It’s official Russia played a big, perhaps decisive, role in electing Donald Trump President of the United States.
And citizens with a sense of history must realize our America, and not AmeriKa!, is in an existential crisis.
Who runs our country, mega-corporation oligarchs and Putin?
They sure as hell will be if we don’t get with it and demand some action from our spineless politicians.
IT IS OUR PATRIOTIC DUTY and plan old pragmatism TO HELP FORTIFY THOSE LIMP SPINES !
There are some brave politicians, they need our vocal support and encouragement, NOW !
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes
By DAVID E. SANGER and SCOTT SHANE \ DEC. 9, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html?_r=0
National Security
Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House
By Adam Entous, Ellen Nakashima and Greg Miller December 9 at 10:45 PM
The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.
Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.
“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected," said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view." ...
Obama orders full review of Russian hacking during the 2016 election
Brian Bennett and W.J. Bennigan
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-hacking-election-20161209-story.html
President Obama has ordered a full review of foreign-based digital attacks that U.S. intelligence agencies say were aimed at influencing this year’s presidential election, a top White House official said Friday.
The disclosure came after President-elect Donald Trump again dismissed a blunt U.S. intelligence assessment that concluded senior Russian authorities had authorized the digital theft of emails from Democratic Party officials and Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager during the campaign.
You bet Trump and his Alt-Right bullies will be screaming its rigged, its rigged, Russia would never do that.
But watch these:
Trump calls on Russia to hack and release Clinton's emails
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZFBB-MntE
CNN panel: Trump inviting Russia to hack Hillary Clinton is 'almost treasonous'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23zKmkVmlHk
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What’s your point? That Russia exposed a rigged DNC to help out Trump. Not one bit upset about the rigging going on at the DNC are you? If anything it shows the corruption of the DNC. It would be more logical if Russia was helping out Bernie Sanders than Trump. Sanders may have had a better chance against Trump. By James Bamford
National attention is focused on Russian eavesdroppers’ possible targeting of U.S. presidential candidates and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Yet, leaked top-secret National Security Agency documents show that the Obama administration has long been involved in major bugging operations against the election campaigns – and the presidents – of even its closest allies.
The United States is, by far, the world’s most aggressive nation when it comes to cyberspying and cyberwarfare. The National Security Agency has been eavesdropping on foreign cities, politicians, elections and entire countries since it first turned on its receivers in 1952. Just as other countries, including Russia, attempt to do to the United States. What is new is a country leaking the intercepts back to the public of the target nation through a middleperson.
There is a strange irony in this. Russia, if it is actually involved in the hacking of the computers of the Democratic National Committee, could be attempting to influence a U.S. election by leaking to the American public the falsehoods of its leaders. This is a tactic Washington used against the Soviet Union and other countries during the Cold War.
Today, the United States has morphed from a Cold War, and in some cases a hot war, into a cyberwar, with computer coding replacing bullets and bombs. Yet the American public manages to be “shocked, shocked" that a foreign country would attempt to conduct cyberespionage on the United States.
Mikie, what part of RUSSIAN OBLIGATE TRUMP don’t you grasp?
You article is totally irrelevant to what’s going on here - but that it requires a genuine patriotic love for America to full appreciate that.
But, then again consider what the mikies of our nation have decided is normal okay communication: Breitbart,
The Alt-Right does have more in common with Putin style fascism than anything American home grown.
I bet them and the Koch oligarch are just fine with merging with Russian - I hope most of America isn’t.
Tragically, in reality, most Americas is clueless and apathetic, coddled into thinking everyone else is responsible for keeping our democracy alive.
REJECT Trump the Russian Obligate - a national security threat
http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com/2016/12/reject-trump-russian-obligate-threat.html
It’s official Russia played a big role, quite probably the decisive role, in electing Donald Trump President of the United States (incidentally, by garnering 2.6 million less votes than Hillary Clinton despite various serious voter suppression actions by Republicans.)
Citizens with a sense of history must realize our America is experiencing a hostile take over attempt. Let’s get real, Putin is amoral and absolutely ruthless and he has set his sights on America - and Trump is his man.
The only ones standing between Putin and success are We The American People standing strong and demanding heroic action from our Democratic Representatives! - We need to flood our elected Representatives, give them the public support that strength’s those weak spines.
If you love your country and don’t think its half as bad a Trump is trying to brainwash us into believing - then it is your duty to get involved.
