War Drums in the Ukraine

Yes, that describes Russia and Putin to the T.
They invade a sovereign country while claiming some invented injury from their victim.

LOSERS dont give orders and dont set the conditions to end the fighting

Are you a mafioso? You sure sound like it.

OK, give me your house or I’ll bomb it to rubble and kidnap your kids.
What’s you gonna do? Give me your house?

In the US we have a saying, “Give me liberty or give me death” (Patrick Henry).
I believe that Ukraine has adopted that rightful resolve. Putin is the aggressor and needs to STOP!!

International court issues war crimes warrant for Putin

I can’t understand what you mean here. Are you saying America is the bully? If you use metaphor, be more specific about who you are describing.

Using the context of your earlier posts, I can tell you are referring to Ukraine here. So we’re back to this logic of war. At least we’re discussing it with some logic.

I disagree with your logic. A world where the country with the best army and most weapons gives the orders, is not a world I want to live in. We tried that with two world wars and proxy wars. Now Russia is trying to go back to the days of colonization. The “conditions” we should be discussing are how to feed everyone and how to clean up the messes made by the last few centuries.

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Russia opens up a front towards odessa while USA demands north korea stop helping russia.

Come on bro !

What is the problem with that?

Its like north korea demanding USA to stop supporting Israel. Good luck

The US is powerful and can sanction whole countries, making demands is kinda what we do, for better or worse. Smaller countries can work together and bring things to the UN, or just raise awareness and point out some crappy thing the US is doing.

All of these things happen.

Not anymore. The world has changed and USA no longer holds the trump card pardon the pun

So you support Russia and Hamas in their aggressive efforts to exterminate all Ukranians and Israelis?

You see. I get the feeling that you are not offering critique to extant conditions , but are engaged in an effort to sow distrust and division among those nations that are actively pursuing a peaceful resolution to all that violence..

I hear only sarcasm, not sincerity.

Support ? in what way? Financially? I can play that game too. You support the extermination of all Russians and palestinians .

Where do we go from there W4U ???

greenhammerxxx:
Support ? in what way? Financially? I can play that game too. You support the extermination of all Russians and palestinians .

The US is not invading and attempting to take violent possession of sovereign countries. We offer “foreign aid” so that our friends and allies can engage in peaceful and productive economic development and become trading partners that benefit both sides.

You seem to want the US to go away so that Russia and Hamas can pursue what they have publicly declared as existential threats to Ukraine and Israel.

Where do we go from there W4U ???

Offer Ukraine membership in NATO, so that it becomes protected from foreign invasion.

Note that Egypt made peace with Israel and has enjoyed friendly relations since.
If Palestine were to accept Israel as neighbor, the same beneficial arrangement could be forged and bring an end to centuries of hatred and religious conflict.

Egypt’s peace with Israel has been beneficial to both sides. Strengthening the civilian aspects of peace has led to deeper regional cooperation, economic and technological benefits, and increased stability and prosperity in the Middle East1. The peace agreement has affirmed peace as the strategic choice of both countries, providing tightened security cooperation around shared interests2.

The topic is not about Palestine, and we have than enough exchanged about it otherwhere. I will not pick up the debate here.

since the US/Spanish war of the 19th, USA have more than enough shown that they are able to invade other countries, weak ones preferably, for good and bad reasons. Trump has threatened to do it again, but he does not like war.

I sum up what i have said and said again here and in other topics.

West and especially USA have made serious mistakes in their relationship to Russia. If Putin had taken the eastern parts of Ukraine and had told " I will give them back, but i want a global security agreement in Europe.", presenting reasonable demands, I would have winced but i would have said OK, let’s try it.

But the aim of Putin was the destruction of Ukraine as an independent state and of a nation. Don’t inverse the tale. Ukraine never intended war against Russia.

For Putin, the end of USSR is the biggest disaster of the 20th century. He want to restore the imperial Russia.

Treaties have been violated, and promises have been broken, but the first and most important treaty broken was the treaty concluded when Ukraine gave back his nuclear weapons to Russia. Russia and USA confirmed the borders of Ukraine, and guaranteed them.

Russia has broken the treaty again and again.

When USA help Ukraine, they fulfill their obligations.

Now, yes Ukraine is losing the war. Ukraine could have won it during the first year, but his allies skimped on their support, not wanting to humiliate Putin. Putin believes only in strength.

Israel bombs maltese ship headed for gaza with humanitarian aid

Whats is this claim based on ? Reasonable to whom? Russian has a clear case of provocation.

I dont see you providing any evidence to back this up provide . Thats in your head and neo conservatives heads only

Prove it !!!

You are denying established facts.

I dare you to prove the information is fake !

an example

Some global references

Putin never said he wants to restore the USSR. You have added that bit in just like the warmongering neon psychopaths

878 posts is enough for over thread.