Hmm, if only there was one word to concisely respond to something so egregiously inappropriate as that.Yes, there is. Incomprehensible.
So, wait for the results of the investigation. I also want to understand what reason one could possibly have to completely ignore a policeman with a drawn gun and keep walking away to one’s car.
So put yourself in that situation. You’re following a guy who says he has a knife in his car. You have a gun pointed at him. Which one of you is in control of the situation? “Control” doesn’t mean that he’s doing everything you want. “Control” means that it is YOU who determines how far away the two of you are and it is YOU who is the threat. Stay 10 feet back. If he turns around with a knife then shoot him in the face.Sounds reasonable. But if he was armed and dangerous why is it better to shoot him in the face instead of the back.
As for that “story”, how did they know that he “leaned in to get it”? Did he announce, “I am now leaning into my car to get the knife within the car that I might stab you with it. And I’m a lot faster than you might think, so if you don’t shoot me in the back 7 times before I get my hands on the knife you’ll get stabbed”? Did the cop suspect he could slow time? Did the cop suspect he was the Flash and could close the distance between them instantly? Was there any danger that the man could get the knife, turn around and lunge toward the office with it, killing him with a knife before the officer could defend himself? That threat with his gun? There is LITERALLY a meme about the ignorance of bringing a knife to a gun fight and how it means that you will lose every time and it is LITERALLY one of the most common and best recognized memes in the country and has been for decades.I don't know how accurate the reporting is but that's what they're saying.
Okay, I see what you’re saying now. No, we’re talking about a cop in the US a few days ago, not the Nazi SS during Hitler. That’s why we weren’t understanding each other. I didn’t understand that you were talking about an authoritarian police force with impunity to execute people without trial.If you don't think police have the authority to use deadly force then you're either very sheltered or a dumbass. Why do you think they are issued guns?
First of all, some of you are adding details that we don’t know happened because they are not in the report and secondly, for me to put myself in that position would be awkward because I don’t own a gun and do not like guns. The point is, the police did not need to use lethal force on the man. They had other “non-lethal” means at their exposal that would not have paralyzed the man or risk killing him.
Jacob Blake, the victim of the cop shooting, has a body shredded by 7 bullets, and a shattered spine, which will probably leave him paralyzed from the waist down, should he survive.AND YET, he is being handcuffed to his hospital bed. Meanwhile, the crazed shooter cop, who almost killed him, Rusten Shesky, is not handcuffed to anything.
Hmm, if only there was one word to concisely respond to something so egregiously inappropriate as that.
Suspects are always cuffed to the bed in case somebody tries to sneak them out, and to prevent them from sabotaging medical treatment e.g, ripping out IVs, removing dressings, etc.I never thought of that. Why would they sabotage medical treatment though?
Cuffing him to the bed, in cases he attempts to flee isn’t necessary in his case, because he’s paralyzed thanks to the cops. He’s definitely not going to run, because the cops took care of that. He won’t ever run again.
He’s definitely not going to run, because the cops took care of that. He won’t ever run again.He was a wanted felon for sexual assault. There was a warrant for his arrest when the police answered the 911 call his girlfriend made to get him out of her house. Do all these facts matter to you?
He was a wanted felon for sexual assault.Ok. He is wanted due to the allegation. Since it is an allegation of sexual abuse by a woman, (his ex girlfriend) should we go ahead and consider him guilty?
And therefore, since he is guilty of sticking his finger in her pussy… Since he is accused of doing that… Is shooting him 7 times in the back from close range, acceptable?
If so, I know of a guy who has been accused of grabbing women by the pussy, without their explicit permission, who Rusten Sheskey can go ahead and shoot in the back, 7 times, from close range, also.
Being a sex offender doesn’t warrant cops to shoot them in the back seven times. Maybe shoot off his b… You get my point. The thing is, everyone is suppose to be innocent in the U.S. until proven guilty, not guilty until proven otherwise.
The thing is, everyone is suppose to be innocent in the U.S. until proven guilty, not guilty until proven otherwise.He was guilty of resisting arrest. Why have we gone from the honorable causes of fighting for the rights of black people's access to better jobs and college education to defending thugs?
@sree “defending thugs?” Oh my! You’ve declared yourself judge and jury, haven’t you? No one has put aside “a mind is a terrible thing to waste”, but what good is it for a Black kid to walk onto a college campus, with the help of the UNCF, if cops are going to shot him for doing so and then the NAACP has to get involved for that too? We still have to do both, in case you didn’t get what I just said. We need the UNCF, NAACP, National Urban League, BLM, NBWJI, Rainbow Coalition, and others like ACLU, NOW, and NWPC, which are not exclusively Black, but yet if not for one offering the other a hand up neither would succeed as they have. Stepping on your fellow human in order to gain equality, makes one as bad as the one you demand equality with. For us all to be equal, we have to help each other achieve equality, which is what all of this is about.
