Free Food, Free Speech and Free of Police: Inside Seattle's 'Autonomous Zone'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/free-food-free-speech-free-121901153.html

Protesters creating a section free of Police and making it crime-free is a great idea. Every city should have at least one squared off mile where there crime doesn’t exist because nothing you do within that zone is a crime. I say we call it something catchy like “The Purge”!

In “The Purge” movies, people are killing other people willy nilly, a high body count for the amusement of those who watch such movies.

In Seattle there doesn’t seem to be killing going on in that area. Although, when the T rump gets his way and gets his rocks off by having Tin Soldiers clear the protestors out, in the name of DOMINATING LAW AND ORDER, he might get some body count going.

I also will not be surprised if some Bugaloo Bois, or similar types, infiltrate the peaceful protest and make it not so peaceful anymore.

Blocking off areas where police won’t get involved will essentially create an area without law. Who would be the enforcers if anything were to happen in those areas? Yes, now it’s all peace and love when everyone’s holding hands singing the joyous praise of how we’re all one race, but this will die off and the lawless area will be a breeding ground for crime. I say cut to the chase and start selling weapons at the Autozone.

C’mon. Did “Occupy Wallstreet” devolve into a killing zone?

The only reason, that I see that this group would, is if the alt right infiltrates, gets violence going, and then the T rump brings in his Tin Soldiers to show off his DOMINATION LAW AND ORDER skills.

Protesters creating a section free of Police and making it crime-free is a great idea. Every city should have at least one squared off mile where there crime doesn’t exist because nothing you do within that zone is a crime. I say we call it something catchy like “The Purge”!
Haha, that's funny. But it can only happen in a place like Seattle. Or maybe Portland. The city is so White and so liberal that this is practically inevitable.

The autonomous republic of SWPL.

You have a strange sense of humor, Oneguy.

Did you see the video of the Chimp with the AK47? Now THAT was funny.

… it can only happen in a place like Seattle. Or maybe Portland. The city is so White and so liberal that this is practically inevitable.
A history lesson:

On Oregon. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregons-founders-sought-a-white-utopia-a-stain-of-racism-that-lives-on-even-as-state-celebrates-its-progressivism/ar-BB15sXQ1?ocid=spartanntp

Oregon became a state in 1859 as the United States was hurtling toward civil war. Slavery, the issue that was tearing the young nation apart, was banned in the new state. Many of Oregon’s leaders believed they had a better model.

They wouldn’t allow black people at all.


You would have fit right in, in Oregon in those days, Oneguy.

… Oregon is also one of the whitest states in the country -- originally by design. The effects of that history of racism are still felt today.

The authors of Oregon’s constitution declared that no “free negro or mulatto … shall come, reside or be within this State, or hold any real estate.”

The state’s founders sought to create nothing short of “a white utopia,” says Oregon author and scholar Walidah Imarisha. “An idealized racist white society.”


It wasn’t just blacks they sought to keep out, but pretty much all who were not white. So that sort of thing continued on from 1859 to the early 1920’s when the KKK was rampant in Oregon.

After WWII, the white supremacist view declined in Oregon. However,

… Progressive white Americans might reject racism and insist there’s no place for it in today’s society, but that doesn’t mean they want to give up the advantages it’s provided them. Institutionalized racism created intergenerational wealth for some and not others; it shaped the geography of the cities and towns we traverse every day.

… recent events – such as Jeremy Christian’s 2017 racism-sparked murder of two men on a MAX train in Portland – show that the echoes from the past can still pack a very real wallop.

Imarisha says we’re all taught that society heads in only one direction – forward, embracing progress – but that “it’s important to show the cyclical nature of history. At best history is a spiral.”

When we look around and find ourselves thinking, “We’ve been here before,” she says, it’s “because we have.”
That’s why, she insists, reforming the system – governmental, corporate, cultural – isn’t enough.

“We’ve been offered ‘kinder, gentler’ reform [in the past] and it’s landed us in the same place,” Imarisha says. “We need deep, institutional, transformational change.”

 

I’m not keen on the KKK pictures and not sure if they were necessary, but it let it pass with them intacted.

I think that remembering the power of the KKK in early 2oth century America, is critical in these times. Sure it’s ugly. But it really happened. Denying or forgetting that it happened and averting our eyes, is a big part of the problem, imo.

Like the historical scholar said

"we’re all taught that society heads in only one direction — forward, embracing progress — but that “it’s important to show the cyclical nature of history. At best history is a spiral.”

