The best response to what about oct 7

You would think that people that got kicked out would undetstand that you don’t do around kicking others out. I’ve never understood why they don’t get that.

Who is shouting this?

I’ve seen this ploy before and as I said, it is asinine. I’m not going to fall for this argument. As I said before you’re only upset because others aren’t agreeing with you on how to answer the question. There are better ways to answer than an asinine response. A better answer would probably be “Hamas is an on going problem, but how the two countries are going about it isn’t the best way to deal with Hamas, because they aren’t actually dealing with Hamas bombing whole cities.” Notice, I put the blame on Hamas, where it belongs, and not on either country.

Hamas started it. They terrorize every country they enter. It’s not Israel, though they are trying to defend themselves, but not in the best way and it’s not Palestine, though they are going about it poorly too.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ]

Seriously.

Does the fact that Jews lived there 1900 years ago gave them the rights to expel Palestinians from their homes nowadays ?

Incidentally, Palestinians have lived there as long as Jews.

If we admit that, the native Americans should reclaim Manhattan ?

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Yes. After all, the whole of the U.S. is stolen land and it was stolen from the Native Americans. Beads? Please! What a rip off! Incidentally, Native Americans have been lived in North and South America longer than the Europeans.

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How would like to be homeless for 1900 years. Think about it.
Wandering all over Europe, being persecuted wherever you go?

They weren’t homeless. Give me a break. Jews were allowed to practice their religion throughout the Islamic and Christian Empires, but yes, they were considered second class, not allowed to have all the rights they should have. But, really, we’re talking about a different age, there were a lot of people that didn’t have rights.

There were hundreds of other ethnicities and tribes and “peoples” who were under the control of the Islamic Empire. Many of them were happy that they had better governments than the ones that the Muslims conquered. That still doesn’t make it right that there was a religious test for leadership or that monarchies handed down their crowns to their children. That system failed, and we don’t do that as much anymore. We respect people who live on ancestral land.

I’m pretty sure there is a way for Jews to have a homeland and share it with the holy lands of Christians and Muslims.

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No where in the world does this apply but the zionist want it applied to Israel with irony being the vast majority are Ashkenazi Jews

Another poorly formed sentence. Please take your time to proofread your posts and make sure you are communicating well. How does America stealing land from the indigenous people not apply? What do you mean?

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I dont know anywhere else in the world where ancient times are brought up other than israel as justification of taking that land now in modern times , on top of the fact that many jews in israel are Ashkenazi jews

People all over the world are arguing about land rights. I live on land that was ceded to natives in 1854, but my government broke that treaty. Israel is somewhat unique, in that they made their claim in the recent century, at time when colonizers were moving out of their occupied territories. Maybe I’m looking at this much more broadly, as all powerful nations that attack and take land and still claim they are doing it legally.

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Read my post. Ancient times.

I was responding to write4u’s comment about the Native Americans and Manhattan. Since he brought up Native Americans and the stolen land, I replied with history of the U.S., which obviously shows you probably don’t know it.

That is not helpful. You imply that your posts are complete and understandable and maybe even you are insulting my intelligence. I don’t know and don’t care.

Indigenous people assumes prehistory, something before European type land ownership. The Americas were inhabited 10,000 years ago, that’s pretty ancient.

Why does that matter? Ashkenazi are as Jewish as any other Jews.

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Ancestral rights to land have to deal with practical reality. If all new world Whites decided to return to Europe, there would be chaos, even though they would have an ancestral right to that land. That is exactly the problem in Israel.

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Because a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism,

That is a common belief but it’s not accurate. Ashkenazi are a genetically distinct people with about half Middle Eastern and half European DNA, with the European side being mostly Southern Euro.

Oddly enough, Ashkenazi have little relation to Eastern and Northern Europeans. Basically, some Jewish men arrived in ancient Italy and mated with local women. Their decedents were very clannish up to the present day, which is why they are so genetically distinct.

Here’s a more in depth study about Ashkenazi Euro ancestry.

How does this sit with you Thatguy?

Israel knew 1 year ago about hamas plans on oct 7