In usual egomaniac fashion the Republicans are drunk with lust to act on all their pet paranoias and hatred. They will be reeking vengeance for many slights real and imagined.
They even want to take on the legal Marijuana industry and a citizen’s right to buy legal cannabis.
Now that will be interesting to watch. Perhaps the Democrats could take some notes, because that one is going to be evangelical thug against street thug, too much money and power and guns and expectation stands behind that legal pot shit anymore, the happy hippies are gone. The big boys are doing it now, and, and here’s that crucial and, the public loves it. And where it’s happening sounds like the cops are pleasantly surprised at outcomes. Of Republicans would have to step into the world of objective demonstrable facts to recognize that.
In a sick way the thought makes me smile, finally an opponent with genuine cohones, as opposed to the usual DNC White Bread. Gonna see them bleed if they go after that one. I got no pony in that race, just saying. Anyone else see a civil war brewing out there?
Jeff Sessions’ Coming War on Legal MarijuanaThere’s little to stop the attorney general nominee from ignoring the will of millions of pro-pot voters.
By JAMES HIGDON December 05, 2016
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/jeff-sessions-coming-war-on-legal-marijuana-214501
On Election Day, eight states voted to legalize recreational or medical marijuana, bringing the nationwide total of medical states to 29. In Florida, medical marijuana won nearly 2 million more votes than Donald Trump. Added up, 65 million people now live in states that authorize adult recreational use; more than half of all Americans have access to medical marijuana; and almost everyone else lives in a state that permits CBD, a non-psychoactive component of cannabis that helps treatment of juvenile epilepsy. It’s easier now to identify the six states that have done nothing to end the prohibition on marijuana than the ones that are breaking away from the federal law that treats marijuana the same as heroin.
There was another winner on November 8, however, and he has thrown up a serious challenge to the seemingly inexorable march of legal marijuana. By nominating Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III for attorney general, President-elect Donald J. Trump is about to put into the nation’s top law enforcement job a man with a long and antagonistic attitude toward marijuana. As a U.S. Attorney in Alabama in the 1980s, Sessions said he thought the KKK "were OK until I found out they smoked pot."
In April, Sessions said, “Good people don't smoke marijuana," and that it was a "very real danger" that is “not the kind of thing that ought to be legalized."
Sessions, who turns 70 on Christmas Eve, has called marijuana reform a "tragic mistake" and criticized FBI Director James Comey and Attorneys General Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch for not vigorously enforcing a the federal prohibition that President Obama has called “untenable over the long term."
In a floor speech earlier this year, Senator Sessions said: "You can’t have the President of the United States of America talking about marijuana like it is no different than taking a drink… It is different….It is already causing a disturbance in the states that have made it legal." ...
In a floor speech earlier this year, Senator Sessions said: "You can’t have the President of the United States of America talking about marijuana like it is no different than taking a drink… It is different….(marijuana) is already causing a disturbance in the states that have made it legal." ...
I don't have the time or interest to search around for stories. Just saying, if anyone has any, do share, with original sources of course. ;-)
There’s little to stop the attorney general nominee from ignoring the will of millions of pro-pot voters.
I'm wondering why he shouldn't ignore the will of pro-drug advocates? Since Marijuana is still illegal on a federal level this would be his job. Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
In a floor speech earlier this year, Senator Sessions said: "You can’t have the President of the United States of America talking about marijuana like it is no different than taking a drink… It is different….(marijuana) is already causing a disturbance in the states that have made it legal." ...
I don't have the time or interest to search around for stories. Just saying, if anyone has any, do share, with original sources of course. ;-)
There’s little to stop the attorney general nominee from ignoring the will of millions of pro-pot voters.
I'm wondering why he shouldn't ignore the will of pro-drug advocates? Since Marijuana is still illegal on a federal level this would be his job. Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
That is a question that no American today should have to ask.
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?I know from my own experience that pot is far preferable to liquor. I don't recall ever seeing someone who was high on pot being mean to others. If anything it mellowed them out to the point of just chill-axin. Liquor OTOH often turns a docile person into a real ahole. If anything liquor should be banned and pot made as available as beer is today.
There’s little to stop the attorney general nominee from ignoring the will of millions of pro-pot voters.
I'm wondering why he shouldn't ignore the will of pro-drug advocates? Since Marijuana is still illegal on a federal level this would be his job. Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?I know from my own experience that pot is far preferable to liquor. I don't recall ever seeing someone who was high on pot being mean to others. If anything it mellowed them out to the point of just chill-axin. Liquor OTOH often turns a docile person into a real ahole. If anything liquor should be banned and pot made as available as beer is today.This is a very specious and tiresome argument. While marijuana users are not "mean", they are - like all drug users - dysfunctional to society at large. Consequently there is no sensible reason to legalize marijuana in order to even out the harm caused by other drugs.