When we look around and find ourselves thinking, “We’ve been here before,” she says, it’s “because we have.”


One has to know history in order to possibly avoid repeating it. Those are real pictures representing a real part of our history.

 

 

Here are some other historical pictures of neo fascist types from the old days (less than 2 years ago).

This was in a place called Charlottesville, August 2017, where one of these fascist/white supremacists murdered an antifascist demonstrator, and the DOTUS proclaimed that there were “Very fine people… on both sides.” (meaning very fine fascists as well as antifascists.)

History tends to rhyme over time. It goes in a spiral. We must not forget.

@mrianaKeymaster I’m not keen on the KKK pictures and not sure if they were necessary, but it let it pass with them intacted.
I absolutely hate what you said here. If your job as moderator is here to protect people from (to be honest) mildly disturbing sites. The only issue I see here is that he didn’t give his sources so we’re all to assume that what he said is 100% factual. Don’t just post pictures and give the story without giving the source of the story.
@mrianaKeymaster I’m not keen on the KKK pictures and not sure if they were necessary, but it let it pass with them intacted.
I absolutely hate what you said here. If your job as moderator is here to protect people from (to be honest) mildly disturbing sites. The only issue I see here is that he didn’t give his sources so we’re all to assume that what he said is 100% factual. Don’t just post pictures and give the story without giving the source of the story.
@mitch70 I absolutely hate...
That about sums it up doesn't. Absolutely self-certain and perhaps proud of the hate. After all it is a long standing human trait.

I’ve been watching an excellent series of documentaries “Fall of Civilizations” https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT6Y5JJPKe_JDMivpKgVXew

It surely puts today’s situation into a sober perspective. When things get scary people get primal and tribal and rational evidence based thinking and acting and civility goes out the window - and the thugs take over. Same as it ever was, only this time, we’ve bet our entire world.

What made this series especial fascinating besides how well it’s made and narrated, is that I learn about all these civilizations long ago. Old news. Oh but wait a moment, researching have been combing for ever more evidence and understanding, while I’ve been off doing other things.

Now this guy comes along with an excellent synthesis of much of\ that new evidence and how it has enriched and altered our previous understanding. Khmer empire, Easter Island - wow, . . .

The only issue I see here is that he didn’t give his sources so we’re all to assume that what he said is 100% factual. Don’t just post pictures and give the story without giving the source of the story.
I DID post the source to the story about Oregon's State history. And from that source (see my post), if you read it closely, there is a link that you can just click to get to

https://oregonhistoryproject.org/articles/historical-records/kkk-meets-with-portland-leaders-1921/#.XufqwW5Fy1u

On the Oregon History Project site is one of the pictures. Then there is https://oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/ku_klux_klan/#.XufsTm5Fy1s

where you could learn more and find other links to the history and pictures.

Sorry, I did not realize you would be so anxious to learn the history.

 

A history lesson: On Oregon. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregons-founders-sought-a-white-utopia-a-stain-of-racism-that-lives-on-even-as-state-celebrates-its-progressivism/ar-BB15sXQ1?ocid=spartanntp Oregon became a state in 1859 as the United States was hurtling toward civil war. Slavery, the issue that was tearing the young nation apart, was banned in the new state. Many of Oregon’s leaders believed they had a better model. They wouldn’t allow black people at all. You would have fit right in, in Oregon in those days, Oneguy. … Oregon is also one of the whitest states in the country — originally by design. The effects of that history of racism are still felt today. The authors of Oregon’s constitution declared that no “free negro or mulatto … shall come, reside or be within this State, or hold any real estate.” The state’s founders sought to create nothing short of “a white utopia,” says Oregon author and scholar Walidah Imarisha. “An idealized racist white society.” It wasn’t just blacks they sought to keep out, but pretty much all who were not white. So that sort of thing continued on from 1859 to the early 1920’s when the KKK was rampant in Oregon.
It's interesting how the Whitest areas of the country are also the most progressive. Concentrated Whiteness must be the main ingredient.
It’s interesting how the Whitest areas of the country are also the most progressive. Concentrated Whiteness must be the main ingredient.
Why is that, though? Give me your best shot.

I don’t know Sree. Maybe living in a place that is homogenous and isolated like the pacific northwest encourages some behaviors in the people who settled there that lead to progressive politics.

Maybe living in a place that is homogenous and isolated like the pacific northwest encourages some behaviors in the people who settled there that lead to progressive politics.
How come you are not infected by progressive politics?