Trump worse than a National Security Threat?

So 3rdside, what exactly do you respect about Trump? His bankruptcies and the way he's screwed over investors? His failed marriages? His racist rhetoric? Perhaps you liked watching Trump mock a disabled reporter. Or was it his disrespect for a man who lost his son in military service? Maybe you just like all the lies Trump spouts. Hey, at least you're in good company. See CC's thread about the chairman of the American Nazi Party supporting Trump.
What I respect is that he's a total political outsider who's shaken up a system that needed it. btw, your list of sins is nothing but exaggeration. Any celebrity rich person could have done this. I don't mean they could have done it if they wanted to, I mean there is no rhyme or reason to why Trump succeeded. There is no formula, there was no plan, but anyone could have got on TV, started tweeting stuff about Mexico and could have gained these followers. It didn't happen before mainly because very few people want to do that. Most millionaires are happy with their millions and don't need to "shake things up" so they can legislate lower taxes for themselves. Most people respect the office of the POTUS. Most people would not say the things Trump says. Totally agreeing.
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Actually what the hell does "anecdotal" even mean in this context?
It means the threatening comments allegedly made by Trump are nothing but anecdote. Noonan said as much on twitter - comes down to gossip on a TV show which means Noonan's background doesn't mean a lot in this context.
Now if you really had a point make you'd bring up some evidence that what Scarborough reported is false or has been denied. But you don't do that. I wonder why. :smirk: More importantly the case for the Donald lacking soundness of mind, ability of character, and basic intelligence does not rest on Noonan comments. I also notice you neatly ignored this:
50 G.O.P. Officials Warn Donald Trump Would Put Nation’s Security ‘at Risk’ By DAVID E. SANGER and MAGGIE HABERMAN | AUG. 8, 2016 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/politics/national-security-gop-donald-trump.html?_r=0
Fifty of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter declaring that Donald J. Trump “lacks the character, values and experience" to be president and “would put at risk our country’s national security and well-being." Mr. Trump, the officials warn, “would be the most reckless president in American history."
Text of letter http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/08/us/politics/national-security-letter-trump.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/group-of-50-former-gop-national-security-officials-trump-would-be-most-reckless-president-in-american-history/2016/08/08/6715042c-5d9f-11e6-af8e-54aa2e849447_story.html The letter said Trump “lacks the temperament to be President," and gave a scathing assessment of his ability to take advice, discipline himself, control his emotions and reflect before acting. “He is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood," the letter states in a particularly pointed criticism of Trump’s personal traits. “He does not encourage conflicting views. He lacks self-control and acts impetuously. He cannot tolerate personal criticism. He has alarmed our closest allies with his erratic behavior. All of these are dangerous qualities in an individual who aspires to be President and Commander-in-Chief, with command of the U.S. nuclear arsenal."

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STATEMENT BY FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3007589/Nationalsecurityletter.pdf The undersigned individuals have all served in senior national security and/or foreign policy positions in Republican Administrations, from Richard Nixon to George W. Bush. We have worked directly on national security issues with these Republican Presidents and/or their principal advisers during wartime and other periods of crisis, through successes and failures. We know the personal qualities required of a President of the United States. None of us will vote for Donald Trump. From a foreign policy perspective, Donald Trump is not qualified to be President and Commander-in-Chief. Indeed, we are convinced that he would be a dangerous President and would put at risk our country’s national security and well-being. Most fundamentally, Mr. Trump lacks the character, values, and experience to be President. He weakens U.S. moral authority as the leader of the free world. He appears to lack basic knowledge about and belief in the U.S. Constitution, U.S. laws, and U.S. institutions, including religious tolerance, freedom of the press, and an independent judiciary. In addition, Mr. Trump has demonstrated repeatedly that he has little understanding of America’s vital national interests, its complex diplomatic challenges, its indispensable alliances, and the democratic values on which U.S. foreign policy must be based. At the same time, he persistently compliments our