Remember Trump does not become President-Elect until after the Electoral College meets December 19th. The Electoral College system was put in place precisely for this kind of extreme circumstance, such as being defrauded on our election process.
Here’s What Has To Happen
Before December 19th
Roger Wolfson | 12/4/2016 | Attorney, writer
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Here’s some further evidence that Trump is intellectually, and mentally unfit to serve as President of the United States
Trump gets one presidential intelligence briefing a week
By Mark Hosenball | Washington DC | Dec 9, 2016 | 9:03am
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-briefings-idUSKBN13X2M9
(But the pig wants to continue as executive producer of his TV "Reality" Show -
Suppose all that is okay with mikes. :down: Jezz, the gullibility of the right wing is mind boggling)
I don’t believe anything just because the CIA says it. Doing so is not only a logical fallacy, it is foolishly naive after the CIA fed Colin Powell false intel which he shared with the United Nations when he declared Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was ready to deploy them. Show me the evidence, not testimony from professional deceivers.
Trump, Russia and the U.S. Election
By Eugene KielyPosted on December 8, 2016
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/12/trump-russia-u-s-election/
President-elect Donald Trump again discounted the possibility that Russia was behind the hacking of U.S. political organizations, including the Democratic National Committee’s servers, despite evidence to the contrary.
All 16 government intelligence agencies and at least three private security firms have independently investigated the security breaches and concluded that the Russian government — in the words of the U.S. Intelligence Community — “directed" the hacking “to interfere with the US election process."
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national
Trump made his statement during a Nov. 28 interview with Time magazine, which named the president-elect its “Person of the Year." In the interview, which the magazine posted to its website on Dec. 7, Trump said of Russia, “I don’t believe they interfered." Russia has denied any involvement.
The NSA Chief Says Russia Hacked the 2016 Election. Congress Must Investigate.
It's up to Capitol Hill to protect American democracy.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/will-congress-investigate-russian-interference-2016-campaign
DAVID CORNNOV. 16, 2016
Despite all the news being generated by the change of power underway in Washington, there is one story this week that deserves top priority: Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. On Tuesday, the director of the National Security Agency, Admiral Michael Rogers, was asked about the WikiLeaks release of hacked information during the campaign, and he said, "This was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect." He added, "This was not something that was done casually. This was not something that was done by chance. This was not a target that was selected purely arbitrarily."
This was a stunning statement that has echoed other remarks from senior US officials. He was saying that Russia directly intervened in the US election to obtain a desired end: presumably to undermine confidence in US elections or to elect Donald Trump—or both. Rogers was clearly accusing Vladimir Putin of meddling with American democracy. This is news worthy of bold and large front-page headlines—and investigation. Presumably intelligence and law enforcement agencies are robustly probing the hacking of political targets attributed to Russia. But there is another inquiry that is necessary: a full-fledged congressional investigation that holds public hearings and releases its findings to the citizenry.
If the FBI, CIA, and other intelligence agencies are digging into the Russian effort to affect US politics, there is no guarantee that what they uncover will be shared with the public. Intelligence investigations often remain secret for the obvious reasons: they involve classified information. And law enforcement investigations—which focus on whether crimes have been committed—are supposed to remain secret until they produce indictments. (And then only information pertinent to the prosecution of a case is released, though the feds might have collected much more.) The investigative activities of these agencies are not designed for public enlightenment or assurance. That's the job of Congress.
I don't believe anything just because the CIA says it. Doing so is not only a logical fallacy, it is foolishly naive after the CIA fed Colin Powell false intel which he shared with the United Nations when he declared Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was ready to deploy them. Show me the evidence, not testimony from professional deceivers.
I agree with you, Darron.
Let me add that this talk of Russia trying to influence an American election by hacking Hillary Clinton's or Democratic Party's emails is utterly foolish. It is an open secret that many countries spy on many other countries, and try to influence politics in other countries; what is the big deal about it? In fact, the USA has been doing a lot worse than that in the world, helping military dictators and criminals with weapons to unseat democratically elected governments.
Whether Trump is suitable for the position of the President of the USA or not is an entirely different topic.
He still hasn’t been voted President by the Electoral College this is a perfect reason for them to exercise their right to be “conscientious electors” and vote for the person they think would be right for the office. Even None of The Above would be preferable to a Russian puppet in the White House.
