Political Optics

It is truly shameful, but consider that Trump came in through the back door of the “electoral college”. In reality he lost the popular vote by 3 000 000 votes to Hillary Clinton.

Note that sparsely populated states have the same electoral vote as states with 10 x the population.

The electoral college system signed sealed and delivered to the people of the united states by the Democrats and Republicans

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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You don’t know what the electoral college is and why it was instituted, do you?
Let me enlighten your understanding of US politics.

Those who support the Electoral College say:

  • The current process protects state’s rights. The US is, after all, a republic of states, and each one should be able to apportion its electorates as it sees fit

And, the Electoral College keeps high population states and regions from deciding the presidency. Without the Electoral College, a huge popular margin in one state (like California or Texas) could decide an entire election.

Those who would prefer elections be determined by the popular vote say:

  • It’s possible that the winner may not receive the most popular votes. This has [happened five times]

(List of United States presidential elections in which the winner lost the popular vote - Wikipedia).

  • Also, that under the Electoral system, some votes count more than others. For instance, in 2012 there were less than 200,000 people per electoral vote in Wyoming, but more than 700,000 people per electoral vote in Texas.
  • And finally, that the Electoral system causes presidential campaigns to focus on swing states, such as Florida and Ohio, and largely ignore the others (who, in some cases, make up a majority country’s population)

The Electoral College system has actually been changed three times, via the 12th, 20th, and 23rd Amendments. It would take another to do away with the system altogether

Sorry - im not the one complaining about it. The popular vote means peanuts with what you have in place

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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Actually, you are doing all the complaining. Try to balance your “impartial” observations.

He came he saw he won thanks to electoral college system.

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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Yes, he came in through the back door, like a thief in the night.

Whats backdoor about winning the 2016 elections ? The loser claiming the winner is a thief and stole the election? Where have i heard that before?

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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No , Hillary Clinton graciously conceded the results, unlike Trump who still claims he was being robbed, whereas he lost to Biden by 7 000 000 votes and the electoral college.

You said he was a thief !!! Are you referring to the 2016 elections or do you have inside information on his shopping habits??

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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No I did not. I said “like a thief in the night”, an old expression . I did say he came in “through the back door” i.e lost the popular vote but won the electoral college.

You will need to read closer , you are reading only what you want to see. Try to be a little more objective if you really want to discuss international politics and the big players in that game.

The back door is the front door as winning the electoral college is the only path to election victory and saying like a thief means is a thief. You cant accept the result.

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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By “backdoor” I meant the electoral college without the popular vote.

Only 5 presidents have ever won that way.

You cant accept the result. Quite remarkable when you cry foul of others who cant accept the 2020 election results.

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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Why would you flag his post? CC wasn’t saying loveisnotenough was ignorant, but rather the comment and quite frankly, we do discuss more than just the dotard around here.

Three.

You sound like RFK Jr, who is not only trying to run for president, but is also spread propaganda. If you look at CFI’s mission, it says, " OUR MISSION


The Center for Inquiry strives to foster a secular society based on reason, science, freedom of inquiry, and humanist values." https://centerforinquiry.org/about/ That means, your views don’t fit that agenda and if that agenda is far left, in which there is no such thing as a “far left”, then maybe you need to find another forum that fits your views better. The only reason that there appears to be a “far left” is because the right has moved so far to the right that they make it look as though there is. I have to get ready for work, but after work, I’ll hopefully find the video (I think Robert Reich explained it) in which this is explained.

Have you looked in the areas of the forum? I think you’ll find more topics than just those about the dotard. It seems to me you’re only looking in the political section (this section). However, if you thinking about politics alone, then we can talk about the propaganda spreading JFK Jr, who is nothing like his father, yet is running for president, spreading lies about vaccines, science, etc. Start the thread and people will discuss his stupidity and how unlike his father he is.

Oh good grief. I haven’t been receiving updates and trying to catch up on things and this is the most ridiculous things I’ve seen so far. A troll attempting to turn the tables and gaslight members. Gaslighting is also a violation of the rules, but I’m not giving you an official warning… yet. In part because you have moved on.

As for other options, there are plenty of options for voting in the U.S. It is a misconception that the U.S. is a two party country. It’s also a misconception that young people don’t vote and are disillusioned with Biden. More on that after I get back from work tonight.

Actually it was the Russian and extreme right winger Bannon and their pals :slight_smile:

I dont understand the logic of someone in saying that there is far right but there is no such thing as far left. The Democrats sure arent left.

RFK has lots of other views besides vaccines if you are interested and up for a discussion.

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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This might help:


Is that supposed to justify Mr. trump’s destructive traitorous behavior?
It shows that the Democratic movers can be real idiots. We Democrats already know this all too well. Still whataboutism is bull kacke.

Lets bring it back to the most important Political Optics game going on today.

@loveisenough just plays with words. I don’t know why anyone is talking to them. It’s like a conversation from Middle School.