adversaries and threatens our allies and friends. Unlike previous Presidents who had limited experience in foreign affairs, Mr. Trump has shown no interest in educating himself. He continues to display an alarming ignorance of basic facts of contemporary international politics. Despite his lack of knowledge, Mr. Trump claims that he understands foreign affairs and “knows more about ISIS than the generals do." StatementofFormerNationalSecurityOfficials.docx Mr. Trump lacks the temperament to be President. In our experience, a President must be willing to listen to his advisers and department heads; must encourage consideration of conflicting views; and must acknowledge errors and learn from them. A President must be disciplined, control emotions, and act only after reflection and careful deliberation. A President must maintain cordial relationships with leaders of countries of different backgrounds and must have their respect and trust. In our judgment, Mr. Trump has none of these critical qualities. He is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood. He does not encourage conflicting views. He lacks self-control and acts impetuously. He cannot tolerate personal criticism. He has alarmed our closest allies with his erratic behavior. All of these are dangerous qualities in an individual who aspires to be President and Commander- in-Chief, with command of the U.S. nuclear arsenal. We understand that many Americans are profoundly frustrated with the federal government and its inability to solve pressing domestic and international problems. We also know that many have doubts about Hillary Clinton, as do many of us. But Donald Trump is not the answer to America’s daunting challenges and to this crucial election. We are convinced that in the Oval Office, he would be the most reckless President in American history. Donald B. Ayer Former Deputy Attorney General John B. Bellinger III Former Legal Adviser to the Department of State; former Legal Adviser to the National Security Council, The White House Robert Blackwill Former Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Planning, The White House Michael Chertoff Former Secretary of Homeland Security; former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, Department of Justice Eliot A. Cohen Former Counselor of the Department of State Eric Edelman Former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy; former National Security Advisor to the Vice President, The White House Gary Edson Former Deputy National Security Advisor, The White House Richard Falkenrath Former Deputy Homeland Security Advisor, The White House Peter Feaver Former Senior Director for Strategic Planning, National Security Council, The White House Richard Fontaine Former Associate Director for Near East Affairs, National Security Council, The White House Jendayi Frazer Former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs; former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Aaron Friedberg Former Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President, The White House David Gordon Former Director of Policy Planning, Department of State Michael Green Former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Asia, National Security Council, The White House Brian Gunderson Former Chief of Staff, Department of State Paul Haenle Former Director for China and Taiwan, National Security Council, The White House Michael Hayden Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency; former Director, National Security Agency Carla A. Hills Former U.S. Trade Representative John Hillen Former Assistant Secretary of State for Political-Military Affairs William Inboden Former Senior Director for Strategic Planning, National Security Council, The White House StatementofFormerNationalSecurityOfficials.docx Reuben Jeffery III Former Under Secretary of State for Economic Energy and Agricultural Affairs; former Special Assistant to the President for International Economic Affairs, National Security Council, The White House James Jeffrey Former Deputy National Security Advisor, The White House Ted Kassinger Former Deputy Secretary of Commerce David Kramer Former Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor James Langdon Former Chairman, President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, The White House Peter Lichtenbaum Former Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Export Administration Mary Beth Long Former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs Clay Lowery Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs; former Director for International Finance, National Security Council, The White House Robert McCallum Former Associate Attorney General; former Ambassador to Australia StatementofFormerNationalSecurityOfficials.docx Richard Miles Former Director for North America, National Security Council, The White House Andrew Natsios Former Administrator, U.S. Agency for International Development John Negroponte Former Director of National Intelligence; former Deputy Secretary of State; former Deputy