Nixon did the same thing in 1972 using the CIA, now Trump has done it using the f… Russian FSB. Why go through all the time and pain of an impeachment, we already know what a crook Trump is. And a sexual offender creep as well. This is the kind of freak you post warnings up when they move into your neighbourhood is there going to be a warning for people doing the White House tours to make sure they never let women and children be alone with Trump?
How the hell did America get to this point anyway, truly amazing.
He still hasn't been voted President by the Electoral College this is a perfect reason for them to exercise their right to be "conscientious electors" and vote for the person they think would be right for the office. Even None of The Above would be preferable to a Russian puppet in the White House.
Nixon did the same thing in 1972 using the CIA, now Trump has done it using the f....... Russian FSB. Why go through all the time and pain of an impeachment, we already know what a crook Trump is. And a sexual offender creep as well. This is the kind of freak you post warnings up when they move into your neighbourhood is there going to be a warning for people doing the White House tours to make sure they never let women and children be alone with Trump?
How the hell did America get to this point anyway, truly amazing.
'Russian puppet in the While House' is just about the most absurd phrase that I have heard in this political season. Even if Trump was helped by Russia for getting elected, the fact of the matter is that he will be the most powerful leader in the world when he is inaugurated as the President of the USA, the overwhelmingly most powerful nation on Earth, intellectually, economically and militarily. Why would he be a puppet of a second rated superpower?
The Russian help, if any, was after all through influencing the voters, not by any kind of force. And most voters of the USA are no fans of Russia, even when some of them have the sense that it would be better for the USA and for the world at large if the USA and Russia could work together.
Whether Trump is suitable for the position of the President of the USA or not is an entirely different topic.
Why wouldn't he be suitable Sam?
The POTUS is an Executive position. Trump is the quintessential executive.
He's already showing incredible aplomb.
The public's approval of him is steadily rising.
What doubts do you have about his suitability?
Obviously you aren't falling for the Russian puppet scheme...was there something else?
Great comments by the way. Like your even-keeled input into these heady topics. :-)
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I bet them and the Koch oligarch are just fine with merging with Russian - I hope most of America isn't.
I would not want to merge with Russia. Russia is to Christian, and maybe more of a Christian nation than America. It would create a huge Christian political power.
Mikie, what part of RUSSIAN OBLIGATE TRUMP don't you grasp?
Prove it.
You article is totally irrelevant to what's going on here - but that it requires a genuine patriotic love for America to full appreciate that.
[i]Today, the United States has morphed from a Cold War, and in some cases a hot war, into a cyberwar, with computer coding replacing bullets and bombs. Yet the American public manages to be“shocked, shocked"that a foreign country would attempt to conduct cyberespionage on the United States.
Whether Trump is suitable for the position of the President of the USA or not is an entirely different topic.
Why wouldn't he be suitable Sam?
The POTUS is an Executive position. Trump is the quintessential executive.
He's already showing incredible aplomb.
The public's approval of him is steadily rising.
What doubts do you have about his suitability?
Obviously you aren't falling for the Russian puppet scheme...was there something else?
Great comments by the way. Like your even-keeled input into these heady topics. :-)
Well, he surely has a very thin skin for a highly responsible and honorable position. His Access Hollywood video talk when he was 59 years old was too vulgar for someone who would be the President of the USA 11 years later. His 2016 presidential election campaign time demeanor such as mocking a disabled journalist was too poor for a candidate for that position.
Having said that, I think he is more liberal than the Republican Party, which is a plus for him. In terms of executive skills, patriotism, policy matters and overall aptitude, he is probable comparable to, or could prove to be better than, quite a few former presidents of the USA.
Having said that, I think he is more liberal than the Republican Party, which is a plus for him. In terms of executive skills, patriotism, policy matters and overall aptitude, he is probable comparable to, or could prove to be better than, quite a few former presidents of the USA.
Right. That's all that matters.
I noticed in another of your threads you mentioned the protective way in which the Washington Post covered the Ohio terrorist from Somalia.
That's just it. You can have neat and tidy perspectives in which all things are regarded as nice and politically correct..or you can have an outspoken
leader who isn't beholden to such constraints of thinking and speech.
There is a happy middle ground. And it lies somewhere between The WaPo's delicate handling of an islamic terrorist's image and Trump's
boorish, crude remarks.
Frankly, I lean towards Trump's remarks. They're far less harmful.
