I noticed this “fight” with fighting by Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reading a poem saying , “We hope that the Supreme Court will open its eyes.” with the House Democrats gathered on the steps of the Capitol building and sang “God Bless America” .
I also noticed the “fight” continues in orders of magnitude with President Joe Biden calling the decision “sad” and urged “Congress to restore protections of Roe v. Wade as federal law,” which everyone knows will never happen.
Not tomorrow, but currently, only twelve states have anti abortion laws. Others are working on it. Wisconsin said it wouldn’t enforce it’s trigger law, it’s outdated. Of course it’s a fight. What did you expect?
The new reality for today and tomorrow - abortion is now or will imminently become illegal in at least 21 states with a combined population of 135 million people. For the vast majority of working women, travel to the mostly coastal states where abortion remains legal will not be an option.
A woman’s life IS MORE IMPORTANT that a fetus, which is a human potentiality, sacred perhaps, but death is also sacred, that’s why so many abort naturally (God"s will). A fetus does not take on the mantel of peoplehood until it takes it first breaths of air.
A woman has the right to sovereignty over her own body and the right to self-defense!!!
Oh, and for the record, our Gods are created from within ourselves, stop letting them tell you differently!
by Rabbi Raymond A. Zwerin & Rabbi Richard J. Shapiro
Summary | Whatever their opinions on abortion in any given situation, a vast majority of Jewish thinkers agree that decision-making with respect to abortion must be left in the hands of the woman involved, who may consult her husband, her physician, and her rabbi.
These are the guiding principles on abortion in Jewish tradition: a woman’s life, her pain, and her concerns take precedence over those of the fetus; existing life is always sacred and takes precedence over a potential life; and a woman has the personal freedom to apply the principles of her tradition unfettered by the legal imposition of moral standards other than her own.
The issue of abortion in Jewish life is both complex and multi-faceted, with roots going back to the Bible. Its complexity is due, in large measure, to the reluctance of Jewish legal authorities to establish a single principle by which to determine the morality of abortion. Within the context of an overriding Jewish concern for the sanctity of human life, legal authorities have relied largely on individual cases and derivative legal concepts in determining when an abortion may take place. Especially during the 20th century, the increased diversity of traditions and practices within the Jewish community has naturally led to a diversity of approaches to the abortion issue. Nonetheless, out of this complex diversity a clear, general concept can be adduced from the centuries of Jewish tradition; and it is that concept which this article will address.
There are four aspects to the issue of abortion in Jewish tradition: (1) the legal status of the embryo/fetus, (2) the time of ensoulment, (3) conditions under which a therapeutic abortion may take place, and (4) conditions under which a non-therapeutic abortion may take place.
If this decision is based on the Constitutional line; “Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”, the SCOTUS placed the right to life of an unborn fetus (potential human) over the right to Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness over the existing woman.
This is the worst decision the court has ever made. The arrogance of that decision is stunning.
Every woman can now consider 6 persons as having declared they are an existential threat to their “Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness!”
The thought that came to mind was the opening scene to Idiocracy. While the Dems/Liberals are all worried about being reasonable, fair, “woke”, thinking things through, being respectful to others, even one’s “enemies”, the Republicons are tearing the place up, in concert like a pack of dogs.
Said it before, will say it again. The Dems/Liberals bring butter knives to a machine gun fight. The only upside I can see, and this is an upside to Trump having been potus too, is that now the true enemy is in plain site for all to see.
Democratic non leadership and the consciousness of the working class. It takes an young activist to explain how we got here and real actions to be taken while Pelosi and biden focus on party donations and reading poems.
Yes, all bad because they have their religious agenda and it will affect many families, including some on this board, adversely. They’d be tearing families apart.
Dems have done more than the Repugs have. When President Obama was in office, we got out of the recession. When the Shrub was in office, we ended up in a recession. When Repugs were in office, LBGT had no right, but when Dems were in office, LBGT got the right to marry. Dems were in office when interracial marriage was legalized and Dems controlled when women got the right to vote, the right to control their own medical decisions (abortion became legal), and the NRA came about. Illinois is generally a Dem state and they passed the NRA before any other state approved it.
