Is this the largest mass grave ever proven to exist at BELZEC, CHELMNO, PONARY, SOBIBOR or TREBLINKA II?Don’t you know that the holocaust is a hoax? It’s all trick photography and lies.. Lois’sI'm looking for help locating the sceintificl proof that there is a larger mass grave (one that contains the remains of at least 7 people) at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor or Treblinka II, than the one shown above. (Which was excavated at Sobibor.) Thanks in advance.
Since when is cremation of a dead body a miracle or magic?
Lausten:
...there are other people who have found hundreds of thousands of bodies worth of cremated remains...Lausten, #52 - The MAXIMUM number of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated - discernable / measurable extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. that you can currently prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that have actually been located / proven to exist in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed scientifically verified human remains; is no less than __?__. #53 - The MAXIMUM number of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated - discernable / measurable extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. that you can currently prove - with the same standard of proof applied in U.S. criminal courts - that have actually been located / proven to exist in which legitimate archaeologists / forensic investigators have, via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented methodology - literally unearthed the remains of at least 21 people; is no less than __?__. #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people.
Beltane:
OK then -- over 2.1 million.Try to keep up Beltane. We are only talking about Sobibor at the moment, where the remains of 250,000 jews are allegedly buried in the 20 "huge mass graves." And on that note, I have a reply from The National Association of Forensic Historians:
* * * * The first 16 of the 20 so-called “huge mass graves" of Sobibor (#1/56 though #16/71 of the alleged 90) are shown in the map on page 7 in this link here: http://sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Report-by-Y.Haimi-Autumn-2013.pdf And the last 4 so-called “huge mass graves" of Sobibor (#17/72 though #20/75 of the alleged 90) are shown and numbered in the map on page 5 in this link here: http://sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Autumn_2015-Y.-Haimi.pdf And the grave numbering system for Sobibor is:
#1 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #1 / 56
#2 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #2 / 57
“Memory Hill” (AKA the - “mound of ashes / remains”) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #3 / 58
#3/4 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #4 / 59
#5 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #5 / 60
#6 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #6 / 61
#7 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #7 / 62
#8 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #8 / 63
#9 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #9 / 64
#10 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #10 / 65
#11 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #11 / 66
#12 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #12 / 67
#13 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #13 / 68
#14 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #14 / 69
#15 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #15 / 70
#16 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #16 / 71
#17 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #17 / 72
#18 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #18 / 73
#19 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #19/ 74
#20 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #20 / 75
I think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP:
Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at Sobibor
Yes or no?
If your answer is no, then please answer this question:
#54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than ? people.
Since when is cremation of a dead body a miracle or magic?
I think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP: Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at Sobibor Yes or no? If your answer is no, then please answer this question: #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people.I think this would be a good to remind you of the forum rules (h) Threads that consist of repetitive posting of the same comments, information, or links without meaningful development or responsive discussion will be considered a form of spamming or trolling and may be locked or deleted at the Moderators’ discretion. The first question can be answered No. Unless of course you make something up about how "remains" have to be complete skeletons or something. The second question is malformed. But we have fixed it and then answered it more than once.
#1 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #1 / 56 #2 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #2 / 57 "Memory Hill" (AKA the - "mound of ashes / remains") = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #3 / 58 #3/4 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #4 / 59 #5 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #5 / 60 (on the lower left in the photo below)#6 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #6 / 61 #7 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #7 / 62 #8 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #8 / 63 #9 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #9 / 64 #10 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #10 / 65 #11 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #11 / 66 #12 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #12 / 67 #13 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #13 / 68 #14 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #14 / 69 #15 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #15 / 70 #16 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #16 / 71 (on the lower right in the photo below)
#17 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #17 / 72 #18 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #18 / 73 #19 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #19/ 74 #20 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #20 / 75
I think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP: Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at Sobibor Yes or no? If your answer is no, then please answer this question: #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people....The first question can be answered No. ... Waiting for your answer to the second question Lausten.
I think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP: Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at Sobibor Yes or no? If your answer is no, then please answer this question: #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people....The first question can be answered No. ... Waiting for your answer to the second question Lausten. I answered it above.
I think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP: Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at Sobibor Yes or no? If your answer is no, then please answer this question: #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people....The first question can be answered No. ... Waiting for your answer to the second question Lausten. I answered it above. Sorry, can't see it. Was your answer 21 exactly, more than 21, or less than 21?
I think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP: Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at Sobibor Yes or no? If your answer is no, then please answer this question: #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people....The first question can be answered No. ... Waiting for your answer to the second question Lausten. I answered it above. Sorry, can't see it. Was your answer 21 exactly, more than 21, or less than 21? Estimates are hundreds of thousands. It required some explanation, but I can see you get bored after reading 3 or 4 words. Search for Belzec, I specifically referred to it, but Sobibor has the same history.
