Rule By Lies And Fear In The U$A.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Dc2ZfpKmo

This interview is an inflection point to the struggle… while socialist types are being burned alive in the streets by capitalist types. Rule by fear and rule by lies are the methods that the capitalist agenda leverages now. Do not become their zombie. Breath and absorb the energy in this video. It will keep you alive.

The U.S. is ruled by Capitalists. Capitalism is the law of the land and if you work for one of those capitalists (AKA Hellmart, Amazon, etc) you don’t get to spend time with your family on holidays without getting punished in some way due to their greed. They don’t care if you drop dead on the job due to lack of rest or what have you. It’s the new form of slavery, IMO.

I am all for the radical leftists until the point that they become allies of the T rumpists and Russians and alt-right, by turning young progressives against the Democrats, if their favorite politician (e.g. Bernie) is not the Dem nominee. If Bernie or Warren are not the selected nominee, tell me if those of Jim Dore’s ilk, do not turn against the Dem nominee, and thusly effectively become allies of T rump, the alt-right, and the Russians.

I will be fine with Warren or Bernie or ANY of the other Dem candidates who actually becomes the nominee.

I am all for the radical leftists until the point that they become allies of the T rumpists and Russians and alt-right, by turning young progressives against the Democrats, if their favorite politician (e.g. Bernie) is not the Dem nominee. If Bernie or Warren are not the selected nominee, tell me if those of Jim Dore’s ilk, do not turn against the Dem nominee, and thusly effectively become allies of T rump, the alt-right, and the Russians.
Well TimB, what if the entire Russia scare is there to squash the movement? We have considerable proof that Russiagate is propaganda sourced not only from the status quo Democratic party, but from the deep state as well. That both parties have been bought out by the capitalists is readily proven. Still, that proof is my burden here, so let's start with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Lk5nr35XM

I should remind you that I am nowhere near done with this analysis. The consequences of Russiagate as propaganda are far larger than this one video. Consider how many of our media sources have failed to do the analysis that you witness here. How many of them have promoted a false narrative. Your only defense to stand on Russia as the source of blame for the rigged 2016 election is to call me a Russia troll. I assure you that I am not and that I seek the truth first before any allegiance to a political party. I suspect you do suffer the inverse phenomenon based on your statement here, but I will await your clarification. Do you place the truth higher in principle than political party? I ask you this question seriously… and obviously this question is meant to be read by a broader audience. Still, you are willing to at least step up and speak here.

 

“Russiagate” IS the propaganda.

Truth is more important than party. (T rumpists party members cannot say that. Well they could, since they are avid liars).

Dore and his ilk are useful idiots of the Russians, spreading the big lie that Russia did nothing of consequence.

The Mueller report found that the T rump campaign were quite happy to be receiving help from the Russians. We now know that Stone kept in frequent contact with the T rump campaign starting in April of 2016 about the leaks of stolen emails. You blithely downplay and discount the Mueller reports findings of widespread and systematic Russian interference.

It seems to me that you and others have been successfully propagandized. The “deep state” is a myth. Another conspiracy theory.

It seems to me that you have been manipulated in your beliefs and you don’t even know it.

To what end have you been propagandized? You will likely conflict with the Dem Party nominee (if it’s not Bernie) and thus contribute to the continuation of T rump for another 4 years. Hmm, how convenient, that’s just what the Russians worked for in 2016 (and accomplished) and that’s just what the Russians are continuing to do now for 2020. Let me guess, you are an avid Facebook user. Tho the Russians used other services also to influence beliefs and actions.

Are you so afraid of the Russians that you have abandoned truth?

The biggest hoax of our current day is the hoax that says Russia did nothing significant to interfere with our election.

 

…andTech

Without the despised bureaucrats (deep state)) that work for our American government and operate according to its laws and regulations, rather than the next election - our functioning society would start crumbling in days.

How about ethics, and honesty, and physical facts and truth?

