The public is way to the left of Republicans and the Corporate Democrats on these. -- anton
Still not able to tell just what you're trying to do or say or expect in return. I thought we clarified that you wanted some examples of policies that show that we are a divided nation. The examples I gave are highly contested by half the country at least, probably more, but not everyone speaks up on policies. There are also millions who like the policies I listed. At least 25% of voters do, and they manage to control the Senate and governors and keep laws from being changed by getting involved at the local level.
You listed some liberal policies and included climate change which is a scientific theory and included money in politics which I think everyone hates, except those who get the money. For healthcare, Medicare, Medicaid and SSI are some of the most popular programs in US history, but there is this weird twist that some people think they should get it but others shouldn’t. I’m not sure how they justify that and I would call them “fringe”, not a group that really should have a say on policy.
Why did you pivot and ignore universal healthcare? Why did you focus in on peoples acceptance of theory rather than action on climate change?
The conversation is going towards america is clearly not divided down the middle with the majority public running against the corporate party duopoly position policies here.
This is clear on matters that can really make a positive difference to peoples lives
The conversation is going towards america is clearly not divided down the middle with the majority public running against the corporate party duopoly position policies here
That statement seems a bit self-contradictory. If there is a public and a corporate party, that's a division right there.
Why did you pivot and ignore universal healthcare?
Medicaid, Medicare and SSI are in the direction of universal healthcare. I was addressing it by point out the popularity of those policies.
Why did you focus in on peoples acceptance of theory rather than action on climate change?
because "climate change" is not a policy. I was pointing that out. It didn't make sense in the list.
“That statement seems a bit self-contradictory. If there is a public and a corporate party, that’s a division right there”
The point being the public is not divided 50/50 on these matter but rather the majority is skewed to the left of the political spectrum which includes to the left of the Democrat and Republican parties. America divided down the middle is the wrong projection.
“Medicaid, Medicare and SSI are in the direction of universal healthcare. I was addressing it by point out the popularity of those policies.”
You’re pivoting again and not addressing the vast support for Univerisal HealthCare - Medicare for All which is a single-payer, national health insurance program to provide everyone in America with comprehensive health care coverage, free at the point of service with no networks, no premiums, no deductibles, no copays, no surprise bills.
The majority of American support this. The duopoly does not.
“because “climate change” is not a policy. I was pointing that out. It didn’t make sense in the list.”
The action on climate change is dictated by governement policy, weighed heavily on political ideological leanings rather than the science itself.
The majority of the American public want action on climate change
I think you are coming a little more in to focus. I agree, America has been under minority rule, probably since it began. Now it’s large corporate interests. But, those corporations are America, and Americans work there, so many people see their survival tied to accepting that oppression. They don’t call it “oppression”, they just bitch about work and consider it normal. Also, I believe that the majority of non-voters are liberal, probably by a wide margin. But we can’t know that for sure.
What I can’t tell from what you’ve said so far is if you think these liberal policies are good or not. To me, I don’t call taking care of your neighbor “liberal”. So I don’t think of universal healthcare as a political thing, but just a decent thing.
No, not “the middle”. A majority don’t want Roe v Wade overturned. A majority (a vast majority) want common sense gun regulations. A majority want lower taxes for themselves instead of rich people and corporations.
So you agree with me that america is in fact not divided in the down middle on the things that really matter -- anton
Now that I finally understand what you are saying, yes, I agree. There was never an argument between us, just a lack of clarity.
What media will say, and anyone who is attempting to be clear, is, the ELECTORATE is divided. Also, there is a divide between the urban voters and rural voters. Those divides are very real and they effect the political landscape every day and that effects the health of people, and the environmental health of the world.