It’s amazing how hard you are working to not address what I’ve said, to twist a statement into support for Trump, to make a mountain out of a mole hill, to abuse the concept of logic, and to generally disrupt and annoy.
2 Likes
And now trump admits it was never about nuclear weapons . Its all about regime change in iran .
Found that on the net
Trump big fumble in Iran
In the span of seventy-two hours, the Trump administration has managed to simultaneously bomb Iran, fracture its own political coalition, humiliate itself on the global stage, and vaporize billions of dollars in advanced munitions, all while declaring victory. It takes a certain kind of brilliance to orchestrate a fiasco this comprehensive.
We begin with what Trump insists on calling a “complete and total obliteration” of Iran’s nuclear capabilities. The centerpiece of this spectacle, code-named “Operation Midnight Hammer” (a name that would embarrass even a Michael Bay film), involved seven B-2 Spirit bombers dropping a dozen 30,000-pound bunker-busting Massive Ordnance Penetrators on Iran’s Fordo facility. Each of these bombs reportedly costs upwards of $500 million, and with twelve dropped, we are staring at $6 billion in ordnance expended on just one target. Add in cruise missile salvos, submarine deployments, the logistics of moving B-2s halfway across the world, and the surrounding military build-up of 40,000 American troops now sitting well within Iranian missile range, and you’re easily looking at a multi-billion dollar operation. That’s just for this single round of strikes.
But it gets better. Despite the chest-thumping at the Pentagon press conference, the damage assessment tells a different story. Satellite imagery reviewed by multiple independent experts suggests that while substantial above-ground damage occurred, Fordo’s deeply buried enrichment halls may have survived. Observers saw trucks moving materials out of Fordo and Natanz in the days before the attacks, strongly suggesting that Iran moved its highly enriched uranium, enough for multiple bombs, to a safe location beforehand. In short, Trump may have spent billions of dollars successfully bombing empty tunnels.
Iran, of course, wasted no time signaling that its program remains intact, with foreign ministry officials implying that enrichment could continue elsewhere, including at the much deeper, as-yet-unstruck Pickaxe Mountain site. Even Israel’s own Channel 13 military analysts admit the program could not be destroyed with airstrikes alone, even if this operation continued for another year. The phrase “mission accomplished” hovers over this charade like a ghost from George W. Bush’s deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln.
And yet, while Trump boasts of obliteration, his own Vice President JD Vance and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth were dispatched to Sunday talk shows to offer a far more modest take: no, this was not about regime change; no, Iran’s stockpiles were not fully destroyed; yes, this simply “set back” their program. But then, like clockwork, Trump himself detonates his own talking points by hopping onto Truth Social to declare that regime change is now exactly what he’s after: “Why wouldn’t there be regime change?” he mused, in between bizarre tirades against Thomas Massie and spelling his own name wrong as “DONA KDJ Trump.”
This sudden turn toward regime change prompted some awkward silence within MAGA world. Populist allies who once cheered Trump’s anti-interventionist rhetoric are now visibly squirming. Even Thomas Massie, long a reliable libertarian foot soldier, found himself publicly attacked by Trump for opposing what is clearly an unconstitutional act of war. The anti-war isolationist mask has slipped; what remains is raw imperial hubris wrapped in cheap populist theater.
And yet, the contradictions keep piling up. Trump, who famously promised to disentangle America from Middle East wars, now finds himself on the phone, figuratively, if not literally, begging Xi Jinping to help keep the Strait of Hormuz open as Iran threatens to choke off global oil shipping lanes in retaliation. The great self-proclaimed dealmaker, who once mocked Joe Biden as weak, now stands humiliated, forced to rely on Beijing to prevent his own reckless adventure from igniting an oil price shock that could crater the world economy. In a particularly bitter irony, while Trump rules by tantrum and impulsive fiat, Iran’s leadership, though authoritarian, shares its decision-making through institutional consensus among multiple power centers. The mullahs, the Revolutionary Guard, and the civilian government consult, maneuver, and adapt with remarkable cohesion, while Washington’s policy process resembles little more than Trump’s late-night social media stream-of-consciousness.
