Just realized I believe in an alternative medicine

I can’t believe that I’ve had this belief for years and never realized it. Hell, I was spouting about it just a couple of weeks ago. In my defense, however, this particular alternative medicine is scientifically proven to work 100% of the time. It’s essentially, “Oh well. I guess it will go away when I’m dead”. Okay, I’m not really sure that counts as an “alternative medicine”, but it is an alternative to medicine.

Nah. Death is only a placebo. Whatever disease or condition you have will still be there, only you won’t feel it.

If death cured all, autopsies would only find corpses in perfect health (other than being dead.)

Actually, now that I think of it, it might cure insomnia.

Are you telling me that dead people have chronic pain? Or flu symptoms? Memory problems? No, I think it’s a cure all.

That’s just it, cadavers have all the problems but don’t feel the pain. You still have clogged arteries, cancer, Ebola, kidney disease, psoriasis, broken bones, rickets, etc. when you’re dead.

If death cured your problems how could an autopsy determine cause of death?

Death is the ultimate painkiller, solving none of your problems and preventing you from ever getting better.

But I guess painkillers are part of healthcare, so I guess I also consider death a form of alternative medicine!


It may not “cure” all of your problems, but it definitely makes you asymptomatic.

Death, huh? I think I would prefer to try medicinal marijuana first.

“Death, huh? I think I would prefer to try medicinal marijuana first.”

Ya. MJ is legal in Canada and there’s a shop in our town that’s only four blocks from my house, so it would be an easy option for me.

Death is addictive and it’s really hard to break the habit, so I’d only use that as a last resort.

Party on, 3point. There will be plenty of time to try death, later.

I’m not saying I’m going to rush out and get me some or anything. But I figure I’ll try it eventually.

Of all psychoactive drugs marijuana is the least harmful or addictive of all other drugs. The classification of MJ as a schedule I drug such as opioids with no medical benefits is false to begin with. However, it does have more useful commercial properties than any other crop.

The active ingredient in MJ is cannabinol which is not a physically addictive opiod.

Exposed: The Full Story Behind Why Marijuana Is Illegal & Classified As A Schedule 1 Drug

In 1913, Henry Ford opened his famous automobile assembly line to start producing the Model-T. In the 30’s, Ford opened a plant in Michigan where they successfully experimented with biomass fuel conversion, proving that hemp could be used as an alternative to fossil fuels. They extracted methanol, charcoal fuel, tar, pitch ethyl-acetate, and creosote all from hemp. What this meant for Ford was that he could now not only produce their own raw materials to make cars, but he could make the fuel to run them as well. The discovery was horrible news for a man by the name of Andrew Melon, who owned much of the Gulf Oil Corporation; a company who had just recently opened their first drive through gas station.

Andrew Mellon was the Secretary of the Treasury under President Herbert Hoover, and owner of the 6th largest bank at the time, Mellon Bank. His bank was the primary financial support of a petrochemical company by the name of DuPont. DuPont was developing and patenting many different forms of synthetics from fossil fuels including the synthetic rubber, plastic, rayon, and paint that GM used to coat their cars. However, Mellon Bank was most heavily invested in DuPont’s sulfur-based process of turning wood fiber into usable paper.


IMO, the Hemp plant in all its forms is the most benign and useful plant on earth. It can yield hundreds of commercial products from paper to cloth, from building bricks to fuel.

It is a ecological boon to farming and the atmosphere. It is soil fixer and a much more effective carbon scrubber than trees. 1 acre of hemp extracts the same amount of carbon from the atmosphere as 20 acres of trees.


I heard on the news, that recently a truck was impounded and the driver arrested, in what the cops thought was a MAJOR pot bust. But it turns out that it was just hemp, which is now legal in that state. Hemp has negligible amounts of THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) which is the psychoactive part of Marijuana.

Marijuana (with THC) I believe, can technically be addictive, for some ppl, but is much less addictive or damaging than tobacco, or alcohol, for example.

I don’t see how hemp could be addictive.

Death, otoh, is not technically addictive. You don’t need more of it to get the same effect a next time. Because, typically, it is one and done. You are never going to be more dead than you were the 1st time, except in those rare instances in which someone comes back from being dead for a short period.

Death, otoh, is not technically addictive.
I don't know. I haven't ever heard of anyone recovering from it after more than a few minutes. So, if you can't get off it, technically....

