Kobe Bryant_August 23, 1978/ January 26, 2020

Also if I am not the body then what am I? If there is no one then why type up replies or argue against this? If there is no one then who is typing this up? There are many problems with arguing against a self, the above being the least of which.

Also you can’t cite Buddhist text because Buddhist doesn’t say the self doesn’t exist.

Xain: Also if I am not the body then what am I?
You (Xain) are a figure of speech. It's like calling your dog "Spot". It's a handle like yo or bro!
If there is no one then why type up replies or argue against this?
That's the way it is! It's what we are? Non-existent entities. Nobody talking to no one.
If there is no one then who is typing this up?
Who knows? Ghosts? This is the way it is. Why does it have to be a "who" or "what"?
There are many problems with arguing against a self, the above being the least of which.
The self is akin to a non-existent "person".
Also you can’t cite Buddhist text because Buddhist doesn’t say the self doesn’t exist.
Buddhism is superstition and their canons are concocted by monks. Nobody knows what the Buddha taught. It's true! Western academics in religious studies poured through the Pali texts and couldn't trace anything. The natives are clueless.
Buddhism is superstition and their canons are concocted by monks. Nobody knows what the Buddha taught. It’s true! Western academics in religious studies poured through the Pali texts and couldn’t trace anything. The natives are clueless.
This is patently false.
That’s the way it is! It’s what we are? Non-existent entities. Nobody talking to no one.
As is this one. You really have no clue about anything do you?

Your entire claim is false. I am a body, pure and simple.

It’s not my claim, Xain. Nobody knows what the Buddha taught. Academics did research and couldn’t find anything transmitted from the Buddha. It’s folklore.

The same can be said about Jesus, Confucius and Lao Tsu, a fictitious figure.

It’s not my claim, Xain. Nobody knows what the Buddha taught. Academics did research and couldn’t find anything transmitted from the Buddha. It’s folklore.
Again, so patently false. Just like your claims that we aren't the body.

Also Confucious and Laozi definitely existed, not sure on Jesus. You just prove your ignorance.

so technically it wouldn’t be me handing anything over
I think that's why they call em 'remains.'

Seriously though, toss all the words at it you want, the body is real, it’s an incredible living material structure interwoven with other structures that make sure that other structures operate properly in order to . . . bones to connections to muscles, all accommodating nerves and plumbing, cleaning and maintenance - dance all the head games you want this is real - the brain is real, our senses and feeling are real, and if any of that body stops operating in split second coordination with all other parts of that person, that wonder material body starts breaking down, beyond certain limits it dies.

 

The world we perceive is real, even if we can only perceive slivers of it, and can never hope for ultimate answers. Because ultimately no on knows, and it doesn’t matter.

But here and now, during this one moment you have been gifted by the universe and providence, to be a complex body that can support a sentient and curious brain. That’s real as hell, though somewhat fragile.

Just as the nerves from our brain physically extends way further into the body and gut that anyone expected just decades ago;

so too, the whole of our bodies and the awareness our brains create, and the sense that reach out into the real world, feed it’s perception into the brain, along with setting the rules for what it takes to survive and prosper or die.

In a real natural world Xain, your attitude would result in curling up, since it don’t matter, then something for whom life did matter would see you and eat you. It takes all types to make the world go round.

In a real natural world Xain, your attitude would result in curling up, it don’t matter,

then be eaten up by something for whom life did matter.


You mean by the ignorant. Animals don’t seem to have much of a choice. They just act.

no not by the ignorant, shut up for a change and listen to things instead of immediately going off like some kind of response algorithm.

But, whatever, I’ll admit, this is as much a writing project as discuss with you, which is like talking to the wall.

Be whatever you want, but don’t expect anyone to care.

I am listening but nothing you say negates the reality. Animals are largely ignorant of meaning or purpose. They don’t ask why they do. Hence there is something to be said about life meaning or mattering only to the ignorant. Those who don’t know or see the void life truly is.

