What a terrible thought russia and ukraine reach a peace deal as neighbouring countries. Rage quit would not be out of the question.
No one here said a peace deal would be bad. But it has to be actual peace, not a surrender to Putin that would make life for Ukranians over a longer term.
What would be wrong with that? As long as Putin doesn’t force the Ukrainians to surrender and allows them to keep their country, separate from Russia, then that would be a real peace deal. The Ukrainian land does not belong to Russia. Prussia didn’t belong to Russia either and today nor does any other bordering country. This is not 1940 where Russia forcefully gobbles up other countries, claiming them as its own and eventually hiding them behind an iron curtain. And it cannot bang a shoe on the table and threaten bury anyone either (1970s). Russia’s iron fist fell around 1991 or shortly there after. It doesn’t need another iron fist or iron curtain. Russia’s leader is more criminal anymore than anything else and here lately, Putin has me thinking my grandfather was right. He often said, “We should have went after Russia after bombing Japan.” Stalin would probably be proud of Russia, which is not a good thing either.
In other words, Russia does not look good to the rest of the world and the only way it can save face is to stop attempting to claim Ukraine, and any other country, as its own and stop killing people. If Russia does take over Ukraine I bet Putin won’t stop, any more than Stalin stopped. Putin has Georgia and now wants Ukraine to have a land bridge to the sea. Putin just keeps on, just like Stalin and I seriously do not believe he will stop anymore than Stalin did, if the world does not stop him now. Very few countries, if any, likes Russia right now.
Oops! OK I’ll stop telling the Russki our secrets. Do I need to enlist the Code Breakers, just in case he has some sort of code too? I can get them easily with a quick smoke signal.
Keep your eyes and ears open to what is happening in Bakhmut. Its a significant battle.
What are we supposed to keep our eyes and ears open for?
The entire f’n war is horrifically significant - even most of have been able to put it out of our minds. I mean how much horror is a human supposed to be able to absorb and process while retaining a shred of humanity???
What is so different, beyond strategic location, etc, etc.?
Here’s an interesting message from the Ukrainian government, that predates the war. It gives some background you might want to process .
For the details link to:
https://mfa.gov.ua/en/10-facts-you-should-know-about-russian-military-aggression-against-ukraine
10 facts you ought to know about Russian military aggression against Ukraine
19 December 2019 17:40
Fact 1: Russia planned military aggression against Ukraine in advance. Victory of the revolution of dignity was only a convenient pretext …
Fact 2: russian aggression aimed at destroying ukraine as an independent state …
Fact 3: military aggression is just one element of Russian hybrid warfare against Ukraine … .
Fact 4: courage of ukrainians and solidarity of the international community stopped Russian invasion …
Fact 5: russian aggression has led to dire humanitarian impacts …
Fact 6: Russia violates the Minsk agreements on a regular basis …
Fact 7: by launching military aggression against Ukraine, Russia violated fundamental norms and principles of international law, bilateral and multilateral agreements …
Resorting to the military aggression against Ukraine, Russia violated fundamental norms and principles of international law, enshrined, in particular, in: …
Fact 8: constant inflow of Russian troops and weaponry is the main obstacle to peace in Donbas …
Fact 9: military aggression and hybrid warfare is Russia’s standard practice …
Fact 10: russian aggression can be stopped only …
I visit this thread because I wanted to add another story about those amazing Ukrainian citizens fight to save their country from being taken hostage by the Putin Over Lord and his brand of medieval insanity.
A Citizen-like chatbot allows Ukrainians to report to the government when they spot Russian troops — here’s how it works
Yaroslav Druziuk Apr 18, 2022,
- Before the war the Ukrainian government launched an app to connect citizens with public services.
- Now that app has a chatbot that lets citizens inform the military of Russian troops in their area.
- The Ukrainian government hopes the bot can also be used to receive evidence of Russian war crimes.
Oh but then we find our selves in the grim reality, Russia is more than willing to totally destroy that country, scorching every city and beautiful crop lands and kill every standing human they can find. For what, trying to reimagine the Russian monarchy - it’s ludicrous, satanically evil & vicious. And all for ego.
PUTIN HAS SPOKEN, THE WORLD MUST KOWTOW or else!
MY Ego is GOD must obey,
must obey, must obey, must obey,
THE MASTER has spoken, you are mine or you will be destroyed.
So doofdoof, who’s side are you on, the dictators?
Not to mention the idiot Putin is destroying what’s left of his own pathetic country
The strategic value is minimal. More about a political win, to look good. Using prisoners as infantry, disorganized, pretty much what I’ve been hearing for months.
Putin is a sick man who needs to stop and get psychological help. He won’t, but he should.
If you are going down that route you be better to call out the will of the Russian people and not isolate this to one person
Russian jails are full with protesters against the war.
Mar 22, 2022 — More than 15,000 Russians have been arrested in anti-war protests · Despite Vladimir Putin’s crackdown, people continue to take to the streets.
More than 15,000 Russians have been arrested in anti-war protests
That’s like saying all of the people of Germany were mentally ill when Hitler was their leader. That’s is not a true statement. A true statement is what I said, Putin is a sick man, who needs psychological help.
Truth being most russians support the war effort and in fact are crtitical of the russian govt in that they want the war ended with the army going in much harder to finish ukraine off
Evidence please.
Statements from Russian troops, given to non-Russian journalists, independent authors, a rally opposing the protests, anything?
Hmmm, are your words to be trusted?
What about these Russians?
In fact your main news stable the WaPo has to concede the polls on this and in fact modt russian are pushing for peace resolution but will not let crimea and donbas go
Without any proof this amounts to neaningless drivel. Just because you say so does NOT make it true. You have no standing as an authority.
A poll result would count as evidence, but it depends who did it. Russia doesnt allow polsters from outside the country, AFAIK.
I don’t know where you get that information. Probably from some Russian government propaganda site, for all I know.
I gave it to you on a platter when i referred to WaPo and youre still complaining!
Said with such authority and sureness
Check out the latest poll from the Chicago Council-Levada Center survey in Russia