Hurricane Irma bears down on Tampa after leaving trail of devastation across Florida - latest news
I hope everybody got out of the way, that is truly nasty.
I hope everybody got out of the way, that is truly nasty.Yup. On the bright side Katia in the west Gulf seems to have, er petered out, as Kevin Trenberth would say. ;-P https://earth.nullschool.net
Rush Limbaugh was claiming Irma would veer to the east and head out into the Atlantic off Florida, instead it changed course to the west and is now on track for Tampa which hasn’t had a major hurricane hit for almost a century.
Meteorologists predicted Irma would plow into the Tampa Bay area Monday morning. The area has not been struck by a major hurricane since 1921, when its population was about 10,000, National Hurricane Center spokesman Dennis Feltgen said. Now around 3 million people live there.That's the problem with catastrophic climate change, it is also chaotic. Deniers who base their claims on doubt use this to their advantage, in this case the effects could be tragic if many listened to Limbaugh and assumed Irma was some kind of left wing conspiracy. Irma didn't even need to hit land to be the most powerful Atlantic storm in recorded history, its early wind speeds already established that.
Irma was at one time the most powerful hurricane ever recorded in the open Atlantic with a peak wind speed of 300 km/h last week. It left more than 20 people dead across the Caribbean and as it moved north over the Gulf of Mexico's bathtub-warm water of nearly 90 degrees, it was expected to regain strength.
I hope everybody got out of the way, that is truly nasty.Yup. On the bright side Katia in the west Gulf seems to have, er petered out, as Kevin Trenberth would say. ;-P https://earth.nullschool.net Which demonstrates the point you were making in your hurricane thread, hurricanes gain power when over warm surface water and lose strength when over cold water or land. The warmer the surface temperature of the ocean the more heat there is that can be converted into the circular motion of the hurricane and the faster and more powerful the sustained winds are. The track that Irma is now taking may be the worst possible as it tracks up the west coast of Florida. It will be picking up more and more strength from the very warm Gulf of Mexico water while it creates a strong storm surge along the Florida coast accompanied by powerful winds then hit full force the mainland at Tampa. There is virtually no doubt that climate change has resulted in warmer ocean temperatures and much warmer in some places like the Gulf of Mexico and the mid-Atlantic where these hurricanes form that can and sometimes will produce monster storms like Irma, which to be clear is the strongest Atlantic storm ever recorded when at one point it had sustained wind speeds of over 300 kph(185 mph).
It’s utter chaos in Florida right now.
Want to bet that Limbaugh is enjoying a level of comfort and safety that most of the people in Florida he told to stay put can’t even imagine at the moment.
Climate change contrarians are the biggest hypocrites on Earth.
The daughter of a friend lives in Sarasota, like many Floridians they were caught by surprise, they thought Irma was going to track up the east coast of the state and miss them. Irma is so large and powerful the entire state is getting hammered.
She and her husband decided they didn’t want to risk it on the road and have boarded up everything and are going to sit it out. I guess we’ll hear in a few days how they fared.
That’s one of the issues with the kind of chaotic weather we are getting now, it is very difficult to predict outcomes with systems we have never seen before.
The wildfire situation is still insane here with multiple fires of massive extent, one at 1,200,000 acres, one at 590,000 acres another at 475,000 acres and still another at 61,000 acres.
http://governmentofbc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a1e7b1ecb1514974a9ca00bdbfffa3b1
There is nothing “normal” with what is happening here, in Florida, Mexico, Texas, Cuba and many other places. It is time to stop lying about climate change and do something real to lessen the damage which is going to be immense now no matter what we do.
This has become a survival situation for us all, the time for comfort is gone. As horrible as what is going on now is it is just the beginning.
What a year from hell and it’s just going to get worse according to the science.
Much of North America is still on fire, even though some places have got snow here already, there are still over 100 massive wildfires burning in BC alone.
http://governmentofbc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a1e7b1ecb1514974a9ca00bdbfffa3b1
The hurricanes so far this season have been massive and deadly.
Only the brain dead like Rush Limbaugh still think climate change isn’t happening.
A picture is worth a thousand words…
Photo gallery of BC burning;
Australia on fire 2015;
California on fire this year;
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/multimedia/2017-California-Wildfires-Brush-Fires-420888223.html
Montana on fire;
Siberia on fire;
Hurricane Harvey in Texas;
Hurricane Irma in the Caribbean;
Hurricane Irma in Cuba;
Hurricane Irma Florida;
Puerto Rico after Maria;
All this from something we’ve told over and over for decades isn’t happening…
My home town surrounded by flames is right in the middle of one of these photos, my brother and his wife barely made it out. There were flames on both sides of the road as they fled north and they were the last car before the road was closed.
I spent a day wondering if the water bombers that were making pass after pass almost over my house were going to put out the fire just to the north of where I live, there are hundreds of houses here.
My niece and her husband live in Texas and were on the northern fringes of Harvey.
This is a growing personal tragedy for us all, and we’re being treated as if our very existence is of no consequence because it conflicts with someone making lots and lots of money.
Note, the usual suspects stay far away from this thread.
It must stir a bit of cognitive dissonance so they run and hide.
Life is so much better within their fantasy bubble.
They probably read it and get a secret pleasure knowing they’re bringing such misery to so many lives.
They don’t need to comment on the impacts of their actions, just make sure we don’t change course.