Meanwhile, Iran has already begun coordinating with Russia, with its foreign minister flying to Moscow to bolster defense ties. For all of Trump’s bluster about maximum pressure, he has driven Tehran deeper into the very axis he once claimed his deal-making would disrupt.
Of course, no international disaster is complete without the moral voice of the Vatican weighing in, and here Pope Leo delivered what may be the most devastating condemnation of all. In his Sunday address, the Pope linked Trump’s Iran strikes directly to Israel’s ongoing assault on Gaza, calling it a cynical diversion from atrocities unfolding there. “War does not solve problems,” Pope Leo declared. “It amplifies them.” He went further, condemning leaders who wage war without risking their own children, a not-so-subtle jab at Trump and his family, none of whom will be dodging Iranian missiles in the days ahead. The irony was almost too on-the-nose when, during Trump’s lavish parade the tiny audience was treated to sounds of “Fortunate Son”, that iconic Vietnam-era anthem railing against draft-dodging elites who send others to die while their own privileged offspring stay safely at home. It was, unintentionally, the most honest soundtrack imaginable for a president who skipped Vietnam, ducked every fight of his life, and now orders young Americans into harm’s way from the comfort of his fortified golf resorts.
And if the moral indictment weren’t enough, there is the strategic blunder to consider. Trita Parsi, one of the sharpest analysts of the Iran file, compared Trump’s strike to Israel’s infamous 1981 Osirak raid, which ultimately accelerated Iraq’s nuclear ambitions rather than quashing them. Parsi predicts the same dynamic now: Trump may have guaranteed that within 5 to 10 years, Iran will go nuclear, both as a deterrent and as a nationalistic response to U.S.-Israeli aggression. Once again, we have bombed our way into proliferation.
Perhaps most damning of all is the complete collapse of process. Trump, increasingly isolated within his own administration, ignored his intelligence agencies (led at one point by Tulsi Gabbard before she was uninvited to the table), disregarded congressional war powers, and conducted military strikes absent any serious National Security Council deliberation. The decision-making process was instead driven by a tight inner circle of Fox News veterans, MAGA loyalists, and Netanyahu emissaries, with John Ratcliffe feeding Trump Israeli intelligence to override his own agencies. The result is less a functional presidency than a rogue operation wrapped in Christian nationalist cosplay.
For all the expensive hardware, the precision-guided bombs, and the absurdly costly stealth bombers circling the skies, what Trump has purchased here is not victory but escalation. The United States now finds itself exposed to retaliation, its credibility weakened, its global alliances further fractured, and its own domestic constitutional order once again shredded under the weight of one man’s boundless ego.
And yet, the grift rolls on. Even as missiles fall, Trump’s surrogates are busy pumping out pro-war merchandise, MAGA influencers are scrambling to update their talking points, and the base is left to awkwardly explain how their anti-war avatar just launched the war they spent eight years promising to prevent. In the end, perhaps Pope Leo said it best: “No armed victory can compensate for the pain of mothers, fear of children, the stolen future.”
What’s most remarkable is not simply that Trump has pushed America into an undeclared war, or that $6 billion in high-tech ordnance may have accomplished little. It’s that, in the wreckage of America’s strategic credibility, we now see the full descent into something cruder and more dangerous: a great power reduced to subcontracted muscle, drunkenly swinging its fists at the behest of smaller client states, while China, Russia, and Iran carefully redraw the maps behind its back.
The United States once led the world. Now it lurches behind Israel’s shadow, like some punch drunk barroom bouncer, throwing billion-dollar tantrums that leave its allies uneasy, its adversaries emboldened, and its citizens staring down another quagmire they never voted for.
Follow me at marygeddry.substack.com and @magixarc.bsky.social
Pretty ugly Morgan,
yet all so predicable, but I bet the chorus of “who could have imagined such a thing” is mighty.
