TELL YOUR SENATORS to "IMPEACH TRUMP !"

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We, the US citizens, all have two Senators. Every Senator accepts emails, phone calls and letters. They pay attention only when they get deluged with mail.

If you believe Donald Trump betrayed his Oath of Office, it’s your patriotic duty to let your Senators, Democratic and Republican, know how you feel.

This is an all hands on deck situation like America has never endured before. You’ll find the complete list of Senator contact information at the bottom of this post. Along the way you’ll find links to informative details: Detailed information of: 77 days of Trump fomenting sedition; The Myth of Voter Fraud; Creating a Worst Case Pandemic; Out and Out Criminality; Senator’s Addresses. Make your voice heard!

If you want to be more than an impotent spectator to history, participate, contact your Senators, tell them why you believe Trump must be impeached - that is to send a clear message, the American people will not tolerate criminality and totalitarian thinking in their presidents.

Let’s acknowledge our bias. We believe in American pluralism and democracy.

We accept the Statue of Liberty’s promise of a civil nation of immigrants; and a government, of the people, by the people, and for the people. Never perfect, but striving to do better.

source: NYTimes

{My question is, why isn’t the Democratic Party (and social media) pounding on their drums and engaging their grassroots into such constructive action? }

for the details link

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Dear Mods, please delete the duplicate thread that seems to be in the system. Thank you.

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Done. I’m from Bumf**k Missouri, which has dumpster people in government- the gov’ner, senate, and house. They aren’t going to do anything because the dumpster people sadly out number President Biden supporters in my state.

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I'm Done
 
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How long does it take to click a link to their email, send 1 sentence, give your best shot. If nothing else, that message makes a tick in that column at that office and beyond.

Apathy is exactly what they want,

go out and spend the evening venting and laughing and gnashing teeth, watching comedians, vent, drain your anger, >>> but when it comes time to show for this simple act, like voting and writing Representative during crucial moments and beyond - that matter ONLY IF THEY ADD UP.

Rather than rolling over (which f’n trust me I know all about the waves, still there’s always that morning after.) Why not try to at least register a tick during the moments when they (or their absence) matters,

perhaps even strive to be multiplier and get other pissed off people to spend that couple minutes, to do something when it might help make a difference. Our system is so f’n broken because so many citizens have given up on it, exactly the way the 7% want us to. We are such suckers.

 

We The People of the United States have two Senators representing each state. Every Senator accepts emails, phone calls and letters. They pay attention only when they get deluged with mail.

If you believe Donald Trump betrayed his Oath of Office, isn’t it your patriotic duty to let your Senators, Democratic and Republican, know how you feel?

This is an all hands on deck situation like America has never endured before. You’ll find the complete list of Senator contact information at the bottom of this post. Along the way you’ll find links to informative details.

Such as: 77 days of Trump fomenting sedition; The Myth of Voter Fraud; Creating a Worst Case Pandemic; Out and Out Criminality; Senator’s Addresses.

Make your voice heard!

If we want to be more than an impotent spectator to history, participate, contact your Senators, tell them why you believe Trump must be impeached - send them a clear, succinct message, the American people will not tolerate criminality and totalitarian thinking in their presidents.

Let’s acknowledge our bias. We believe in American pluralism and democracy. We accept the Statue of Liberty’s promise of a civil nation of immigrants; and a government, of the people, by the people, and for the people. Never perfect, but striving to do better.

{My question is, why isn’t the Democratic Party (and social media) pounding on their drums and engaging their grassroots into such substantive constructive action?

Flood Republican Senator’s with pleas to wake up from the fraud. Unless we can learn from our mistakes we are lost. Democracy depends on an informed and engage electorate. If we aren’t changing minds, we are losing.}

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We have one of each.

The (R) guy already said he’s not running next time around (2022) so there may be hope his mind has been freed.

There is already a trump-minion that threw his hat into the ring (previous loser of other elections). He says he will push the “Trump Agenda” … whatever that might be. The snot-nosed kid is just trying to ride the wave of the cesspool.

Unfortunately, for this state, it seems the pool runeth over.

