@thatoneguy: Well, I don’t really choose to feel superior but it does feel better than feeling inferior.Well said. Superiority is not a matter of choice; it's a blessing. How did that saying go?
Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.William Shakespeare
Just to get some clarity on what where referring to here when we are saying “White people”, are we referring to the people of north Ireland, Finland, Canada, Australia, Scandinavia, Germany, US, Norway? Or are we just going to say all white people from all countries are all the same. That way we can assert that making blanket statements are acceptable on this forum.
When I say “white people” I’m referring to the stupid racist people (ie the few die-hard orange creature supporters) and various White Supremacists groups. I’m not talking about the general population who try to get along with others treating others like human beings, not caring about complexion.
I’m proud of being part of a civilization that uses brain and brawn to create and build extraordinary things, provides the highest standard of living in history and explores nature in a pragmatic way. Nobody else does this.Explores nature in a pragmatic way? You have got to be joking! Take off your blinders, become aware of what's happening throughout our global biosphere. We are cannibalizing it and ourselves.
We are consuming resources and biosphere fast as possible, we are shifting our climate engine towards a regime not seen since the dinosaurs. A regime that will make our global society impossible. Actually will make human life impossible before the cascading consequences we’ve set into motion play out. You can ridicule the notion and ignore it’s reality - but it’s still happening and it’ll catch up to your smug silliness soon enough.
@Mriana, your confession about the way you are using the term “white people” is self-incriminating. If you are being cross-examined in a court of law, by ExMachina as the prosecutor bringing a charge against you for a hate crime, an unbiased jury would return an unanimous verdict of “guilty as charged”.
@thatoneguy: Well, I don’t really choose to feel superior but it does feel better than feeling inferior.Then I look at the moniker you use to represent yourself.
Self evaluation is an interesting animal.
your confession about the way you are using the term “white people” is self-incriminating. If you are being cross-examined in a court of law, by ExMachina as the prosecutor bringing a charge against you for a hate crime, an unbiased jury would return an unanimous verdict of “guilty as charged”.
I don’t think so, because the NAACP and like groups don’t commit hate crimes against the Klan and other hate groups. It’s the other way around. So if I call the Klan “white people”, it’s just telling it as it is, not a hate crime. What you just said just shows you don’t know about the Klan, Aryan Nation, Neo-Nazis, etc. In their mind, they are “white”, “pure white” with no other ethnicity in them. They call themselves “white” and everyone else who is not pure is not white.
your confession about the way you are using the term “white people” is self-incriminating.Pretty much everything you say is self incriminating Sree, so, coming from you, this doesn't mean much, but let's examine it anyway. Mriana explained what group of people she is referring to, and she defined that group by the behaviors of its members. That's allowed, that's how you have a conversation and reach understandings.
Since we are talking about prejudices here, her definition includes a physical trait because the behavior she is talking about is what that group does when defining itself. You might want to read that again, it’s a little tricky. Think of this way, you wouldn’t have a diverse group of people claiming they were superior based on a physical trait that not all of them had. What we actually have is a group of people calling themselves “white” and claiming some kind of genetic superiority, when in fact, their DNA is not consistent, which just proves how stupid they are and in fact not superior. But it’s what they call themselves, so how else shall I refer to them?
Lausten gets it and he explained it very well.
So then blanketed generalizations against and entire race of people is okay so long as we assume that the person is talking about the hateful ones within that race. So if I use the term black people, Hispanics, or Asians, please note that I’m only referring to the hate groups and not the entire race in general.
Self-evaluation is mandatory for the employee in corporate America. And you begin by listing out your accomplishments, things you achieved that contributed to the team in meeting department goals. And if you are not superior to your peers, be prepared to ship out.
@mitch70 (ExMachina) I don’t think you’re understanding and it’s probably because you don’t have a clue about the ideology of White Supremacist groups, which is in the name. It’s not a generalization of all people of European descent. There you go, there is the difference and if you don’t grasp that… then I don’t know what to tell you. There are “white people” referring to the Klan, Neo-Nazis and other White Supremacist groups and others who think as they do, of which they call themselves “white”, with the ideology of “pure white”, and then there are people of European descent. Does “people of European descent” need to be defined for you too?
And if you are not superior to your peers, be prepared to ship out.
