"Black Lives Matter"

Latinos are mostly people of Spanish ancestry who are living in the Americas.
I know, but I was referring to the political demographic, folks who have a say on who gets into the White House this November. They form the largest minority in the US and their alignment with the ruling majority makes a better fit for the country.

I wonder how you would romance a woman. Do you go all technically correct or cut to the chase like a real hombre?

you said “indigenous” Sree. Is it that hard to admit when you are wrong? You don’t get to say “slip of the tongue” on the internet. You should have googled first, then posted.

BTW, our cities are not fire, not Portland, not Minneapolis. They are already treating 38th and Chicago like a memorial. They have sanitizer stations and people handing out water and answering questions. With no budget, no government decree, they are making the world a better place.

you said “indigenous” Sree. Is it that hard to admit when you are wrong? You don’t get to say “slip of the tongue” on the internet. You should have googled first, then posted.
You don't think that Ocasio Cortez is as much a native (indigenous) as the Apache? Perhaps, you need to take this issue up with the United States Census Bureau. It uses the term "latino" the way I do. Man, you really do have an obsessive compulsion to pick, pick, pick. Like Trump, I will not concede.
Man, you really do have an obsessive compulsion to pick, pick, pick. Like Trump, I will not concede. -- Sree
Sorry, I prefer to use words as they are defined. Makes for better understanding of each other. Of course, I pretty much dismiss everything you say anymore since it's obvious you don't really go for clarity, or even reality. The only thing I can think of, that must have you confused, is that "Latino" is in a list of check boxes along with "Native American" on some forms.
the original or earliest known inhabitants of an area, in contrast to groups that have settled, occupied or colonized the area more recently. -- Wikipedia

Big surge in murders in cities across the country is making a mockery of BLM.

Chicago has logged 430 homicides so far this year, up 51% from this point last year, reports the Sun-Times. And while Chicago has drawn much of the attention over rising homicides, it's far from alone among big US cities. A Wall Street Journal analysis finds that 36 of the nation's 50 largest cities have seen their homicide rates increase by double-digit percentages this year. Austin (though its murder total is still less than 30, per KXAN) actually leads the way, with that city and Chicago the only two to record spikes of greater than 50%. Then come Fort Worth (Texas), San Antonio (Texas), Phoenix, Philadelphia, Houston, New York, Columbus (Ohio), and Jacksonville (Florida). In terms of the total number of homicides, Chicago's total is almost double that of No. 2, Philadelphia. After that come New York, Houston, Los Angeles, Dallas, Jacksonville, Phoenix, Columbus, and San Antonio.
 
Big surge in murders in cities across the country is making a mockery of BLM.
The sad thing is that black grade school kids are shot and killed in cities every week. They neither have rap sheets nor served time in prison. Nobody is marching in protest against their killers. Who cares?

That fact just complicates things too much.

Big surge in murders in cities across the country is making a mockery of BLM.
Leave it to you, to take some bad news and then pin it on something else that you don't like.

Months ago, I was predicting that this would be an extraordinarily violent summer. In case you hadn’t noticed, some other things have and are happening this year, besides the BLM movement.

Would you say "Big surge in murders in cities across the country is making a mockery of (many many millions losing work)? or of (many many millions without healthcare during a pandemic)? or of (the intense division of American citizens from one another)?

No that would be nonsensical. Except that blaming BLM for increased violence in this summer that rhymes with 1968, fits with an alt right agenda.

I don’t recall thinking about a BLM movement when I predicted the violence of this summer, but it is somewhere in the threads of earlier this year.

@timb

Black lives matter to whites. They don’t matter to blacks. Please show some sign that you get this.

I only get that your assertion is ridiculous.

 

I haven’t had to time to sort through the stats on this one, but I’m almost certain they are being abused. The article above is the most numbers I’ve seen in one place. Others tend to just say “200% rise” and leave it at that. That they are using 50 largest as the set is telling. After the first 5 it starts dropping off pretty quick. The number of murders to make a 50% increase in a smaller city is not that big. Sree will jump on me for not caring, but that’s his game. The game that police are playing is the truly dangerous one. A few chiefs making a few decisions can make murder rates jump pretty easily. The other data I’d like to see is how these rates jump around on any given summer. When I lived in Minneapolis, years ago, they got up to a murder a week, but there was no pandemic or anything else, so they blamed the mayor.

You don’t think that Ocasio Cortez is as much a native (indigenous) as the Apache? -- Sree
Nope, not letting this one go.

AOC’s parents were both born in Puerto Rico. It was an island originally populated by the indigenous Taino, many of whom were killed or succumbed to illnesses from the Spanish. Some intermarried with their colonizers. It was a Spanish colony from 1493 to 1898 then America acquired it. It grew to 1 million people by 1900 due to European immigration.

That don’t sound like no Apache.

@sree

Black lives matter to whites. They don’t matter to blacks. Please show some sign that you get this.

Where the heck do you get this ignorant idea? It’s simply not true. I want to see you go into a Black neighbourhood and go ask the first Black (not everyone is Black) woman you see and ask her if “Black Lives Matter” and see what kind of reaction you get. Especially if she has kids (over the age of emancipation or under) she’s going to tell you just how stupid your thinking is on the matter. You will get an eye opening experience because Black lives do matter, including and especially to Black people and anyone who is a mama of Black people. The last thing you want to do is go up to a Black woman and tell them that Black lives don’t matter to Black people. She’ll knock you on your butt.

Would you say “Big surge in murders in cities across the country is making a mockery of (many many millions losing work)? or of (many many millions without healthcare during a pandemic)? or of (the intense division of American citizens from one another)?

No that would be nonsensical. Except that blaming BLM for increased violence in this summer that rhymes with 1968, fits with an alt right agenda.


Never said BLM is causing the murders. The point is that black lives matter is nonsense because they objectively do not seem to matter.

Black lives matter to whites. They don’t matter to blacks. Please show some sign that you get this.
Black lives matter to liberal Whites in a fetishistic way; it's safe to say most non-liberal Whites either don't think about blacks, or simply dislike them.

Blacks care a lot about the lives of kin without a doubt, but the constant victimization blacks inflict on each other makes it hard to believe they care much about those who aren’t related to them.

I’ve always noticed blacks seem to have a low opinion of other blacks in general.

Never said BLM is causing the murders. The point is that black lives matter is nonsense because they objectively do not seem to matter.
Are you the only Earthling here? You are the only one who understands what I am saying. "Chicago: 75% of Murdered Are Black, 71% of Murderers Are Black." (Source: https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/about/#staff )

So you guys are saying that since most blacks killed are killed by other blacks, then that means that, in general, all the other black people don’t think that Black Lives Matter.

Think about how silly that conclusion is.

Most whites who are killed are killed by whites. By your addled reasoning, this would meant that white people, in general, do not think that White Lives Matter.

 

...it’s safe to say most non-liberal Whites either don’t think about blacks, or simply dislike them.
I imagine that you could testify to that subjectively, but I am skeptical that you can support the assertion objectively.
I’ve always noticed blacks seem to have a low opinion of other blacks in general.
Oh. Well, how awkward that you would suggest attaching such a negative stereotype to black people.

Especially when it is based on who-knows-what observations you have made, and on who-knows-what bias you may have had in determining how one black person feels about another.

Prejudice is so difficult to counter because those who are prejudice will justify it by pointing to the actions of a few people. I can’t think of anything like that to even make an analogy.