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-review-summarizes-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-review-summarizes-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects
The problem is that these reports do not reflexed the real life situations that the public sees on a daily basics. Many of these reports have been proven wrong and like this report uses a lot of “may be" and “can be" in the conclusions. These reports also totally disregard thousands of years of history of the product that show contrary results.
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-review-summarizes-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects
Starting too young - that's not good, at least let the body develop into adulthood.
But I'm reminded that there are an awful lot of things putting kids a risk these days.
The driving thing is interesting, particularly compared with alcohol.
I wonder if there's been a study about alcohol usage once marijuana is legally available. I wouldn't be surprised if alcohol sales went down.
http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientific-evidence
Here's another interesting cross-section of studies.
Pot Science: Top Marijuana Findings of 2015
By Cari Nierenberg, Live Science Contributor | December 29, 2015
http://www.livescience.com/53218-top-marijuana-scientific-findings-2015.html
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-review-summarizes-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects
The problem is that these reports do not reflexed the real life situations that the public sees on a daily basics. Many of these reports have been proven wrong and like this report uses a lot of “may be" and “can be" in the conclusions. These reports also totally disregard thousands of years of history of the product that show contrary results.I'm interested in this. Can you elaborate?
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-review-summarizes-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects
The problem is that these reports do not reflexed the real life situations that the public sees on a daily basics. Many of these reports have been proven wrong and like this report uses a lot of “may be" and “can be" in the conclusions. These reports also totally disregard thousands of years of history of the product that show contrary results.I'm interested in this. Can you elaborate?
OK, take the wives tale that smoking Marijuana causes birth defects. Has the government ever once said no it did not? Then I find out that in some countries that marijuana is used in the pregnancy and has been for many years because of the results of better child birth experience. Yet, especially in the Bible belt the birth defects story is still being used. Another example was the government saying the smoking marijuana would cause lung cancer. Who could counter the government’s claim without access to marijuana for testing, which by the way the government would not give access. But we don’t know how Scripts Institution got its marijuana, but they did the test and proved there was no tar in marijuana and could not cause lung cancer. Afterwards the government withdrew the claim.
To really understand the level of what the government has be doing. Things like the DEA owning the patent for the marijuana pill. Is nothing compared to the funds and backing our government has given to Israel to research marijuana. We have basiclly funded and given away a billion dollar industry for political backing.
Israel: The Epicenter of Cannabis Research and Innovation
https://www.merryjane.com/news/israel-the-epicenter-of-cannabis-research-and-innovation
Israel Is Cornering The Medical Marijuana Market - News – Forward.com
http://forward.com/news/337294/israel-is-cornering-the-medical-marijuana-market/
Preliminary Results From Israeli Study: Cannabis Delays Cancer Development
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/culture/health/.premium-1.651249
Also, some scientist believe marijuana was the first plant domesticated by modern man. Its use has been found worldwide and though out history by man-kind. It has even been found in burials which means it could have also had religious meanings.
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-review-summarizes-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects
The problem is that these reports do not reflexed the real life situations that the public sees on a daily basics. Many of these reports have been proven wrong and like this report uses a lot of “may be" and “can be" in the conclusions. These reports also totally disregard thousands of years of history of the product that show contrary results.I'm interested in this. Can you elaborate?
OK, take the wives tale that smoking Marijuana causes birth defects. Has the government ever once said no it did not? Then I find out that in some countries that marijuana is used in the pregnancy and has been for many years because of the results of better child birth experience. Yet, especially in the Bible belt the birth defects story is still being used. Another example was the government saying the smoking marijuana would cause lung cancer. Who could counter the government’s claim without access to marijuana for testing, which by the way the government would not give access. But we don’t know how Scripts Institution got its marijuana, but they did the test and proved there was no tar in marijuana and could not cause lung cancer. Afterwards the government withdrew the claim. I'm very sceptical of Marijuana being safe for pregnant women - that goes against all medical advice I'm aware of.
To really understand the level of what the government has be doing. Things like the DEA owning the patent for the marijuana pill. Is nothing compared to the funds and backing our government has given to Israel to research marijuana. We have basiclly funded and given away a billion dollar industry for political backing.
Israel: The Epicenter of Cannabis Research and Innovation
https://www.merryjane.com/news/israel-the-epicenter-of-cannabis-research-and-innovation
Israel Is Cornering The Medical Marijuana Market - News – Forward.com
http://forward.com/news/337294/israel-is-cornering-the-medical-marijuana-market/
Preliminary Results From Israeli Study: Cannabis Delays Cancer Development
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/culture/health/.premium-1.651249
Fascinating preliminary results with cancer treatments - however, preliminary is the key word here.