What have the Repugs been about? Denying minorities, including women, human rights. Repugs are about controlling people and while they say they are about small government, they are in fact about large theocracy government. How do you expect them to enforce their illegal abortion laws? With more government nosing in on women’s health care, making sure her miscarriage wasn’t really an abortion, but if they think it was an abortion, even though it was a miscarriage, the woman will get locked up. That’s an authoritarian government. Yeah, Repugs do a lot to control people, especially minorities (which includes women too). Men will be the majority ruling class again and they will not Remember the Women (Jane Adams). Repugs take away human rights that Dems gave.
Let’s not forget infrastructure. Dems put money or want to put money into the infrastructure, but Repugs do not. If we don’t put more money into infrastructure and fix it, even modernize it, it will crumble, making it more difficult for goods and services to get through, which means food won’t get to grocery stores and alike. There will be more food deserts, as well as other issues. Repugs don’t care about anything except greedy corporations, who have made them rich.
Repugs don’t give a damn if people die and they have become the party of death, but I guess you like death, because you support Repugs.
You obviously agree to some part with the sentiment of what i said. Did you bother to watch the clip before you asked this?
The young activists had to educate the msnbc hack that democrats had opportunities over the past 40 to codify abortion rights but did nothing about it with the takeaway message being time to get rid of old established leadership and mobilise in November to vote for young progessives. The democrats are so disorganised and promote themselves as a hopeless vassal for change when they pitch for your vote in November but cannot say what they will do to try and overcome this.
Have you heard any one of them raise the suggestion of providing these services on federal lands ( eg military bases) in states that ban abortion? The dems cant even bring themselves say the word abortion so good luck in energising your base to come out and vote.
No one ever thought Roe v Wade had to be codified any more than the right to marry someone of a different skin colour had to be. I bet if you looked that’s not codified either and Clarence, if he keeps going may find he accidentally dissolve his own marriage.
Now you want Roe v Wade codified? Maybe all men should be ordered by law to have vasectomies AND women refrain from sex, less they are raped, then it’s the man’s (or men’s) fault, not the woman’s. Now that’s codifying it.
You haven’t been listening. Dems say the word all the time and have said it a lot in the last few days. You haven’t been listening.
Again, you weren’t actually listening- Biden did say the word abortion in his speech after the Dotard’s court overturned Roe v Wade. Didbidensayabortion site is not a reliable site, because they are spreading propaganda.
Dario AS isn’t much either. It doesn’t even fall on the media bias charts. Same goes for Indy 100.
Newsweek OK, it falls in the center, but again, meh. I don’t believe Former President Obama forecast this, so given that, I don’t know why you are harping on what Obama did. Congress (both sides) could have codified (the president does not do this) back in the seventies after it became “the law of the land”, but they did not. If you want to play go back in history, let’s go back to 1973 when it all happened. Ford, a Repug, didn’t touch it, of course. Carter, a Dem, believed it was the law of the land. Reagan, a Repug. didn’t touch it. That about covers the 70s and 80s. It should have been done then, if you want to play the blame game, but no one saw this coming then either. So all your sources blasting the party you hate, doesn’t cut it, given that abortion was legalized in 1973. Both parties had the chance in the 70s and 80s. Neither did it and it’s not the Dems fault.
So before you post, check to see if it is reliable or propaganda or not even worth anyone’s time because it’s not even a blimp on media evaluators grids. I’ll let you have Newsweek though, but the article doesn’t mean anything, given how many years both parties had. So you can’t blame President Obama since a president cannot codified anything. That’s congress’ job. And you cannot blame President Biden either. It’s not the president’s job to codified laws.
No, he didn’t have a majority. At the time, the Senate was mostly Repugs. And why should abortion be at the top of the list when we had at least two generations believing that abortion was the law of the land since the 70s.
Again, blaming President Obama does not fly because 1. the president does not codify laws and 2. if the president could, then those in 73 and up to the 90s should have already done it. None of those presidents did, because they can’t. ONLY congress can codify laws, NOT presidents.
The first thing i will do only to turn around and say not a priority when in power
In 2007, when Barack Obama was running for president, he promised that “the first thing I’d do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act,” which would affirm abortion rights and effectively codify Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark decision that guaranteed abortion rights as constitutionally protected.
Then-presidential candidate Obama made this promise on July 17, 2007 in a speech to the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, which works to fight for laws and policies to protect reproductive rights and advance access to sexual health care.
Obama referred to it again on Jan. 22, 2008, the 35th anniversary of Roe v. Wade.