 

Here’s a link to contact your senator:

https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

 

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yeah, fortunately I’m in a far flung corner of Colorado. Still it’s more like an equation. It’s just the way it is.

If we aren't changing minds we are losing.
I keep giving up. But f it, the view is even worse from down there. Get up, at least try.

During these next couple weeks a flood of mail, or lack thereof, will make a difference.

And not even making the effort is simply giving the Republican Totalitarian Machine (which is way bigger and more than trump) will keep on getting their way.

 

It’s a damned crooked system, but not trying to make repairs, only guarantees it will get even more crooked that much sooner.

 

Thank you, @mrmhead, for adding that link, Ya think I could of thought of that. :wink:

 

 

 

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I have jury duty in a few weeks. If I get called, maybe I’ll tell the lawyers I’ve already made up my mind which way I’m going to vote, regardless of the evidence, like many of our senators.

I’ll make my decision based on his hair color. If it’s the same as mine - Innocent!

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@citizenschallengev3 The “Done.” was in reference to the first part about deleting the copy post. Nothing else. Then, instead of making another paragraph, I went on to talk about the MO government and how Repug and dumpster people they are. Sorry about the confusion

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Oh shit, sorry! That whole thing came across shocking - I should have known better - I was reading the whole thing wrong. Those dang blinders sometimes.

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I was trigger happy because I’ve heard it from others recently. ?

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It’s OK. Hot topic. I did write Boy Blunt-head (AKA Roy Blunt, the delusional right-wing great a$$hole) Posh Pawley (AKA Josh Hawley, the White Supremacist senator who cheered the insurrectionist on) today telling them to convict the dotard. I got a form letter and if either one does respond, it will probably go something like the Repug BS we have heard thus far- can’t impeach a sitting prez and can’t impeach him after he leaves, blah blah blah. If our democracy isn’t destroyed by these clowns, hopefully they are voted out very soon. Besides, Boy Blunt-head has been in office far too many years and Posh Pawley has been in office far too long, no matter how many years he’s been in government. There’s more who need to go, but there seems to be too many diluted people who think the dotard was wrong and is still president. rolling eyes

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Any Repub Senator who votes to convict is announcing that he/she will not run for office again.

Any Dem Senator who does not vote to convict is announcing that he/she will not run for office again.

All the Senators understand their constituents and, for all of them, the most important thing is to keep their job.

2022 will be interesting for many members of the House and Senate and downright frightening for some.

Same for 2024. The voters will remember; will it be “our way or the highway”.

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ibelieveinlogic If they do not vote to convict, I will NOT vote for them. Then again, I’ve never voted Repug in my voting life, that I can recall. I’ve always voted Dem. So anyone who does NOT vote to convict the dotard, will not get my vote and I’m sure I am not the only one who feels that way. You may find that ends up being the majority come the next election, especially if people want to keep our democracy. There maybe a lot of Repugs losing their jobs next election, which for some is in two years.

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Has anyone else seen the talk about a new Republican party? Formed by former members of Bush team and others? Seems like the non extremist Repugs are finally organizing.

We found out in 2020 that voters will come out when they see a real problem. I hope more Repugs do too, the ones who see the Tea Party as a problem. And that they all will stick around for all the little things we should all be doing.

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Why it matters that some GOP senators huddled with Trump's lawyers Graham, Lee, and Cruz aren't just ignoring their impeachment oath, they're flaunting their indifference to their responsibilities.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-it-matters-some-gop-senators-huddled-trump-s-lawyers-n1257606

And because the usual rules and procedures of an American trial do not apply to the Senate’s impeachment proceedings, it stands to reason that there will be dramatic differences in how senators approach their responsibilities. But by any sensible measure, it’s tough to defend tactics like these.

[Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham, Mike Lee, and Ted Cruz] were seen going into a meeting with Trump’s lawyers after the trial wrapped for the day. “We were discussing their strategy for tomorrow and we were sharing our thoughts in terms of where the argument was and where it should go,” Cruz, who’s said he’ll vote to acquit the former president, told reporters afterwards. [Defense attorney David] Schoen said they discussed “procedure.”

Clearly, procedural considerations were not the sole focus. Not only did Cruz concede that the GOP senators offered ideas about what the defense attorneys should say, but members of Team Trump publicly thanked the Republicans for their recommendations.