What Trump says is at least based on truth. The WaPo is just carrying out what the rest of the Western media is doing.
Trying desperately to downplay the ugly truths of islamic jihadism, and large scale economic migration..to name few.
Another example of Trumpeters disconnect from reality
Pew poll: Trump's approval lower than previous incoming presidents
By Eric Bradner, CNN
Updated 5:32 AM ET, Fri December 9, 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/08/politics/donald-trump-approval-ratings-pew-poll-transition/
The ‘reality gap’ poses real political challenges
11/20/15 09:20 AM—UPDATED 11/20/15 01:35 PM
By Steve Benen
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-reality-gap-poses-real-political-challenges
'Russian puppet in the While House' is just about the most absurd phrase that I have heard in this political season. Even if Trump was helped by Russia for getting elected, the fact of the matter is that he will be the most powerful leader in the world when he is inaugurated as the President of the USA, the overwhelmingly most powerful nation on Earth, intellectually, economically and militarily. Why would he be a puppet of a second rated superpower?
The Russian help, if any, was after all through influencing the voters, not by any kind of force. And most voters of the USA are no fans of Russia, even when some of them have the sense that it would be better for the USA and for the world at large if the USA and Russia could work together.
I was curious how Shirreff envisioned his plot unfolding with President Trump leading the United States rather than the fictional President Lynn Turner Dillon, a “tough businesswoman" with “highlighted blonde hair" who Shirreff insists is not modeled on Hillary Clinton (or a Clinton-Trump hybrid, for that matter). On the one hand, Trump, like Shirreff, is trying to pressure European NATO members to spend more money on defense and rely less on America’s military might. On the other hand, Trump is expressing the very reluctance to defend fellow NATO members that so frightens Shirreff. I was also curious whether Shirreff felt Trump’s position on NATO was as radical and reckless as Trump’s critics claim.
“NATO depends totally on American leadership and American willingness to come to the aid of allies unconditionally," he told me. “Therefore, to have a president in the White House who is not necessarily prepared to do that weakens the alliance immeasurably and may well lead to [the] decoupling of America from European defense." Such an outcome, he argued, is bad not only for Europe, but also for America. As NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg put it following the publication of Trump’s comments, “Two world wars have shown that peace in Europe is also important for the security of the United States."
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37303057
The Republican presidential nominee told the forum the Russian president "has been a leader far more than our president [Obama] has been".
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
I'm pretty sure that a American politician who thinks that walking away from NATO in the event of a Russian attack on our allies, who thinks Putin - who is one of the most corrupt and bloodstained leaders of modern times - is a better leader than a democratically elected US President and who also asked the Russian state to hack his opponents in this recent election more than qualifies for the title of "Putin's little Plaything".
The Russians influence on this last election was to keep a non-story about Hillary Clinton emails front and center to divert many voters from who exactly was running against her. Not only were they doing that they were also engaging in hostile actions against US military units to provoke fear in the US in the lead-up to the election with the participation of other nutjob regimes on the planet like Iran and North Korea who were doing the same.
What does it say when Putin, Kim Jong-il and the Iranian Revolutionary Council got their pick to head the USA, anyone who thinks this is going to end well is insane.
Can you give me one good reason that the United States needs to be in NATO for? Russia and the US are in space together. Russia’s major trading partners are Germany, Italy, China, Turkey, Poland, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States, and Finland. Russia provides most of the needs of the CIS countries in oil and oil products, gas, timber, machinery and equipment. The more we trade and interact with Russia the better it is for the Commonwealth of Independent States and peace in the world.
The Republican presidential nominee told the forum the Russian president "has been a leader far more than our president [Obama] has been".
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
I'm pretty sure that a American politician who thinks that walking away from NATO in the event of a Russian attack on our allies, who thinks Putin - who is one of the most corrupt and bloodstained leaders of modern times - is a better leader than a democratically elected US President and who also asked the Russian state to hack his opponents in this recent election more than qualifies for the title of "Putin's little Plaything".
The Russians influence on this last election was to keep a non-story about Hillary Clinton emails front and center to divert many voters from who exactly was running against her. Not only were they doing that they were also engaging in hostile actions against US military units to provoke fear in the US in the lead-up to the election with the participation of other nutjob regimes on the planet like Iran and North Korea who were doing the same.
What does it say when Putin, Kim Jong-il and the Iranian Revolutionary Council got their pick to head the USA, anyone who thinks this is going to end well is insane.
