And lack of interest comment is taken into account here in not taking your input seriously
You still don’t get it and don’t want to get it. I guess you vote the way the polls before the election say the election will go? If so, then you don’t actually vote. To really vote is to do actual research on the candidates and then make your own decision on who you want to vote for, not the way you’re told to vote.
You dont get it. The polls are snap shots of the public standing and appetite towards politics and offers political parties opportunity to change tack if they think their policies or messaging is not resonating
We said that. We agree again.
“Offer” is the key word. I have pretty limited access to their thinking.
So they arent meaningless !!! Oy vey !!!
Once again. Not dialog. You take one word out of the context and have it mean what you want, so you can argue about it.
Read the rules
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The context is polls and elections!!! Oy vey!!!
Let’s try a reset. State what you think is true.
What game are you playing? You have told me you dont care enough and have a lack of interest
Actually, no it’s not. It’s only a snap shot of those who took the poll, not a snap shot of the whole nation. It only tells you what those who answered it think. I took one of those polls once and figured out it was rigged really quickly. It’s not a very good way to measure the view of the public, which makes it completely meaningless and I serious doubt the parties pay any attention to those rigged online polls. The only one that really counts is the final tally at the end of the election. Those online polls mean nothing, not even to the politicians running.
You think polls are not adjusted to compensate for bias and representative sampling ?? And they give a margin of error !!!
Tell me a better way!!!
On this topic, i am rather on the side of mytwocentsworth
Polls are imperfect tools, but they are tools one does not must discard.
The first famous example of polls being wrong, is the Truman election. Pollsters had contacted their samples of voters by phone, introducing a bias.
But when every avalable gives same result, even if it is only a photography of the opinion at a given moment and not the prediction of the results of the election of November, it cannot be discarded as if negligible.
[President: general election Polls | FiveThirtyEight]
And Kennedy can cost Biden his election.
What is interesting is that these same polls give an advantage to democrats for Congress.
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This is about where this mess started. A prediction about how this trial will affect voting. Mriana then said this a little further on:
If you want to get technical and pick her words apart, go ahead, but that’s not what this forum is for. If we can’t allow each other to say something like “don’t mean anything” and have it understood as a phrase, a common way making a general statement, then we might as well just pack it in and go back to the days of tribal warfare.
Almost nothing has happened in this thread in four days, except arguments over what was meant when someone said “meaningful”. That’s not meaningful conversation.
The game is dialog. We’re not going to save democracy by arguing about the correct words to describe the state of polls today. Mriana said we have to be careful about reading too much into polls at this time. Twocents said there are some recent polls that show a significant trend.
So, like, those are your opinions. Let’s move forward with that.
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I already told you! Ignore the online polls. Do your own research and make up your own mind as to who you want to vote for. Don’t let some damn poll tell you who to vote for. I don’t vote by what some stupid poll says. I think for myself and ignore those things.
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I approved the above post from techum, although it looks like they type something into AI and then cut and pasted it.
The NYT polls WERE NOT on line polls. This is such a stupid conversation
If you think it’s stupid, then why are you in it? The NYT poll you linked to IS online, so it is an online poll.
“Our polls are conducted by telephone, using live interviewers, in both English and Spanish. Nearly 95 percent of respondents were contacted on a cellphone for this poll.”
You still want to argue and make this an even more stupid conversation.
You’re the one who’s arguing. I still say that poll isn’t worth listening to and your stupid poll isn’t what this thread is about anyway. So stop talking about your stupid poll. This conversation never had anything to do with your stupid poll to begin with. So the conversation is not stupid. Your lame poll is because this topic had nothing to do with it. Now, you can continue to call this a stupid conversation, but you’re only making yourself look bad because this conversation was never about that. Please get back on topic or I will put my mod hat on and give you a warning.