National Security Advisor Meghan O’Sullivan Former Deputy National Security Advisor for Iraq and Afghanistan Dan Price Former Deputy National Security Advisor Tom Ridge Former Secretary of Homeland Security; former Assistant to the President for Homeland Security, The White House; former Governor of Pennsylvania Nicholas Rostow Former Legal Adviser to the National Security Council, The White House Kori Schake Former Director for Defense Strategy, National Security Council, The White House Kristen Silverberg Former Assistant Secretary of State for International Organizations StatementofFormerNationalSecurityOfficials.docx Stephen Slick Former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Intelligence Programs, National Security Council, The White House Shirin R. Tahir-Kheli Former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations, National Security Council, The White House; former Ambassador and Senior Advisor for Women’s Empowerment, Department of State William H. Taft IV Former Deputy Secretary of Defense; former Ambassador to NATO Larry D. Thompson Former Deputy Attorney General William Tobey Former Deputy Administrator, National Nuclear Security Administration, Department of Energy; former Director for Counter- Proliferation Strategy, National Security Council, The White House John Veroneau Former Deputy U.S. Trade Representative Kenneth Wainstein Former Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, The White House; former Assistant Attorney General for National Security, Department of Justice Matthew Waxman Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense; former Director for Contingency Planning and International Justice, National Security Council, The White House Dov Zakheim Former Under Secretary of Defense Roger Zakheim Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Philip Zelikow Former Counselor of the Department of State Robert Zoellick Former U.S. Trade Representative; former Deputy Secretary of State

Citizens Challenge - here’s what’s going on, somebody on a TV show said they heard a rumor that Donald Trump said he would nuke any nation that pisses him off or something to that effect. Anecdotes don’t mean shit. Do have any evidence of this besides that anecdote? And as far as the nuclear security experts you mention are concerned, I don’t care about them because:

  1. Trump isn’t a nuclear threat
  2. Most if not all of them are tied to the military industrial complex which Hillary Clinton has been in bed with her entire career, so they have a vested interest discrediting Trump
  3. These military industrial experts are often wrong anyway
    If Trump begins threatening others with nuclear annihilation I’ll start to worry. Until then I’ll think of it like a story of alien abduction.
Any celebrity rich person could have done this.I don't mean they could have done it if they wanted to, I mean there is no rhyme or reason to why Trump succeeded. There is no formula, there was no plan, but anyone could have got on TV, started tweeting stuff about Mexico and could have gained these followers. It didn't happen before mainly because very few people want to do that. Most millionaires are happy with their millions and don't need to "shake things up" so they can legislate lower taxes for themselves. Most people respect the office of the POTUS. Most people would not say the things Trump says.
Gotta disagree, the reason for his success so far is the declining state of society and politics - two sides of the same coin, really. 10 or 15 years ago Trump would not have had any chance as a political candidate, I don't know where you get the idea there was no rhyme or reason behind it. Another factor is Hillary Clinton is staight up horrible so that makes Trump look better, and the same can be said of Sanders. I think if Bernie Sanders were a little younger and a lot less nebbish he would have BTFO Clinton and Trump, but he couldn't hack it so here we are. It's undeniable Trump has been hella lucky, but he's a man of the times in the way others can't be.
If Trump begins threatening others with nuclear annihilation I'll start to worry. Until then I'll think of it like a story of alien abduction.
A) it doesn't matter to you that Trump has no understanding of the complexities of national security, etc. B) he shoots his mouth off like a guy at the bar. That's not scary to you? We are talking about the President of this United States of America.
2) Most if not all of them are tied to the military industrial complex which Hillary Clinton has been in bed with her entire career, so they have a vested interest discrediting Trump 3) These military industrial experts are often wrong anyway
... and of course all the expertise represented by that impressive list of names ... all those people who have actually tasted real responsibility and their thoughtful judgement, don't mean shit to you. . . . . :smirk:
1) Trump isn't a nuclear threat
Thanks be. It looks as though American people are going to make sure Trump isn't going to get the chance to be a nuclear threat.
