War Drums in the Ukraine

The selection of the word sometimes- carefully and deliberately choosen. Deciding not to intervene on the side of the oppressed when clear human right violation occur is also a black mark - evil. - See Palestine , Rwandan, East Tmor, Yemen etc

We see the Western media selling its propaganda with the lie that Russias actions were unprovoked. Chomsky asks a good question - name me one other war that was given such description by our media??

“Right now if you’re a respectable writer and you want to write in the main journals, you talk about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, you have to call it ‘the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Chomsky said. “It’s a very interesting phrase; it was never used before. You look back, you look at Iraq, which was totally unprovoked, nobody ever called it ‘the unprovoked invasion of Iraq.’ In fact I don’t know if the term was ever used — if it was it was very marginal. Now you look it up on Google, and hundreds of thousands of hits. Every article that comes out has to talk about the unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.”

“Why? Because they know perfectly well it was provoked,” Chomsky said. “That doesn’t justify it, but it was massively provoked.”

Caitlan’s article is spot on and finshes with

"The reason the mass media have been bleating the word “unprovoked” in unison with regard to this war is because the mass media are propaganda organs of the US empire. Their repetition of this war propaganda slogan exploits a glitch in human cognition known as the illusory truth effect, which makes it difficult for our minds to tell the difference between the experience of hearing something many times and the experience of hearing something that’s true. Just repeatedly inserting the word “unprovoked” into Ukraine war commentary across the board causes people to assume it must have been launched without provocation, because the illusory truth effect can circumvent reason and logic to insert a narrative into the collective consciousness of our civilization.

The fact that all mass media outlets began doing this in unison, against all journalistic training and ethics, shows you just how united the mass media are in service of the US empire. When the need to push a narrative is particularly urgent, the facade of journalistic impartiality and independence drops away, and we see the true face of the most sophisticated propaganda machine that has ever existed"

https://www.informationclearinghouse.info/57719.htm

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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What word would you use? “Always”? Then you have to find somewhere, someone, who is always peaceful, always using their power only for good. Then you have to say what is good. You have never attempted that. You can’t name the evil people in the deep state, and you can’t name someone with any power who lives with integrity and consistently acts in the best interests of all mankind. Or do you have a Constitution written up somewhere, looking for signatures?

I don’t claim me, or my country are perfect, and you think that is some sort of opening for criticism. It’s just who we are. Reality.

I like Chomsky, but he also uses these superlatives. He has a lot more to back them up than you show, but he leaves holes in his arguments too.

There are no holes in his argument here

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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This is merely a claim, saying Russia was provoked. Maybe he can back that up, but I’ve never heard it. Not from you either.

Its in the body of the link you didnt bother to read

" from NATO expansion to backing regime change in Kyiv to playing along with aggressions against Donbass separatists to pouring weapons into Ukraine. There’s also an abundance of evidence that the US and its allies sabotaged a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine in the early weeks of the war in order to keep this conflict going as long as possible to hurt Russian interests."

And in many many other interviews

Opinion | 'Not a Justification but a Provocation': Chomsky on the Root Causes of the Russia-Ukraine War | Common Dreams.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/x6x23n/noam_chomsky_says_the_war_in_ukraine_was/

https://www.frontierweekly.com/articles/vol-55/55-7/55-7-Noam%20Chomsky%20on%20Ukraine%20War.html

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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You assume I didn’t click on your link. You assume I have not read similar articles and speeches with the same POV. You know what happens when you assume?. You think if you give me enough links, i will come around to your opinion. Maybe. Maybe not.

It’s a logical fallacy that if I don’t engage you, If I don’t provide information that contradicts yours, then I’m wrong, then I don’t have that information. There are other reasons for me not engaging you on the topic of Ukraine.

It almost seems that there is so much going on that the profound predictive nature of this one is getting obfuscated. We sort of already went through this last year. Maybe the Russians will be handing out loaves of bread to Europeans this winter. Probably no gas, though. That’s alright. Insulation; it’s a thing.
Maybe a multilingual initiative with lots of printing on the plastic bags holding the bread… So much truth to get out there…

Meanwhile the Americans can hand out slices of American cheese!
In Godzilla Wee Trust
FAFA

NATO upsets ukraine and russia. Says ukraine to give up land but whats remaining of ukraine will join NATO.

NATO is a laughing stock

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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Then why is Russia upset about them?

The war continues to escalate, even as it seems to be petering out.

As regards the information war: I take the laughing stock side of it, but like a bully with a big bat, the NATO is equipped with more than low-grade propaganda. As the lies spill from their lips and their lips lips, and their lips lips lips, and you can imagine the sorts of sounds that are coming out, the bat is circling in the air, and the posture is of one that is ready to swing. If Russia pitches a fast-ball will they strike out?
Or will they change the rules? Ahhh… you forgot about this last option, didn’t you?

What I’m pointing out is, how can NATO be a laughing stock and make Russia think they need to attack Ukraine?

I already explained it perfectly. There is an information war that they are losing, and some of us are laughing. Of course, great apes may laugh before they go into battle, too, so to take the term too lightly would be a mistake. Now Niger is on the horizon, and I’m wondering to what degree is the action in Niger a direct result of these SCALP cruise missiles being sent into Ukraine from France? Clearly they are an escalation in the war, and now the war has a new front… in Africa. It must be far more complicated than Niger suddenly being a Putin puppet state. What is most impressive is that Niger and Putin have the truth on their side.

Here we can witness the consequences of the thick aroma from the Western media sources; no doubt saturating the airwaves in Africa as much as anywhere else. Their pile on the carpet; their noses shoved in it, and they lap away as if it is quality food. This is what makes a laughing stock.

Yes thats correct. And NATO suggesting that ukraine joining NATO as the solution to this conflict shows that Russia is dealing with clowns

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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Still trying to sort this out. Putin feels that the West is trying to encircle him, and might put bases in Ukraine, so he attacks. That sounds like he is taking the EU and its allies seriously. Ukrainians decide to fight with tractors and drones and some pretty good pilots. Putin is forced to take them seriously. The rest of the world takes them seriously and joins their fight. Russia is in a quagmire like they were the last time their regime collapsed. Still trying to find the “NATO is a laughing stock” part.

Thats a big call. NATO has suggested Ukraine should give up land to this quagmire

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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What truth? And cite specific facts that are relevant to that claim.

NATO did not suggest anything. An official of NATO made a suggestion of a possible settlement, without any hard facts to base this on.

Asked whether it was NATO’s official position that Ukraine should give up land in order to join, Jenssen said: “I’m not saying it has to be exactly like that. But it can be a probable solution.”

> Jenssen was careful to stress NATO’s official line: that it was up to Ukraine to decide how and when to engage with Russia.

But, even so, his comments were swiftly dismissed by a top Ukrainian official as “ridiculous” and an “appalling indulgence of murderers”.

“Trading territory for a NATO umbrella? It is ridiculous,” Ukrainian presidential chief of staff, Mihaylo Podolyak, tweeted.

> Podolyak added: “That means deliberately choosing the defeat of democracy, encouraging a global criminal, preserving the Russian regime, destroying international law, and passing the war on to other generations.”

What does that mean? Do you know what quagmire means in this context?

Its a big call to call it a russian quagmire. Do you know what you are talking about?

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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Chief of Staff at NATO. Not a backroom staffer

What do you fear most?”
"I fear that love is not enough "

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