Also Confucious and Laozi definitely existed, not sure on Jesus.
Who cares about them? Take it to the Religion Board and stop shitting on this one.

This is about living an aware life capable of appreciating the moments, the opportunities, challenges that life lays before you.

 

For me the astounding adventure never seems to end, cascading from one adventure to another.

I came home tonight, beside Maddy who was happy to see me, I barely had a chance to settle in when my little neighbor pal “Speedy Delivery Service” brought over some collected mail. I said thanks and he walks in past me announcing: “I know your name, Peter.” What’s funny is that he’s known and used my name for quite a while now, a years worth and more I’m sure.

4 2/3 year old, and I could go on for paragraphs about his visit, but will spare you. He starting last spring he visits occasionally to play and jabber away. With texts and video we keep mom posted and it’s become routine. Though usually Paula is home and she takes the lead. It’s probably been a month since I spent time with him.

Now today’s mind blower, was the listening to him. Besides his physical growth and increased coordination bouncing on our bed. Was that for the first time it felt like we had a grown up like conversation. Previously, it was leading questions, or he was rambling on with him a stories, part real happening but dosed with imagination, and sort of one-way. Now he’s telling me about the bully girl in his preschool and answering questions I asked matter of factly. It was trip.

Couple days ago I watched my baby grandson matriculate to kiddo. Today I’m watching my neighbor kiddo pal, matriculating into full fledged kid. It’s beautiful because it makes my heart soar. And it bring joy to others.

I been pondering it, I’m not even looking for them, but there they are.

Providence puts them in front of me, and for whatever reasons, it’s not mine to figure that out, my choice is what will I do with the moment, the challenge.

Mom left me with a well developed paternal instinct. I’m a natural look 'em in eye, making connections. Don’t understand beyond that. It’s funny I know who I am to myself, but can’t for the life of me figure out what others see in me.

Animals are largely ignorant of meaning or purpose.
You can only say that because you are clueless. Not trying to be mean, but you don't know anything about what animals feel.

Come on, you seem to be proud of not having any empathy for other humans, how could you possibly judge an animals intelligence?

Besides, it’s totally besides the point.

 

One of my thoughts after my lil pal went back home and I was left pondering the day. Is the other side to all of this Xain.

It’s not just about you, there are other people in your life.

I matters to other people. How I feel and behave effects their lives. And what’s wrong with a sense of responsibility towards others?

How you live helps create the community around you - healthy or unhealthy.

I live like it matters, because it does matter to my family and friends and beyond.

I’m of the mind that we are social creatures and we are here to help each other, it’s evolution and biology.

 

You can only say that because you are clueless. Not trying to be mean, but you don’t know anything about what animals feel.

Come on, you seem to be proud of not having any empathy for other humans, how could you possibly judge an animals intelligence?

Besides, it’s totally besides the point.


I’m not clueless but it seems you are. Implying animals live with meaning or that things matter is a human centered view of the world.

One of my thoughts after my lil pal went back home and I was left pondering the day. Is the other side to all of this Xain.

It’s not just about you, there are other people in your life.

I matters to other people. How I feel and behave effects their lives. And what’s wrong with a sense of responsibility towards others?

How you live helps create the community around you – healthy or unhealthy.

I live like it matters, because it does matter to my family and friends and beyond.

I’m of the mind that we are social creatures and we are here to help each other, it’s evolution and biology.


There are challenges to the social creatures claim as it only applies to those in the tribe not all humans (the recent trend is culture not biology). Second how you feel doesn’t impact anyone else, what you do does but that’s more cause and effect. However that is not the same as mattering. Your friends and family haven’t seen the truth of reality so you can’t really cite them as saying something matters. It’s like a flat-earther saying other people believe it too so the Earth is flat.

The “adventure” you purport is not real. It’s still and illusion, a dream you are living. It’s not reality. Life is not an adventure, it just is. Nothing more or less so stop trying to making it more than what it truly is.