Pssst 3rdoverboard
STATEMENT BY FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3007589/Nationalsecurityletter.pdf The undersigned individuals have all served in senior national security and/or foreign policy positions in Republican Administrations, from Richard Nixon to George W. Bush. We have worked directly on national security issues with these Republican Presidents and/or their principal advisers during wartime and other periods of crisis, through successes and failures. We know the personal qualities required of a President of the United States. None of us will vote for Donald Trump. From a foreign policy perspective, Donald Trump is not qualified to be President and Commander-in-Chief. Indeed, we are convinced that he would be a dangerous President and would put at risk our country’s national security and well-being. Most fundamentally, Mr. Trump lacks the character, values, and experience to be President. He weakens U.S. moral authority as the leader of the free world. He appears to lack basic knowledge about and belief in the U.S. Constitution, U.S. laws, and U.S. institutions, including religious tolerance, freedom of the press, and an independent judiciary. In addition, Mr. Trump has demonstrated repeatedly that he has little understanding of America’s vital national interests, its complex diplomatic challenges, its indispensable alliances, and the democratic values on which U.S. foreign policy must be based. At the same time, he persistently compliments our adversaries and threatens our allies and friends. Unlike previous Presidents who had limited experience in foreign affairs, Mr. Trump has shown no interest in educating himself. He continues to display an alarming ignorance of basic facts of contemporary international politics. Despite his lack of knowledge, Mr. Trump claims that he understands foreign affairs and “knows more about ISIS than the generals do." StatementofFormerNationalSecurityOfficials.docx Mr. Trump lacks the temperament to be President. In our experience, a President must be willing to listen to his advisers and department heads; must encourage consideration of conflicting views; and must acknowledge errors and learn from them. A President must be disciplined, control emotions, and act only after reflection and careful deliberation. A President must maintain cordial relationships with leaders of countries of different backgrounds and must have their respect and trust. In our judgment, Mr. Trump has none of these critical qualities. He is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood. He does not encourage conflicting views. He lacks self-control and acts impetuously. He cannot tolerate personal criticism. He has alarmed our closest allies with his erratic behavior. All of these are dangerous qualities in an individual who aspires to be President and Commander- in-Chief, with command of the U.S. nuclear arsenal. We understand that many Americans are profoundly frustrated with the federal government and its inability to solve pressing domestic and international problems. We also know that many have doubts about Hillary Clinton, as do many of us. But Donald Trump is not the answer to America’s daunting challenges and to this crucial election. We are convinced that in the Oval Office, he would be the most reckless President in American history. Donald B. Ayer Former Deputy Attorney General John B. Bellinger III Former Legal Adviser to the Department of State; former Legal Adviser to the National Security Council, The White House .......................................................................................................... Philip Zelikow Former Counselor of the Department of State Robert Zoellick Former U.S. Trade Representative; former Deputy Secretary of State
Team Obama has spent $500M to train ‘four or five’ Syrian rebels http://nypost.com/2015/09/18/team-obama-has-spent-500m-to-train-four-or-five-syrian-rebels/ Maybe all the guys on your list are worried about Trump. Spend a half a billion dollars to train a few rebels and nobody says anything. They are just afraid Trump won’t operate in that atmosphere.
Gotta disagree, the reason for his success so far is the declining state of society and politics - two sides of the same coin, really. 10 or 15 years ago Trump would not have had any chance as a political candidate, I don't know where you get the idea there was no rhyme or reason behind it. Another factor is Hillary Clinton is staight up horrible so that makes Trump look better, and the same can be said of Sanders. I think if Bernie Sanders were a little younger and a lot less nebbish he would have BTFO Clinton and Trump, but he couldn't hack it so here we are. It's undeniable Trump has been hella lucky, but he's a man of the times in the way others can't be.
Goes way deeper than that. The American people in general don't have any appreciation for either how our planet operates, or how our society even got here and the smoothly functioning machines and systems required for supplying the wonderful global society we inhabit. Along with a lack of appreciation, there's a deliberate effort to ignore the damages those systems inflict upon the Earth's biosphere, which we are dependent on. Instead they believe in endless growth and ignore cumulative compounding interest regarding natural systems and the "environment", Oh and they also ignore our population explosion and its many dark outcomes. They don't understand and stay away from learning about how we've changed fundament processes Nor do they recognize the cascading consequences of those natural changes as they start battering our society. But most are wrapped within one faith-based delusion or another, because the reality is too frightening and overwhelming. They usually blame others for all their problems while living out imaginary hollywood inspired lives oblivious to the seasons marching by with all their wonders. Thanks to the success of the boob tube of mass media and marketing, behold the grand dumbing down the public. {All very weird to watch from outside} No appreciation for the fantastical Earth we were bequeathed. After a few thousand years worth of lessons from petty greedy leaders, and bad decisions, destroying one stable society after another, we never got it. Now we've run out of space and don't have the imagination to recognize it or to deal with it's cascading consequences. :down:
Team Obama has spent $500M to train ‘four or five’ Syrian rebels http://nypost.com/2015/09/18/team-obama-has-spent-500m-to-train-four-or-five-syrian-rebels/ Maybe all the guys on your list are worried about Trump. Spend a half a billion dollars to train a few rebels and nobody says anything. They are just afraid Trump won’t operate in that atmosphere.