That’s arrogant B.S., Sree.
@Mriana: That’s arrogant B.S., Sree.No bs, Mriana. How do you think American companies manage to survive if they don't meet earnings expectations that must beat those of the previous quarter? I speak from experience having worked in one of the top ten Fortune 500 corporations with operations all over the planet. They hunt for and hire superior candidates fresh out of the best schools in the USA and abroad. And every new hire is appraised to have the qualities and capability to make it to CEO. And if you don't make it, you are out. I believe the US Military also practice this policy: move up or out. Capitalist America is top-notch and brutal. And I say this with pride and affection.
U.S. businesses survive through greed- Corporate Greed. Capitalism is nothing but pure greed and oppression. Seems to me, if you say it with pride and affection you love greed and oppression.
@Mriana: U.S. businesses survive through greed- Corporate Greed. Capitalism is nothing but pure greed and oppression.You are not entirely wrong in this regard. I wouldn't expect you to support the Second Amendment if you are a coyote, a wild pig, a deer, or someone who always end up on the wrong end of a gun. But if you are born lucky, rich and/or smart, you would like capitalism. What is there not to like about fine clothes, nice homes, wonderful people, and living as Almighty God in paradise on planet Earth?
Seems to me, if you say it with pride and affection you love greed and oppression.I don't know what greed is. I was definitely well paid and it incentivized me to be great at what I was doing. Working with smart people to be the best in the business was extremely satisfying. We were not into doing any bad stuff. We were doing what people want in the marketplace. American business success is truly something to be proud of. People may hate Americans but everybody love American products.
But if you are born lucky, rich and/or smart, you would like capitalism.
And there it is! The haves and the have nots, with the have nots on the wrong side. And this is different from racism how?
What is there not to like about fine clothes, nice homes, wonderful people, and living as Almighty God in paradise on planet Earth?
Plenty. Greed oppresses others. Sharing the wealth, so to speak, is far better than hogging everything just because one thinks they are better than the person in the projects. They aren’t better. In fact, I think the greedy oppressor is worse.
You say you don’t know what greed is, but you certainly talk about it as a good thing. I like Toyotas and VW bugs, but that’s another story. Actually, people don’t love U.S. products. Things aren’t made in the U.S. like they use to be. They are made overseas so the greedy corporations can have their modern plantations and pay the modern day slaves almost nothing. They only do slightly better in the States with Amazon and Hellmart, which in and of themselves are modern day plantations that pay modern day slave wages called “minimum wage” and refusing to pay a cent more. Who can live on $7.25/hour (now maybe $8 in some states)? No one. That’s why many people work 3 jobs- add to that, few companies now hire full-time in order to get out of paying benefits, so people need 3 jobs, which isn’t healthy or good. Other countries even do working conditions and alike better. Germany does better. The reason one would do well, in the U.S., is they are good modern slaves who kiss butt and they are rewarded accordingly, but not enough to be equal with the CEO. Which this leads us to the need for unions so people don’t have to kiss butt to have a living wage and benefits. Better yet, we need someone like Bernie Sanders, who also encourages and is supported by unions. With unions, we all can do better without kissing butt and not have to be oppressed by greedy corporations.
Sree said: But if you are born lucky, rich and/or smart, you would like capitalism.Yes and no-one wants to deny anybody wealth if ;
a) it is earned by ecofriendly means
b) it is restricted to a certain generous amount.
There is no possible justification of hoarding billions of dollars, so that the bulk of the income is from “unearned income”, taxed at a lower rate than an office worker who puts in 8h p/day @ $10.00 p/h.
Under Bill Clinton the rich were taxed at a high rate when their income exceeded a certain treshold . As a result the Nation enjoyed a tax surplus which Clinton wanted to apply to the National debt and use the interest savings for social programs such as education, healthcare and environmental conservation.
The point here is that everybody benefits from those programs rich and poor alike. It really confounds me that Capitalism should have to mean get as much as you can, damn the consequences. That’s just stupid. There are some rich people who try to do good with their money but why should it be their favorite charity instead of a general distribution of excess wealth through a percentage increase in taxation?
Obviously, it is Asians who are the superior races. They have supported to production of the most people and have the longest existing civilizations.
Bow whiteys! Bow to your superior Asian humans!
My son is half Asian so I’m quite okay with that.