You cannot be addicted to an irreversible one time event such as death. Near death, perhaps, but permanent death cannot be a desired repetition.


Addiction is a brain disorder characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli despite adverse consequences.[9] Despite the involvement of a number of psychosocial factors, a biological process—one which is induced by repeated exposure to an addictive stimulus—is the core pathology that drives the development and maintenance of an addiction.[3][10] The two properties that characterize all addictive stimuli are that they are reinforcing (i.e., they increase the likelihood that a person will seek repeated exposure to them) and intrinsically rewarding (i.e., they are perceived as being inherently positive, desirable, and pleasurable).

Obviously not psychologically addicted. But maybe it’s a physical addiction. But of course I’m just arguing this point in a light hearted way and have been all along. I don’t really believe death equates to some sort of addiction.

Ha! Don’t worry. That’s the good thing about this place- I know you’re all smart and any silly comments are all in fun.

Hopefully you all know the same thing about me.

Widdershins said,

Obviously not psychologically addicted. But maybe it’s a physical addiction

Well, you have that exactly backward. Opioids are physically addictive, that is why they are classified as a schedule I drug.

Marijuana does not contain opioids, it has “cannabinoids”, which are not physically addictive and not psychologically addictive except to people who have addictive personalities to begin with. But these people can become addicted to sugar, chocolate, coffee, tea, and a host of other 'pleasurable substances".

Cannabis is not physically active or addictive! It is a mental stimulant and makes you “think”. In case of an overdose, the subject merely goes to sleep.

There are no recorded instances of anyone dying from a fatal dose of marijuana alone.

Think about that. We are in the midst of a physical opioid addiction crisis, but here we are talking about the wrong drug.

Marijuana is NOT physically addictive! In fact, taken responsibly marijuana has certain “proven” health benefits.


It was death I was saying was physically addictive.

I have never tried marijuana (short of a couple of run-ins with ditch weed as a kid), or any drug for that matter (except opioid pain killers once. They did nothing to me but dull the pain). So I’m not exactly speaking from a position of knowledge or anything. But everything I’ve seen said, except for the part where you’re inhaling smoke (or vaping, these days) it’s less addictive and less destructive than alcohol. And there are people so convinced of its medical benefits that I have seen parents willing to go to prison to get their child CBD oil, with NO THC in it, because they were that sure that it reduced symptoms from chemotherapy. It is just sick that parents have to risk prison time to give their kid a substance not known to have any negative affects to alleviate his suffering.

In over 40 years of research NOT ONE instance had ever been documented of ANY serious marijuana side effects. And people were really trying hard to find something. But the MOMENT it became legal a couple of quacks came out with bullshit links to negative affects. One guy committed suicide and had THC in his blood and some idiot doctor claimed a definitive link between the two on that anecdotal evidence. Another guy killed someone after consuming an edible and claimed it made him hallucinate or some shit, which isn’t even remotely possible from THC as far as I’ve ever heard. Some quack got behind that.

I have personally seen one side effect, though. But it may not be marijuana specific because I’ve seen the same effect with vaping. That is a complete inability to do simple math. I’ve had a few pothead friends in my time (not one single violent one, ever, interestingly) and one claimed that it was cheaper than smoking. I asked him how much it cost him to pack a bowl. It was about the same as a pack of cigarettes, so he conceded that it was at least no more expensive than smoking. Then I asked him how many bowls he packed in a day and he conceded that it was considerably more expensive than smoking. But, except for this one lapse in judgement he is one of the smartest guys I’ve ever known. And to be fair I once had a vape-dude tell me that vaping was 80% cheaper than smoking as he was preaching the gospel of vaping only to later have him say that the juice he used in a day was the same price as a pack of cigarettes. Then there was electricity, maintenance, $5 coils once a week. the initial $100+ investment, etc. He, however, got defensive when I pointed out that his math was way, way off and it really cost more than smoking, not the 20% he had originally claimed.

Anecdotally from past experience I can report that being high on pot adversely effected my ability to play chess as well as when not high.

You are in an altered state of consciousness when you are high. Have you heard of the concept of “state dependent learning”? Studies showed that on performance tasks, the state of consciousness you were in when you learned the task, is a MAJOR factor in performance of the task. So, it is quite possible, that if I had learned and always played chess, when high, then I would not do as well, playing chess, when not high. By the same token, if you always cram for a test while under the influence of high doses of caffeine, you should take the test while on a high dose of caffeine.