F you, it's been nothing but an idiotic money dump since Bush/Cheney's war of opportunity. If you want to bring that up, don't forget where this started
THE IRAQ WAR: BUSH’S BIGGEST BLUNDER BY DAVID C. GOMPERT , HANS BINNENDIJK , AND BONNY LIN ON 12/25/14 http://www.newsweek.com/iraq-war-bushs-biggest-blunder-294411 The main premise for the war was that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) and that these were at risk of falling into the hands of terrorists. In the end, however, there were no such weapons, and Saddam’s links to al Qaeda were unproven. This robbed the invasion of legitimacy. The insurgency that ensued after initial combat operation robbed the invasion of success. Today, the United States has less influence in Baghdad than Iran does ...
Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study NEW YORK | BY DANIEL TROTTA | March 4, 2013 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-war-anniversary-idUSBRE92D0PG20130314 The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said. The war has killed at least 134,000 Iraqi civilians and may have contributed to the deaths of as many as four times that number, according to the Costs of War Project by the Watson Institute for International Studies at Brown University. When security forces, insurgents, journalists and humanitarian workers were included, the war's death toll rose to an estimated 176,000 to 189,000, the study said. The report, the work of about 30 academics and experts, was published in advance of the 10th anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003.
If Trump begins threatening others with nuclear annihilation I'll start to worry. Until then I'll think of it like a story of alien abduction.
A) it doesn't matter to you that Trump has no understanding of the complexities of national security, etc. B) he shoots his mouth off like a guy at the bar. That's not scary to you? We are talking about the President of this United States of America.Its not that scary, I'm more concerned with economic issues right now, especially how the corporate oligarchy has the government by the throat.
2) Most if not all of them are tied to the military industrial complex which Hillary Clinton has been in bed with her entire career, so they have a vested interest discrediting Trump 3) These military industrial experts are often wrong anyway
... and of course all the expertise represented by that impressive list of names ... all those people who have actually tasted real responsibility and their thoughtful judgement, don't mean shit to you. . . . . :smirk: Like I said before......
1) Trump isn't a nuclear threat
Thanks be. It looks as though American people are going to make sure Trump isn't going to get the chance to be a nuclear threat. I hope Americans aren't afraid of that nonsense. There's plenty of more worrying crap around.

Besides it’s a lesson in how reckless actions are followed by devastating long term consequences.
But, you dance past the real issue here,
Donald Trump is incompetent and dangerous, he’s a talker and salesman, worse he’s a narcissist playing a high pressure game and sure to crack at some point.
He’s also dumb as shit when it comes to the complexities of international relations.
No! Opening golf courses around the world doesn’t qualify any more than being able to see Russian from your front porch does.

Besides it's a lesson in how reckless actions are followed by devastating long term consequences. But, you dance past the real issue here, Donald Trump is incompetent and dangerous, he's a talker and salesman, worse he's a narcissist playing a high pressure game and sure to crack at some point. He's also dumb as shit when it comes to the complexities of international relations. No! Opening golf courses around the world doesn't qualify any more than being able to see Russian from your front porch does.
I'm getting the impression you straight up don't like Trump, it doesn't matter to you what he actually does you just don't like him. And no offense but I'm also getting the impression from your posts in this thread and a few others that you're not really a rationalist; and maybe you're depressed and/or have low self-esteem. Try taking a break from the media, maybe.

Answer my question, 3rdside; What did I exaggerate when I said Trump has mocked a disabled reporter, etc?