Also, some scientist believe marijuana was the first plant domesticated by modern man. Its use has been found worldwide and though out history by man-kind. It has even been found in burials which means it could have also had religious meanings.
It has been cultivated throughout history for hemp. There isn't any evidence of widespread recreational use before the modern age.
I'm very sceptical of Marijuana being safe for pregnant women - that goes against all medical advice I'm aware of.
How can you have any medical advice at all? What has it been, over forty years ago the government classified marijuana as a class one drug, just until some medical testing could be done. Then the government held up all most all testing. Next was a worldwide war on marijuana, nobody wanted sanctions. So, do we know whether it is safe or not. No, I don’t think so. The most common drugs used during child birth are Morphine, Stadol, Fentanyl, Nubain and Demerol. And there is the possibility that these drugs are very expense in some countries and marijuana is cheap.
It has been cultivated throughout history for hemp. There isn't any evidence of widespread recreational use before the modern age.
What is recreational use? Today we drink coffee for example. Is it for nutritional value? No, I don’t think so. Is it for medical value? No, I don’t think so. Could you say that one reason is, that it is used socially? I think that would be fair. Marijuana is believed to have been use in a drink that was used like we use coffee today. It has been found in the food preparing areas of buildings use back in the times of the silk roads. Then at the time of Jesus it has been found in food recipes.
Article from LiveScience that says – “One of its burials had a large supply of processed Cannabis flowers in two containers". It is interesting because there is only one use for the Cannabis flower. Now the question comes to mind, why the cannabis flower? Was it placed in the grave as food, money or for recreational use?
http://www.livescience.com/56596-cannabis-shroud-found-in-ancient-grave.html
Beltane,
Let’s focus on your term “widespread". Would you say that there is widespread recreational use today of marijuana? Whoops, we first need to define “recreational". California, one of the biggest users and growers of marijuana in the US was all medical {recreational} use until this year. It is called medical, but it is 99% used for recreational uses. Therefore if you are focused on medical use, you are chasing a dead horse. History may record the use differently. Once the science is done, yes, there has been theories of great possibilities of medical uses. Right now it is sort of like the cranberry, it has medical properties that people understand, but science hasn’t quite figured out how those properties work. But most cranberries are not consumed for its medical properties.
Back to widespread. The first time I saw marijuana was at the coffee shops back in 62’ or 63’. It was openly used by the beatniks. It was not uncommon when hitchhiking to share a joint. And it was not uncommon for a wooden bowl of weed to be on the table of homes, especially in the beach areas of California. I remember San Francisco as being really open to weed. The hippest spot was the Geysers just north of San Francisco. To match that today you would have to go to Hempcon in Los Angeles or Hempcon at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. But no, it is not yet as widespread in the freedom of use today as decades ago.
Point being, if the use of marijuana a few decades ago is not well documented, what makes you think that you can find documentation of the amount of usage for medical verses recreational a millennium ago?
I'm very sceptical of Marijuana being safe for pregnant women - that goes against all medical advice I'm aware of.
How can you have any medical advice at all? What has it been, over forty years ago the government classified marijuana as a class one drug, just until some medical testing could be done. Then the government held up all most all testing. Next was a worldwide war on marijuana, nobody wanted sanctions. So, do we know whether it is safe or not. No, I don’t think so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_on_Drug_Abuse
The most common drugs used during child birth are Morphine, Stadol, Fentanyl, Nubain and Demerol. And there is the possibility that these drugs are very expense in some countries and marijuana is cheap.
That is possible, although I can't locate studies on it. It wouldn't change the fact that drug abuse by pregnant women has been researched to a great degree and found to be entirely negative.
Point being, if the use of marijuana a few decades ago is not well documented, what makes you think that you can find documentation of the amount of usage for medical verses recreational a millennium ago?
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28034925/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/worlds-oldest-marijuana-stash-totally-busted/#.WFwgQfkrKUk
History and Archaeology of course. We know nearly all literate ancient civilizations were aware of the pharmacological effects of Marijuana; the classical and near east civilizations documented their use of wine, along with descriptions of its harmful effects, so it's reasonable to think they would have also documented recreational use of Marijuana if it was a common activity. Since they didn't, we can file that away under "probably not".
Not to mention legalizing marijuana for recreational use is a bad idea.
Do you have any objective evidence to back that opinion?
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-review-summarizes-research-marijuanas-negative-health-effects
So don't let teenagers use pot. Problem solved.