What about constructive fact-based debating WITH each other and learning FROM each other?

 

That title should read: Super Rich want no country, they want it all.

I really thought I wasting my life reading forums and debunking stupidity. Then people started getting measles and shooting up pizza restaurants. I didn’t think a US Senator would believe a conspiracy theory.

Has anyone found responses to the sources he sites? He claims reputable reporting on this, like the Washington Examiner and The Economist. I know those lean right, but this is Breitbart stuff.

They don’t believe this conspiracy theory. They were actually informed that Russia was pushing this months ago by our intelligence agencies. They know what it is. They push it because their interests align better with Russian interests than US interests.

You just can’t tell what people believe. Like Duncan Hunter, for a year he’s been saying he didn’t do it, now he pleads guilty.

Fair enough. But they do have enough factual information that they should not believe it if they do. And it’s nearly impossible that all the Republicans pushing this narrative actually believe it after learning the facts before they started pushing it.

It is completely maddening. I’ve told people I know, and I’ve heard it said at the highest levels, that Evangelicals have lost credibility. I thought we were done with them after Romney lost in 2012 though, so their voting power is still strong. It seems they are risking everything on the gamble that they will maintain enough power to keep lying and cheating and getting away with it. The scary thing is, they could pull it off, at least for a few more years, maybe decades.

I’ve said it before, it’s a sad commentary on society when “Everybody dies” is a comforting thought. We’ve seen their power weaken significantly in our lifetimes, though. And now they think Republicans are actually going after abortion rights for them. Do you know how bad it would be for Republicans if they actually made abortion illegal? Every religion needs a devil. What happens to the religion when you’ve killed that devil? Oh, they’ll get to ride out the “Look what we did” for a decade or two. But eventually that tune will get old and conversation will turn to their behavior again, which is currently ignored because they’re fighting the devil, doing God’s work.

Who am I kidding? They’ll just make a new devil like they did with this one. The LGBT community, maybe. They’ll find a new endless battle to fight to keep the flock voting for them. But still, I think they would see an immediate hit overall. Pander too much to the fringe and you lose those in the middle.

Do you really believe that in another decade or two people will have the luxury for these sorts of frivolous worries?

You know I’m constantly hearing people talk about a couple decades down the line, or or half century, as though they imagine the world to be much as it is today?

I can’t fathom where the smug comfort comes from, I mean look at the physical planet that supplies all we depend on, and what we’ve done to that. Look at civil society in a time when coordinated focused action provides the only avenues for dealing the Harshening Climate Realities of the day, but instead our leaders are taking us to a Lord of Flies mentality, ‘I got mine and fuk you and yours.’

They really can’t see that right now on our physical planet changes are afoot will take us back to struggling for basic human needs, with all this fluff we’ve gotten addicted to and lost within, a fading memory?

I figure in two more decades today’s greed focused society will be a memory of a time long passed and greedy blind people who didn’t give a damned about the future. What a shame the future curses pointed in our direction can’t be transmitted back to us today. Might that make a difference? Probably not in a society where, me myself and I, seems to be all that matters anymore.

If someone believes I’m insane for stating that up there, may I ask if they know anything about evolution or the sweep of human history, or if they have paid any attention to the environmental degradation going on these past couple centuries, or the biosphere destruction that has gone ballistic during this past half century. Anyone really think that doesn’t matter and that we can ignore it the way we do?

 

 

Anyone really think that doesn’t matter and that we can ignore it the way we do?
If by "anyone" you mean any of the regular members here, pretty sure not. But by anyone, anyone, yes. Even if they don't really think it, there are a ton of people who want you to think those problems don't exist, that regulation is the problem. They want you to think that because there few remaining decades will be a lot easier if you think that. But knowing that motivation doesn't prove it is what they think. And since they use the very resources they exploited to obfuscate information, it's an uphill battle.

FYI, I unmoderated your post about the article. Nice to see it in print.