We were hacked by Russia, everyone should be concerned about that.
Why?
I don’t think it needs explanation. Why not?
I think it does. Why?
I don’t know why you think it does.
I am more concerned about, if we were really hacked by the Russian. Their confidence level is in the sewer. It is known that counterintelligence is a skill of the sisters Mueller is using. It is looking like the meeting with Russian agents in London were really US spies and not Russian agents at all. Mueller is not wanting to be questioned about the report. That should tell us something. We really need to investigate the investigators.
So, no! I am not concerned about Russia. I am concerned about the swamp. Answer this. Did America just experience a coup attempt on a sitting president? If the answer is yes, then most likely for sometime to come we will be fed a steady diet of misdirection.
Why is exposing potential criminal activity a coup attempt?
No Russian connection you say?
Of course what would it mean if we have a Russian Obligate President who acts and speaks like a puppet of our number one enemy (according to everything we’ve been told all our lives) Russer, you know Putin’s lap dog and all that, plenty of examples of that out there. Hell now suddenly Korean missile tests are no big deal, nothing weird about that. - What if that president gets exposed and then thrown out of office. Would that really be a coup? What a coup against Putin?
And what happens as his money laundering and business frauds work their way through he court system constantly exposing more the naked emperor?
That’s criminal - a coup against a criminal, imagine such a thing.
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Back to Mueller, Rachel offers a pretty good appraisal of what Mueller short announcement means.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIl8SRswOn8MSNBC
Published on May 29, 2019Rachel Maddow looks at Robert Mueller’s remarks about his investigation and report in which he made clear that he was prevented from prosecuting Donald Trump by DOJ policy, making it the duty of Congress to adjudicate the facts Mueller’s team gathered and hold Donald Trump accountable to the law.
Now we’ll see how the limp noodle Democrats engage.
Looks like citizen wants to go to war with russia
Answer this. Did America just experience a coup attempt on a sitting president? – Mike
Mike, you have bought the whole Trump narrative. Read the report.
Player, many countries want our stuff. Should we let them have it?
CC - “potential criminal activity” – isn’t that called fishing. Isn’t that what the Democrats are doing in DC, fishing instead of working?
Lausten – I am done with Mueller. Let’s hope that Barr will give us better insight.
Lausten you take other people’s “stuff”
Obstruction of process that found no evidence of collusion. Makes great sense
What makes you think I want to go to war with Russia?
Player, you’re not making sense. Obstruction of an Investigation. What part of that don’t you understand?
As for collusion:
Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusionby Ryan Goodman | April 29, 2019
https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/
I. Summary of Major Findings
The redacted Mueller Report documents a series of activities that show strong evidence of collusion. Or, more precisely, it provides significant evidence that Trump Campaign associates coordinated with, cooperated with, encouraged, or gave support to the Russia/WikiLeaks election interference activities. The Report documents the following actions (each of which is analyzed in detail in Part II):
Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advanceDeripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.
During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.
During the course of 2016, Trump Campaign associates failed to report any of the Russian/WikiLeaks overtures to federal law enforcement, publicly denied any contacts with Russians/WikiLeaks, and actively encouraged the public to doubt that Russia was behind the hacking and distribution of stolen emails.
APRIL 30, 2019 TRUMP’S RUSSIA COVER-UP BY THE NUMBERS – 251 CONTACTS WITH RUSSIA-LINKED OPERATIVES…
Below is a comprehensive chronological list of the contacts that have been discovered to date and some of the many lies Trump’s campaign, transition team, and White House told to hide them.
Extensive reporting, subsequent admissions, and special counsel Mueller’s indictments and report have revealed at least 251 contacts between the Trump team and Russia-linked operatives, despite repeated denials. Among these contacts were 37 meetings (which include Skype calls), which are highlighted below.
July 22, 2015: …
So are we supposed to pretend that none of this is real?
Here are 18 reasons Trump could be a Russian asset
By Max Boot | January 13, 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/here-are-18-reasons-why-trump-could-be-a-russian-asset/2019/01/13/45b1b250-174f-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html
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Donald Trump’s Pattern of Deference to the Kremlin Is Clear
Now it’s on the president to explain his posture.
DAVID A. GRAHAM | JAN 15, 2019
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/trump-russia-putin-burden/580477/
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PUTIN’S PAYOUT: 12 WAYS TRUMP HAS SUPPORTED PUTIN’S FOREIGN POLICY AGENDA
BY MAX BERGMANN, JAMES LAMOND, AND TALIA DESSEL \ JULY 10, 2018
https://themoscowproject.org/reports/putins-payout-10-ways-trump-has-supported-putins-foreign-policy-agenda/
Trump Ended 2018 by Rewarding Putin for Another Year of Bad Behavior
By Heather Hurlburt | DEC. 31, 2018
All of Trump’s Russian Ties, in 7 Charts
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
Michael Crowley is senior foreign affairs correspondent for Politico.
citizen - a russian asset now??? Is he also an Israeli asset?
Lausten you take other people’s “stuff”
Player, you kinda made a good point. Congratulations.
Mueller’s statement, in a nutshell, was yeah the Russians messed with us big time, we need to do something about it. Also, the investigation was NEVER going to indict the POTUS nor say that there was sufficient evidence for indictment, not even explicitly refer the case, no matter how much damning evidence against the POTUS they found. Mueller said that the DOJ policy considered it to be unconstitutional to do so. Also, he repeated that the investigation would have said so IF they had evidence that the POTUS DID NOT obstruct justice.
IOW there was NEVER any danger to Trump that he would be charged of anything criminal by the Mueller investigation even if he had personally shot an anti-Putin Russian dissident on 5th Ave, while shouting Viva Putin! Viva Russia! Trump would not have been indicted by the Mueller investigation.
Furthermore, on the Russian interference: Acknowledging the reality of what the Russians did, and are doing, here and in other countries to interfere with and undermine democracies is the only sane course. It does not mean that we are going to military war with Russia, if we don’t just stick our heads in the sand and let them continue to rape us.