Here’s the issue, if he were white, 1. the police more than likely would not have shot him 7 times in the back and 2. we wouldn’t be having this discussion, but since we are…
Did you know, that Black men got the right to vote before women in general did- yet Black men were still prevented from voting? Women could not get a credit card or bank account without her father or husband? Civil Rights and ERA were fought simultaneously, but do you know why and what women’s rights have to do with Civil Rights? You probably don’t have a clue any more than you have a clue concerning why it was unnecessary for police to cowardly shoot a Black MAN in the back 7 times. You also probably don’t see the connection either. Numbers wise, white men are in the minority, but power wise (unless they are poor) white men are in power and therefore the majority, while everyone else is a minority, including women. Civil Rights and ERA go hand in hand, even Gloria Steinem knew that, but you don’t have a clue. If Black men can’t keep from being cowardly shot in the back by police women don’t stand a chance of having anti-domestic violence laws. Women have been just as oppressed as Black people and we are starting to go backwards, not forward. Truth be told, the white officers were afraid of the Black man, but if it were a white man, the situation would have been different because they aren’t afraid of a white man and cowardly shot him in the back.
For your reading pleasure, but only because the two subjects intertwine:
Rusten Shevsy was the “thug” in this scenario.
If you defend him, then YOU are defending the thug.
@timb is right, @sree. It was the dotard’s thugs who gassed peaceful protesters and dragged an Episcopal priest (female priest at that) out of her church, along with a few church attendees, frightening them like a dic[tator], just to have a photo op, holding an upside down and backward Bible. He doesn’t even attend that church, which is said to be the Presidents’ Church. Now those are thugs- the dotard’s thugs- and his photo op means nothing. I have more respect for the Episcopal priest than the dotard and they both have their fantasy worlds. I’m sure it was a horrid experience for her and she, as well as her little group of attendees, and the peaceful protesters did nothing to deserve any of that, except be in the right place at a time that the dotard was doing wrong.
Last night, an organized right wing caravan of 600 right wing extremists supporting the t rump, drove thru the previously peaceful protestors, inciting violence. They were waving t rump flags and shooting demonstrators with paintball guns and spraying some with bear repellant.
For this crime of assault, the t rump declared by tweet: “GREAT PATRIOTS!” Trump wrote as he shared video of his supporters driving into Portland to confront the protesters.
I used to play some paintball. One time (and this is not an exaggeration at all) I had a bruise larger than a large dinner plate on my torso. No problem, I was playing voluntarily. But I was, per the rules, wearing a helmet with a face shield. Otherwise, I and plenty of others would be blinded from playing. Anyway, I can vouch that being shot with a paintball gun when not playing paintball, is flat out assault. I have not experienced being sprayed with bear spray, but I am sure that is considered assault as well.
On a sad note, a right wing extremist was found shot to death later in the evening.
Yes, one of the t rump’s right wing extremists who he eggs on and calls GREAT PATRIOTS, is now dead, having given his life in support of LIES and in support of the most damaging of all LIARS evcr, the t rump.
Kellyanne Conway admitted 2 days ago, that violence in the streets is good for the t rump campaign.
No wonder all of his policies and actions support more violence, while he simultaneously (in one of his biggest lies) declares himself the only hope for “Law and Order”. He claims there will be violence and job losses if Biden wins. Are his supporters blind, deaf, and stupid? His administration is in power, NOW, and NOW we have violence in the streets and more job losses than ever.
He is the CORRUPTION AND CHAOS CANDIDATE. (not, at all, a law and order candidate.) He promotes violence in the streets. He breaks laws himself, as he wishes, because he has arranged to be above the law. He abuses his power to also protect his minions who have broken laws for him, by pardoning them.
He is all about CORRUPTION AND CHAOS. It helps him maintain his power. Why would he stop this strategy if he is re-elected? He would not. He would continue and thus have the excuse to further entrench his autocratic powers, by establishing Martial Law.
Why would he change what works for him?
The 19th Amendment was only the beginning for Black women. They couldn’t vote, or at least that was the understanding in order to pass it, but white women could. This is where Civil Rights and ERA meet- with injustices like this. As I said, women and other minorities are all in this together.
@sree All I can say is, what these dudes in the video said, I agree with them. I’ll let them say it, some of which is what I’ve already been saying.
@sree All I can say is, what these dudes in the video said, I agree with them. I’ll let them say it, some of which is what I’ve already been saying.These dudes have an issue that needs to be discussed with other dudes in their community. I don't understand their problem with the police that are oftentimes called by them dudes to deal with violent dudes in their community. Cops can't read their minds anymore than they can read mine. This is why, like a well-trained dog, I do exactly as they order me when they pull me over.
To be happy living in a well-run home, a dog needs to be well trained.
I used to play some paintball.Did you also throw bricks at other people? How do you compare that with shooting paintballs, a game that kids as young as 12 to 14 are allowed to play?
These dudes have an issue that needs to be discussed with other dudes in their community. I don’t understand their problem with the police that are oftentimes called by them dudes to deal with violent dudes in their community. Cops can’t read their minds anymore than they can read mine. This is why, like a well-trained dog, I do exactly as they order me when they pull me over.To be happy living in a well-run home, a dog needs to be well trained.
That community is your community too. After all they also live in the U.S.
I’m assuming you’re white and don’t have family members who are black or 1/2 black, therefore you wouldn’t get it and that’s what is called privilaged.
No surprise you like dogs. Most Repugs like dogs.
Who says they don’t do what they are told when pulled over?
A happy cat trains you. You don’t train cats, which explains why many Dems like cats. lol
Seriously, though, the cops that shot the man in the back need training. There were kids in the back seat and they will live with the trauma of their father being unjustly by cowardly police. The whole incident should not have happened, but because the man was black it happened and that’s what you refuse to understand, preferring to believe all black men are bad, especially if they have a record and should be shot on sight, which you refuse to admit.