Or put another way, using the loose terms applied to the impeachment process, this is a trial in which three jurors huddled in private with defense attorneys, offering guidance on how best to persuade other jurors. …

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Yes, I’ve been reading about that- the Repug split into 2 parties. Not sure how they are going to get on the ballot when other parties have a difficult time in getting on the ballot and in every state. Not all parties are on the ballot and those that do get on the ballot are not on the ballot in every state. This could be interesting, but I can see a state like Missouri, who only allows Repug, Dems, Independents (maybe), and that’s pretty much it. Very rarely does another party pop up on the ballot.

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Can’t tell you how heartbreaking it is hearing all the good news rumors floating by, then watching the follow up.

 

FEBRUARY 11, 2021. Prominent anti-Trump Republicans reject third party By Tim Reid, James Oliphant, David Morgan, Joseph Ax

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-third-party-insight/anti-trump-republicans-face-major-challenge-in-launching-third-party-idUSKBN2AC053

Reuters exclusively reported on Wednesday that more than 120 Republicans - including former elected officials, along with former administrators under Trump and former presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush - met virtually on Feb. 5 to discuss forming a third party or a new center-right faction.

Two of the most prominent anti-Trump Republicans in Congress - Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois - rejected the idea of a breakaway party in statements to Reuters on Thursday. Other Republican critics of Trump expressed similar skepticism - arguing a third party would accomplish little beyond splitting the votes of conservatives and helping Democrats get elected.

The resistance to a third party among some of Trump’s toughest Republican critics underscores the extreme difficulty of such a political revolt. Such an effort would require walking away from the Republican Party’s massive political infrastructure - staff, money, connections and data on donors and voters - that would take years if not decades to build from scratch.


 

120 anti-Trump Republicans are in talks to form a center-right 3rd party that would run on 'principled conservatism,' report says Kelsey Vlamis Feb 11, 2021, 12:10 AM www _ businessinsider _ com/anti-trump-republicans-talks-to-form-third-party-reuters-2021-2
But yes it's early days. We shall see.

But it’s sure looking like the Half Measure Democrats are going to fall short again. Maybe they need to learn some lessons from their own mistakes, before they can help learn others. We shall see.

Why isn’t there a laser focus on the Trumpist Insurrections Senators - why can’t a pig like Lindsey with his absurd double standard on display not on the public whipping post? What about Moscow Mitch, he seems to be getting a free ride? A dozens other could be called out, put only with an informed passionate grassroots at your back. Something the DNC don’t seem to want to facilitate. Late night jokes and profundities, are like the Friday night buzz, feels wonderful, but what are you going to do with it when you get up the next day?

 

 

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@citizenschallengev3 1. It’s not a third party. We have several already that don’t end up on dockets. We have the Communist party (yes, it exists in the U.S.), Socialist party, Democratic Socialist party (who generally run on the Dem docket), Green Party, Humanist Party (little known, but it was formed a few years ago), Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, and a few more that I can’t think of right now.

  1. Even if they succeed in forming a new party, the need to get on the ballot in all 50 states and territories. That rarely happens outside the main two (Dem and Repug) and Independent. Write in vote rarely succeed.

  2. Most people believe we have a two party system, but we do not. So there needs to be a re-education of our politics.

  3. Write-in and votes outside the main two rarely win. Even Independent runners for office rarely win an election.

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When I think of third parties here in American I’ve seen a tool ruthlessly highjacked by the deep pockets of the masters of the universe.

F’n Nader being the most grievous and historical damaging to nation and world.

I’d love to see the right wing, get fractured and self-destructive via their third party attempts - but they are run by real strategists, so doubt much will come of it. Besides it’s easier to keep totalitarian hearts in line than sleepy liberals.

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Who says liberals are sleepy? At 18 I came out fighting for Ferraro in the very first time I ever voted and haven’t looked back. I even fought for President Obama to get elected. ERA fight was nothing compared to that.

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I wouldn’t use “sleepy”, but I have seen an ebb and flow of liberals. When things get really bad, they rally, but I would say conservatives are better at sticking with their message consistently and over the long haul.