Putin underestimates Ukrainian toughness, resourcefulness, humor

The poll says differently. Where is the poll on those fleeing?

So you are in Russia? I don’t think opinions have changed much. Many people in Russia don’t like Putin and the Ukrainians want to keep their country. I doubt that opinion will change, any more than my opinion of the criminal I call The dotard.

I doubt the numbers are insignificant.

To be clear, i have never argued that there are not americans who are against this war, against NATO, against the massive US military. Clearly, there is a spectrum of opinions. This forum is for expressing opinions and backing them up with reasons. No one is obligated to respond every news item out there. It’s a complex and fluid issue. Claims of certainty are just silly.

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The opinions here all support NATO to enter the conflict. Such articles as i refer to above were never published in western media until now. Something has changed. Reality

I don’t see why it matters that a few people here disagree with you.

The Levada data has been published regularly since March.

Quotes:

“Among young people, support for the war is significantly lower, according to the study. In the 18-to-24 age group, 29 percent indicated they back the war, while 39 percent were opposed. Peak support for the war, at 75 percent, was among respondents age 66 and older.”

" Truth is difficult to find. Some of the few remaining independent news outlets in Russia have shuttered or suspended operations, and the Kremlin has restricted foreign websites and completely blocked Facebook. A “fake news” law that Putin signed Friday criminalizes contradiction of the official Kremlin line. Merely describing the war as such could lead to a 15-year jail sentence, posing obvious challenges for those seeking to conduct accurate polls there."

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The opinions here are all in support of Russia getting out of Ukraine.

Reality is that Russia is a threat to Europe. This is why European countries ask for membership in NATO (a defensive coalition) to be protected from Russia’s agression and hunger for expanding territory, instead of developing its own resources in their largest territory on earth.

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Thats not the newsweek article

Yes thats a true statement. Whatever it takes , everything on the table to get this done

I am glad we agree on this. Do you believe Russia has the right to invade and take Ukraine? If so, why?

Might makes Right?

Yes we agree that opinions here have no qualms with a nuclear war

Oh come on. Just quit with the baiting. That’s me speaking as moderator. No more warmings.

He just agreed to whatever it takes. And i dont see you challenging this. The point being hammered home by the newsweek article

Now you are putting words in our mouths. That’s not what we said. None of us said that, but we do believe Russia needs to get out of the Ukraine, like yesterday. Actually several months ago and never should have invaded the Ukraine.

So put the cards on the table. How far do you want to take this conflict?

The conflict you’re displaying here or Putin’s war? I can think of a number of ways to stop Putin - none of them I actually approve, but I am beginning to think my grandfather was right that we should have gone after to Russia after we defeated Japan and Germany. However, as the medic who decided who could be saved and who could not, I doubt his brother (my great uncle) could have taken much more- psychologically, given his “shellshock” now called PTSD.

Would one you would not approve be nuclear war? Which ways would you approve?

I would not approve of nuclear war for a numerous reasons. However, though I don’t approve, is to go after him like he were Stalin or Hitler, which he is up there with Stalin, IMO. Only without nooks.

Given that Putin refuses to have peace talks, and refuses to get out of the Ukraine on his own, there are no other ideas I do approve of.

So, I’m not the only one who thinks you did that @doofdoof1

AND WHO IS THREATENING NUCLEAR WAR?