The blood lust of the wealthy is breathtaking.
Iran attacks US base in Qatar with ballistic missiles as iran has right to defend herself.
Trumps actions are signed off by Democrat leaders . Schumer bleated out that trump should have gone through congress . THATS HIS ANTIWAR TAKE ??? Democrat 2028 presidental candidates are all silent. Besides the grifter OAC , no democrat has called for trump impeachment. They can do for sex with hooker but cant do for an illegal war.
Lots and lots of antiwar protests have sprung up across US to the without the democrats blessing.
Will you be participating in such events CC ?
It’s about whatever Israel wants it to be. Trump is just one of their useful idiots.
Just one of them.
And what would that do for me, or them?
What do you think?
If you were in charge what should we do; and why?
Nice to know that an illegal war of your countrys making doesnt get you out of bed.
If i was in charge we wouldnt have this problem in the first place!!
That sums up your logic. You don’t need to explain anything, you just assert you have all the answers.
Try this thought experiment; what problems existed before you were born? Then, at what point in your life were you able to be in charge? Let’s assume an enlightened world that would recognize your skills. That’s the point at which you are being asked to say what you would do.
I put it as pro war rent a crowd demanding antiwar activists come up with a solution for the mess the pro war crowd has put the world in
Before solutions, one needs to work on understanding the problem.
I don’t see where you’ve done any of that homework.
You’ve never mentioned the Uyghurs, is their plight less important to you? Does that mean I have license to claim you’re guilty of supporting Commie Chinese oppression because you haven’t mentioned them?
Seems kind of silly doesn’t it.
What about mental health? Do we own it ourselves to find strategies to hang on to a semblance of balance and contentment with one’s lot in life, while the cards fall where they may?
Who are you?
You want to put America imperialism and israels genocide of the Palestinians in the same conversation as the plight of the Uyghurs?
Chinese are commies ???
Would like to hear more how you got that
You should probably take a break from this.
Ceasefire agreements are going to continue to be broken and America will continue supporting Israel no matter what they do.
1 Like
Broken by Israel. Lets be clear. They didnt start this to end it here with US signoff
The Hebrew University in Tel Aviv recently translated a 3000 year old ancient stone tablet discovered near Jerusalem. The English translation from ancient Hebrew read: "Iran is only two months away from a nuclear weapon.
2 Likes
Besides, this discuss is way beyond tongue and cheek … so all bets are off buddy.
You went to AI ? You dont have knowledge on china’s economic framework?
What is knowledge? How do you get it? How do you demonstrate you have it?
A majority of Democrats in the House of Representatives joined a unanimous Republican caucus on Tuesday to block a resolution to impeach the president for the bombing of Iran.
I know that.
Ah, if you did more than simply look at headlines, and scroll down you’ll notice a whole bunch of references to further relevant reading material.
What? Is using Google evil in your book?
Did you ever visit a card catalog? (are you even old enough to know what that is?)
You said something really stupid to the effect that calling China a Commie country was wrong. I pointed out that is what not only the world calls them, but also what they call themselves. You can quibble about what a “real” Commie nation should look like, but that beside the point to the convention that’s been used all our lives.
If you did more than simply eat the covers, such as actually pull up some of the reference material and read it, then pray tell think about it some, you might learn something.
I have to pick my battles. Probably pick too many, but anyway. That “commie” comment was so wrong, it fell into the “not even wrong” category, so wrong there was no possible reasonable response. No matter what source you would have used, he would have questioned it.
There was a professor, years ago, or maybe it was a whole school, or many schools, that said “you can’t use Wikipedia as a source”. The phrase left off was “on research papers”. There was nothing about students not going to Wikipedia to get general information and find footnotes of “real” sources. A real source doesn’t get edited by a rogue Wikipedia account. It has a place in libraries, is published where papers are stored and can be referenced. It doesn’t have to be true or verified or even meet some standard of quality, it just needs to be filed in a way that if I look it up, I will find the same thing that you find.
greenhammer doesn’t see the world like that