I do not see a logical basis to think that Trump would be a Russian-obligate president of the USA. No US president would need to be an obligate of any country but the USA any time soon; although big money interests have made many US presidents over the years too nice to nations that did not deserve it.
The POTUS is an Executive position. Trump is the quintessential executive.
News flash: governments are not businesses. Trump's business operating procedures are a separate topic.
He's already showing incredible aplomb.
Lashing out at critics is petulance, not aplomb.
The public's approval of him is steadily rising.
Argumentum ad populum
What doubts do you have about his suitability?
If his other cabinet nominations weren't enough to worry you, he just announced the CEO of Exxon Mobil as his Secretary of State. Can you say "conflict of interest"? This is the guy who will be negotiating climate mitigation treaties and deciding on the Keystone XL pipeline.
'Russian puppet in the While House' is just about the most absurd phrase that I have heard in this political season. Even if Trump was helped by Russia for getting elected, the fact of the matter is that he will be the most powerful leader in the world when he is inaugurated as the President of the USA, the overwhelmingly most powerful nation on Earth, intellectually, economically and militarily. Why would he be a puppet of a second rated superpower?
The Russian help, if any, was after all through influencing the voters, not by any kind of force. And most voters of the USA are no fans of Russia, even when some of them have the sense that it would be better for the USA and for the world at large if the USA and Russia could work together.
I was curious how Shirreff envisioned his plot unfolding with President Trump leading the United States rather than the fictional President Lynn Turner Dillon, a “tough businesswoman" with “highlighted blonde hair" who Shirreff insists is not modeled on Hillary Clinton (or a Clinton-Trump hybrid, for that matter). On the one hand, Trump, like Shirreff, is trying to pressure European NATO members to spend more money on defense and rely less on America’s military might. On the other hand, Trump is expressing the very reluctance to defend fellow NATO members that so frightens Shirreff. I was also curious whether Shirreff felt Trump’s position on NATO was as radical and reckless as Trump’s critics claim.
“NATO depends totally on American leadership and American willingness to come to the aid of allies unconditionally," he told me. “Therefore, to have a president in the White House who is not necessarily prepared to do that weakens the alliance immeasurably and may well lead to [the] decoupling of America from European defense." Such an outcome, he argued, is bad not only for Europe, but also for America. As NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg put it following the publication of Trump’s comments, “Two world wars have shown that peace in Europe is also important for the security of the United States."
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37303057
The Republican presidential nominee told the forum the Russian president "has been a leader far more than our president [Obama] has been".
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
I'm pretty sure that a American politician who thinks that walking away from NATO in the event of a Russian attack on our allies, who thinks Putin - who is one of the most corrupt and bloodstained leaders of modern times - is a better leader than a democratically elected US President and who also asked the Russian state to hack his opponents in this recent election more than qualifies for the title of "Putin's little Plaything".
The Russians influence on this last election was to keep a non-story about Hillary Clinton emails front and center to divert many voters from who exactly was running against her. Not only were they doing that they were also engaging in hostile actions against US military units to provoke fear in the US in the lead-up to the election with the participation of other nutjob regimes on the planet like Iran and North Korea who were doing the same.
What does it say when Putin, Kim Jong-il and the Iranian Revolutionary Council got their pick to head the USA, anyone who thinks this is going to end well is insane.
Can you give me one good reason that the United States needs to be in NATO for? Russia and the US are in space together. Russia’s major trading partners are Germany, Italy, China, Turkey, Poland, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States, and Finland. Russia provides most of the needs of the CIS countries in oil and oil products, gas, timber, machinery and equipment. The more we trade and interact with Russia the better it is for the Commonwealth of Independent States and peace in the world.
What a load of complete bullshit, Putin is rebuilding the Soviet Empire like the good little KGB fanatic he is.
In case you missed it there is no freedom of choice in Russia, Putin is in charge for life and is likely the most wealthy man on the planet after looting the nation. He's also engaged in violent expansion of his state and just used force to annex Crimea and has Russian forces fighting in Ukraine to take the rest of the country. Every indication is that the Baltic states are next and given his endless hunger for more I seriously doubt it will stop there.
Let's not forget all the bloodshed and brutality that he created in Chechnya to elevate himself to the position of undisputed ruler of Russia in the first place.
This is 1933 all over again and Trump sure as fuck isn't Roosevelt...