The Vanishing Legacy of Barack Obama

They hated the Taliban but hate even more the corrupt Afgan govt and the US occupation

Ask the Afghan women that question. See what you get.

No resistance. All folded to the Taliban

Or get killed! Are you really that ignorant of Afghanistan ?

Their major export is poppy for illegal opioid drug manufacture.

Which the Taliban destroyed

Mriana thinks its impossible to be anti trump and anti Biden at the same time. As if it’s a contradiction

Sure.

## A booming heroin industry

Opium is woven deeply into the fabric of the conflict in Afghanistan, now the longest war in American history.

The profits from the heroin it produces are used to fund the Taliban, as well as terrorist groups like the so-called Islamic State and Al Qaeda.

And heroin also drives the rampant corruption that is so corrosive to civil society in Afghanistan.

It was clear just how institutionalised poppy cultivation has become when, in 2016, I travelled to an opium farm in what was supposed to be a government-controlled area.

The farmers did not feel any need to try and disguise what they were growing, as thousands of swollen opium poppy heads nodded cheerfully in a field just half an hour from Mazar-e-Sharif airport, and right beside the main road.

The poppies had been scored the night before and overnight the sap had oozed out under a dark scab. Five or six men were working their way steadily through the plants, scraping the sticky latex from the bulbs with a sickle shaped tool, their shalwar kameez brown with opium stains.

Why do Americans always think that history begins from 9/11??

You don’t sound anti-dotard to me.

No time for either party who are appendages of corporate america

You mean 9/11/2001 ?

Why are you quoting news from 5/20/2001 ?

Why don’t you look at history today. I just showed it to you, with link. The US has been trying to eradicate poppy cultivation from the beginning , i.e. 2001 , after the Taliban’s ban on poppy production. Somebody has their facts all mixed up!

How the US military’s opium war in Afghanistan was lost

The US has spent $1.5m a day fighting the opium war in Afghanistan. Why is business still booming?

The objective was to take out the heroin laboratories at the heart of the Taliban’s $200m-a-year opium trade, and it was to involve some 200 similar strikes.

(How the US military's opium war in Afghanistan was lost)

A postmodernist would say that.
Oh well.

Yes, that dreaded postmodernism. I’m sorry to hear you project that so well.

Postmodernism is generally defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection toward what it describes as the grand narratives and ideologies associated with modernism, often criticizing Enlightenment rationality and focusing on the role of ideology in maintaining political or economic power.

Common targets of postmodern criticism include universalist ideas of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, science, language, and social progress.

Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to self-consciousness, self-referentiality, epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, and irreverence

From your link.

The consequences of the virtual disappearance of the opium economy for one year in Afghanistan -except in the Northern Alliance controlled areas- is one of the issues the authors leave largely untouched. One of the most dramatic consequences of the ban was the breakdown of the informal credit system based on opium.

During the second half of 2000 and the first half of 2001, additional hundreds of thousands Afghan refugees were displaced internally or moved towards Pakistan and Iran, amongst them many indebted former poppy farmers unable to live through the winter and defaulting on their seasonal loans.

Farmers were forced to reschedule their payments -one of the direct causes behind the full rebound of poppy cultivation the following year- and sell land, livestock, and even their young daughters (Bearak, 2001, IRIN, 2001).

https://www.tni.org/es/node/12050

Your post modernism is anti intellectual in rejecting history and a grand narrative.

Taliban banned opium production in 2001 with remarkable success according to the UN and have promised now to do the same

Why does your link say the ban lasted 1 year and the US had to spend millions of dollars and heavy bombing strikes to eradicate the poppy agriculture. And it is still around?

Why would you believe the Taliban at all?

The last thing I read is that the Taliban is using poppy profits for their own purposes.

In Islam and especially the Taliban, murder is a negotiable commodity.

Fatwa

CNN.
A “fatwa,” or legal ruling under Islamic law, might offer an opinion on dietary guidelines or on a style of worship. In rarer cases, however, a fatwa may call for death.

Note that this legal ruling can be made by any self-declared Mufti.

Such is the case with the fatwa issued by Zamfara state in northern Nigeria calling for the death of a journalist whose writing about the Miss World pageant was followed by deadly riots.

The state’s deputy governor pronounced the fatwa, saying in part: “Any true Muslim would make sure that this woman’s blood is spilled wherever she is.”

https://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/africa/11/26/fatwa.info/index.html

But for the USA illegal war, invasion and occupation of Afghanistan there would no production of opium in afganistan following on from the 2001 ban and the world’s opium drug problem would be significantly reduced

And what happened to Al Qaida? They would magically disappear?

al-Qaida

Last week the UK defence secretary, Ben Wallace, told Sky when asked about Afghanistan that he was “absolutely worried that failed states are breeding grounds for those types of people” and that “al-Qaida will probably come back”.

Wallace was right to worry about failed states – the 9/11 attacks of 2001 were planned and prepared by al-Qaida in Afghanistan when it was ruled by the Taliban – but wrong about the group making some kind of return. Al-Qaida is already there.

Taliban fighters stand on a vehicle along the roadside in Herat, after Afghan government forces pulled out of the city.

US withdrawal from Afghanistan a mistake, says UK defence secretary
Read more
(US withdrawal from Afghanistan a mistake, says UK defence secretary | Afghanistan | The Guardian)

Just last month, the UN published an assessment based on intelligence received from member states stating that al-Qaida [“is present in at least 15 Afghan provinces”, and al-Qaida in the Indian Subcontinent, an affiliate of the group, “operates under Taliban protection from Kandahar, Helmand and Nimruz provinces.” Al-Qaida’s media celebrate its fighters’ apparently frequent operations in Afghanistan.

Are we all done with the opium conversation?

Why do you ask, do you have something of interest you wish to share…?

Was just checking that you have moved on