I think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP: Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at SobiborLausten's answer to question #1:Yes or no? If your answer is no, then please answer this question: #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people.
No.Lausten's answer to question #2:
hundreds of thousandsSo which of the following "huge mass graves:"
#1 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #1 / 56 #2 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #2 / 57 “Memory Hill" (AKA the - “mound of ashes / remains") = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #3 / 58 #3/4 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #4 / 59 #5 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #5 / 60 #6 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #6 / 61 #7 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #7 / 62 #8 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #8 / 63 #9 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #9 / 64 #10 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #10 / 65 #11 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #11 / 66 #12 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #12 / 67 #13 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #13 / 68 #14 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #14 / 69 #15 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #15 / 70 #16 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #16 / 71 #17 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #17 / 72 #18 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #18 / 73 #19 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #19/ 74 #20 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #20 / 75currently contains the remains of no less than __hundreds of thousands__ people.
#1 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #1 / 56
#2 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #2 / 57
“Memory Hill” (AKA the - “mound of ashes / remains”) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #3 / 58
#3/4 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #4 / 59
#5 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #5 / 60 (on the lower left in the photo below)
#6 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #6 / 61
#7 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #7 / 62
#8 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #8 / 63
#9 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #9 / 64
#10 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #10 / 65
#11 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #11 / 66
#12 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #12 / 67 (on the right containing 6 skeletons in the photo below)
#13 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #13 / 68 (on the left containing 1 skeleton in the photo below)
#14 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #14 / 69
One skeleton was found in this so-called “huge mass grave.”
#15 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #15 / 70
#16 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #16 / 71 (on the lower right in the photo below)
#17 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #17 / 72
#18 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #18 / 73
#19 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #19/ 74
#20 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #20 / 75
Assuming I have unlimited time and resources, how would I verify the numbers you supplied? I would need to know what you are talking about before I could say what was or wasn’t at grave #12.
Meanwhile, I’ll rely on sources like this Operation Reinhard Mass Graves: Graves in Sobibor - Holocaust Denial on Trial. It supplies references which can be checked. If you know of any problems with those references, I would be very interested in your reasoning.
Assuming I have unlimited time and resources, how would I verify the numbers you supplied? I would need to know what you are talking about before I could say what was or wasn't at grave #12. Meanwhile, I'll rely on sources like this https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/or10-graves-sobibor/. It supplies references which can be checked. If you know of any problems with those references, I would be very interested in your reasoning.
Still waiting for your answer LaustenI think this would be a good time to repost my updated OP: Is this the largest mass grave (in terms of quantity of remains) ever proven to exist at SobiborLausten's answer to question #1:Yes or no? If your answer is no, then please answer this question: #54 - It is known - via a preponderance of scientific evidence - that; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 20 claimed / alleged / insinuated extant graves of Sobibor identified by The N.A.F.H. - currently contains the remains of no less than __?__ people.
No.Lausten's answer to question #2:hundreds of thousandsSo which of the following "huge mass graves:"#1 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #1 / 56 #2 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #2 / 57 “Memory Hill" (AKA the - “mound of ashes / remains") = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #3 / 58 #3/4 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #4 / 59 #5 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #5 / 60 #6 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #6 / 61 #7 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #7 / 62 #8 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #8 / 63 #9 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #9 / 64 #10 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #10 / 65 #11 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #11 / 66 #12 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #12 / 67 #13 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #13 / 68 #14 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #14 / 69 #15 (8/15) = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #15 / 70 #16 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #16 / 71 #17 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #17 / 72 #18 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #18 / 73 #19 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #19/ 74 #20 = Sobibor “huge mass grave" #20 / 75currently contains the remains of no less than __hundreds of thousands__ people.
Here is the updated (and easier to follow) guide to the 20 fraudulently alleged “huge mass graves” of Sobibor. (In which the remains of 250,000 jews are allegedly buried.)
* * * * The first 16 of the 20 so-called “huge mass graves" of Sobibor (#1/56 though #16/71 of the alleged 90) are shown in the map on page 7 in this link here: http://sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Report-by-Y.Haimi-Autumn-2013.pdf And the last 4 so-called “huge mass graves" of Sobibor (#17/72 though #20/75 of the alleged 90) aionre shown and numbered in the map on page 5 in this link here: http://sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Autumn_2015-Y.-Haimi.pdfAnd The National Association of Forensic Historians grave numbering system for Sobibor is (see following post):