Some liberals are quite happy to live in what they call a benevolent dictatorship . Since Morgan the Kane does not specify the type of democracy he prefers to live under, a bourgeois democracy would be preferable system to live under than any other under his criteria
If you get to know him, I think you can figure that out. Or, if you just ask. But the question at the moment was to you. Thatās just how conversing works. It has something to do with physics, that everything doesnāt happen at once.
The question was to you too. Morgan points to china and says they dont have or respect our freedoms . Democracy he cries is far better and the west is democratic. Western values of human rights, freedom of press and freedom of speech. - the big lie which keeps getting bigger as voices for palestine are shutdown, assange rots in jail for telling the truth, and the EU talking of sanctioning and travel bans on tucker carlson and the US talk of freezing his assets and not letting him back into the uSA after he interviewed putin this past Tuesday.
No such actions let alone talk of such actions for those perpetrating genocide in Morgans you beaut all hail liberal democracy
Always amazes me how people talk about how restricted their freedoms are when listing all the things they know about their government. I donāt know if itās changed recently, but Iāve seen young people interviewed in China about Tiananmen Square and they had never heard of it because their internet browsers blocked them from that.
Just look how far you have to stretch. Should I be so free that I can force a country across the ocean to let someone cross their border?
Iām talking about a limited democracy with less liberalism. For an example, if I were in charge, I would start by ending universal suffrage and pluralism.
Youāre pulling our legs now, right?
Iām against both. Pluralism is just nonsense that overcomplicates things, but universal suffrage is one of the dumbest moves in world history.
Thanks to the whistleblowers and wikileaks
Some points :
I did not say that democracy was perfect, i said that it is the less worst of the system
I am very conscious that western democracies donāt live up to their ideals, but at least they have some. To get the approbation of congress for the second Iraqi war, Bush Junior had to lie. to attack Ukraine Putin had no process to respect.
Elections are not democracy i agree. But, at least people have their word to say. Other systems are heredity or lot. Far from perfect.
My ideals ?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcPsB6PwaiE]
But as it is a dream, i will opt for now for a liberal, social-democrat democracy, as a functioning compromise between capital and workers.
Ultra-right is advocating dictatorship. No more free elections, no more strikes, no more free opinion, women as objects, and a moral and societal corset. No more social welfare. And no more science.
And to advance its ideas, it creates imaginary ennemies, or exaggerate some true ones.
Thatās the alternative to democracy we have in front of us.
Thatās just wonderful . Morganās you beaut best of democracies is leading us into WW3
WWII was caused by Germany and Japan who were not democracies.
They happened because dictatorships despise and hate democracies and think they are weak. They are sure that, under democracies, people have no morale rules.
Is not that not reminding you some Putin and Chinese president speeches and writings ?
They have relays in West, Trump and his sycophants, US neoconservatives, European ultra-right.
I would happily exchange about the liberal democracies wrongs in other threads/topics, but this one is about ultra right. And you evade the topic.
Yes, and Putin, the best of world dictators, is doing his best to keep world-peace, right?
Doing a better job than biden
Its not china and russia that has inflamed the middle east to the point of the breakout of world war
May be Islamists contributed their share.
Islamists are ultra right conservatives. Their rise is a part of the phenomena i am talking about.
I am not speaking about muslims, just about integrists.
In a vacuum? Was this chinas and russisa doing in radicalising the Salafi Wahhabists ?
You are right about free elections. However, social welfare, labor rights and equality can be found in many non-democratic societies.
Islamists have never been liberal, so they cannot be counted as a group that is becoming less liberal.
Right and Left politics only exists with White people. Others may experiment but that is as far as it goes.
I think the far right (ultra right) only focus is to drain the swamp. If that doesnāt happen, then nothing else matters.
I have been watching the breakup of Russia for years. And I got to hand it to Putin for backing the Russians in Ukraine. I donāt understand what the ultra right has to do with anything going on in that area. The only time there was any peace in the area was when Trump was in office. What is the number of treaties that have been broken by the US in the area. I believe we are up to seven now. If the US does not get Trump back in charge to clean up the mess. I am afraid the left will push Putin to a nuclear reaction.
Iām afraid you have it backward Mike. How can you possibly consider a leader who would use nuclear weapons as offensive weapons and has already threatened to use them as a candidate to lead a nation.
Strong does not mean ruthless, because usually that leads to criminal behavior as we are witnessing today.
Somehow the US is blamed for the Ukraine war, but reality is Ukraineās application for membership in NATO that Putin found threatening. So he invaded Ukraine and is committing genocide on innocent citizens. That will be Trumpās model too if he is let loose on this world.