They are clearly psychopaths…
gwcc
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Working on another project and came across this.
May as well touch on the physical roots of the <em>increasingly catastrophic global warming driven cascading consequences</em> we are witnessing throughout the world.
<blockquote>Must-Read Trenberth: How To Relate Climate Extremes to Climate Change
JOE ROMM
MAR 25, 2012
<strong>https://thinkprogress.org/must-read-trenberth-how-to-relate-climate-extremes-to-climate-change-fc5c4a4f5b96/</strong>
Scientists are frequently asked about an event “Is it caused by climate change?"
<strong>The answer is that no events are “caused by climate change" or global warming, but all events have a contribution.
Moreover, a small shift in the mean can still lead to very large percentage changes in extremes.</strong>
In reality the wrong question is being asked: the question is poorly posed and has no satisfactory answer.
The answer is that all weather events are affected by <span style="text-decoration:line-through">climate change</span> global warming ('climate change' is the result)
because the environment in which they occur is warmer and moister than it used to be.
<blockquote><em>The basic story was also told in Scientific American.</em>
<strong>More violent and frequent storms, once merely a prediction of climate models, are now a matter of observation. </strong>
Part 1 of a three-part series
<strong>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/extreme-weather-caused-by-climate-change/</strong></blockquote>
</blockquote>
incidentally, Cascading Consequences would be more appropriate than "climate change" which, if you think, about is a pathetic nothing of a descriptive,
as bland and un-nourishing as white bread.Taking the Long View: The ‘Forever Legacy’ of Climate Change Climate change projections often focus on 2100. But the geological record shows that unless we rapidly reduce greenhouse gas emissions, we will be locking in drastic increases in temperatures and sea levels that will alter the earth not just for centuries, but for millennia. BY ROB WILDER AND DAN KAMMEN • SEPTEMBER 12, 2017 http://e360.yale.edu/features/taking-the-long-view-the-forever-legacy-of-climate-change
SEPTEMBER 25, 2017 Antarctic Glacier Loses Chunk of Ice Four Times the Size of Manhattan http://e360.yale.edu/digest/antarctic-glacier-loses-chunk-of-ice-four-times-the-size-of-manhattan A section of ice more than 100 square miles in size — four times as large as Manhattan — has broken off the Pine Island Glacier in West Antarctica. It is the fifth major calving, or ice loss, event on the glacier since 2000. ... Pine Island alone has the potential to raise global sea level 1.7 feet if it melts completely, The Post reported. In 2015, the glacier lost a piece of ice 220 square miles in size, and recent calving events are originating farther and farther inland, Stef Lhermitte, a satellite observation scientist at Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands, tweeted. In a paper published last year ( https://news.osu.edu/news/2016/11/28/pineisland/ ), scientists reported that rifts in the Pine Island Glacier were originating in the middle and underneath its floating ice shelf, not along its face, which is generally how pieces of ice calve from a glacier. The researchers theorized this was because warmer ocean waters are reaching farther underneath the base of the glacier and the ice shelf. “We predicted that the rifting would result in more frequent calving, which is what’s happening here," Ian Howat, a climate scientist at Ohio State University and co-author of the 2016 study, told The Post. “If new rifts continue to form progressively inland, the significance to ice shelf retreat would be high." ...Oh and okay it'll take more than +3.5°C to melt all the ice (as I recently claimed) according to experts best estimates :-/
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Unfortunately none of what you mention matters. Even more unfortunately it's going to take horrible weather events to change people's minds. And I think it's only partially (but still mostly) due to the politization of climate change. If you've ever been involved with local politics, so many times things don't happen, like getting that new stop sign installed, until it's too late and somebody gets hit or killed. THEN everyone is up in arms as to why it didn't get done earlier. I guess you call it inate human stupidity and inertia.If there were weather conditions that destroyed half the world's land mass and population, the climate deniers who are left will be saying the same thing they say now--that it's a natural cycle and human activity has nothing to do with it. Lois
Unfortunately none of what you mention matters. Even more unfortunately it's going to take horrible weather events to change people's minds. And I think it's only partially (but still mostly) due to the politization of climate change. If you've ever been involved with local politics, so many times things don't happen, like getting that new stop sign installed, until it's too late and somebody gets hit or killed. THEN everyone is up in arms as to why it didn't get done earlier. I guess you call it inate human stupidity and inertia.If there were weather conditions that destroyed half the world's land mass and population, the climate deniers who are left will be saying the same thing they say now--that it's a natural cycle and human activity has nothing to do with it. LoisNah, they'll figure out how to blame it on liberals.
California is once again burning up now in December.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/us/california-wildfire-numbers-trnd/index.html
Barely two months after the wine country fires charred Northern California, the state is once again staring down a spate of wildfires, this time in Southern California. These fires are fueled by some of the strongest Santa Ana winds in recent memory. Here are some eye-popping numbers from these newest fires: The Thomas Fire, the largest of the blazes, is burning through Ventura County toward Los Angeles and is now more than twice the size of Washington, D.C. and showing no signs of slowing. The Thomas Fire is more than three times the size of the Tubbs Fire (36,807 acres), which was the most destructive of the fires in Napa and Sonoma counties back in October.
Climate Change due to Global Warming is here folks. Deny it or not, we’re gonna have to live with it and a lot of human and animal life will die.
The classic story of “Life is inherently risky. There is only one big risk you should avoid at all costs, and that is the risk of doing nothing.”