’s doctrine that “the world is a battlefield” and relying on missiles and drone strikes, JSOC to carry the bulk of the covert operations and targeted killings of suspected terrorists. …

 

Awards and recognition[edit]
Scahill has won numerous awards, including the prestigious George Polk Award (twice),[67] numerous Project Censored Awards, and the Izzy Award,[68] named after investigative journalist I. F. Stone. He was among the few Western reporters to gain access to the Abu Ghraib prison when Saddam Hussein was in power and his story on the emptying of that prison won a 2003 Golden Reel Award from The National Federation of Community Broadcasters.[69] In 2013, he was awarded the Windham–Campbell Literature Prize, one of the richest literary awards in the world.[70][71]

Selected writings[edit]
“Blood Is Thicker Than Blackwater” | This article appeared in the May 8, 2006 edition of The Nation[72]
“Blackwater’s Private Spies” | This article appeared in the June 23, 2008 edition of The Nation[73]
“Mercenary Jackpot” | This article appeared in the August 28, 2006 edition of The Nation[74]
“Washington’s War in Yemen Backfires” | This article appeared in the March 5–12, 2012 edition of The Nation[75]
“Blowback in Somalia” | This article appeared in the September 26, 2011 edition of The Nation[76]
“The CIA’s Secret Sites in Somalia” | This article appeared in the August 1–8, 2011 edition of The Nation[77]
“Osama’s Assassins” | This article appeared in the May 23, 2011 edition of The Nation[78]
The Assassination Complex: Inside the Government’s Secret Drone Warfare Program, book by Jeremy Scahill and the staff of The Intercept[79][80]


But I digress, you were saying about Scahill ???

 

Oh, guess I should define “Imbecile” since it seems such a perfect description for that treasonous monster, that the corporate brainwashers foisted on an idiot nation of thoughtless under-educated gluttonous pions.

Oh and, proud of their Willful Ignorance to-boot.

Oh and, resentful of anyone with knowledge and respect for physical reality (or social cooperation for that matter).

courtesy of WIKI:

The term imbecile was once used by psychiatrists to denote a category of people with moderate to severe intellectual disability, as well as a type of criminal.[1][2] The word arises from the Latin word imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded.[3] It included people with an IQ of 26–50, between "idiot" (IQ of 0–25) and "moron" (IQ of 51–70).[4] In the obsolete medical classification (ICD-9, 1977), these people were said to have "moderate mental retardation" or "moderate mental subnormality" with IQ of 35–49.[5]

The meaning was further refined into mental and moral imbecility.[6][7] The concepts of “moral insanity”, “moral idiocy”," and “moral imbecility”, led to the emerging field of eugenic criminology, which held that crime can be reduced by preventing “feeble-minded” people from reproducing.[8][9]

“Imbecile” as a concrete classification was popularized by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[10] and was used in 1927 by United States Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. in his ruling in the forced-sterilization case Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927).[11]

The concept is closely associated with psychology, psychiatry, criminology, and eugenics. However, the term imbecile quickly passed into vernacular usage as a derogatory term. It fell out of professional use in the 20th century in favor of mental retardation.[12]

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Oh, are you ready to describe your biases? Please do. This will be interesting. I’ve already shown you mine, now how about dropping ’em, lets take a peek at yours sree.
Thanks for showing me your blog. Master of culinary arts? How about a throw down with me? Which cuisine are you masterful at? I don't mean rib tips and stuff. I am talking international.