I'm getting the impression you straight up don't like Trump, it doesn't matter to you what he actually does you just don't like him. And no offense but I'm also getting the impression from your posts in this thread and a few others that you're not really a rationalist; and maybe you're depressed and/or have low self-esteem. Try taking a break from the media, maybe.
Whether I like him or not has nothing to do with it. Show me one place Trump has shown the slightest awareness of international complexities. Hell show me one place he's shown an awareness of human complexities. Show me a few complete intelligent sentences he's written. Yes, I don't like blowhards. He's an absolutest. He stupid. What is there to like, his gold furniture, or his squeezable cute daughter? A rationalist would feel compelled to offer some constructive counter evidence/stories to my questions and suggestions. Instead you're trying playing armchair shrink to divert attention.* Remember this is about the various ways Trump is considered a national security threat Trump - now, even. Give him the presidency and we're all in deep shit. * Perhaps I'm just more frightened than most by the devolution I see going on in our politics system and with our apathetic faithful public who allow it. And perhaps I care about the future more than most.
* Perhaps I'm just more frightened than most by the devolution I see going on in our politics system and with our apathetic faithful public who allow it. And perhaps I care about the future more than most.
Na, you are not any more gullible that the rest of the “ME GENERATION". Trying to build Trump up as a security threat is nothing more than a political ploy, known in the real world as horseshit. And it looks like you are falling for it. Most of the public has already made up their mind on who they are voting for. The parties are really pushing the edge of reality to try and get these people to change their minds. It will be a different type of ball game if Trump wins and a lot of people really like the money they are making in the Obama/Hilary game. They will do or say anything to keep the Obama machine running as long as it will help "ME". Forgiven loans, free medical and a chance to become a paid lifetime student with a high paying government job at the end of the rainbow.
Trying to build Trump up as a security threat is nothing more than a political ploy, known in the real world as horseshoe.
Loos like you aren't paying attention. Republican security experts rail against Trump in open letter].
An open letter signed by 50 Republican national security experts has warned that nominee Donald Trump "would be the most reckless president" in US history. The group, which includes the former CIA director Michael Hayden, said Mr Trump "lacks the character, values and experience" to be president.
This is not a political ploy, this is a group of 50 Republican security experts warning that Donald Trump is a security threat. Take off your blinders, Mike, this is important. Edit: fixed a typo
Trying to build Trump up as a security threat is nothing more than a political ploy, known in the real world as horseshoe.
Loos like you aren't lying attention. Republican security experts rail against Trump in open letter].
An open letter signed by 50 Republican national security experts has warned that nominee Donald Trump "would be the most reckless president" in US history. The group, which includes the former CIA director Michael Hayden, said Mr Trump "lacks the character, values and experience" to be president.
This is not a political ploy, this is a group of 50 Republican security experts warning that Donald Trump is a security threat. Take off your blinders, Mike, this is important. I covered it in the posting. I did not say the Dem or Rep. I said “parties". Hell, just the tax credits on energy alone came to $5.3 trillion in 2015. This is a global action the entails members of both parties. Now add the 6 trillion of Middle East Wars and you got a lot of people that don’t want the boat rocked. With all the money that is being spent on Hilary, the people are not changing their vote. It’s got a lot of people that are benefiting from these programs on both sides of the aisles worried that Trump will stop the pork when elected. If anything the list of 50 will benefit Trump. It just goes to show the political aptitude of the general public is something new to the elections and that the self-preservation department heads don’t know how to deal with. It just goes to prove that voting for Trump will help clean house in Washington.

Nice job of ignoring the topic Mike.

Nice job of ignoring the topic Mike.
Not ignoring the topic. The topic is Trump is a security threat backed by a bunch of Washington bureaucrats because everything else they have tried is not changing the voters’ minds. You just don’t get it that people that have to work for a living and pay high taxes are getting fed up with Washington. You really want me to believe Trump is a spy for Russia and will use nuclear bombs on other countries when elected? So thank god that I can vote for Hilary. Do you have any idea what a security analyst is or does? The more incompetency in the leadership the higher the demand for security analysts. Of course these guys don’t want Trump.
You really want me to believe Trump is a spy for Russia... ?
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