Should parents be trained and licensed?

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An interesting topic to be sure, considering how there are some people who have parents that aren’t really in any position to have them.
But even then, the logistics and implementation seem almost impossible.
That being said, should parents have to be screened/tested in order to have children.
http://forbiddentruth.8k.com/childabuse.html
The above is apparently some “model” I saw on another message board about how such a thing would be done. To be honest it sounds very tyrannical.

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An interesting topic to be sure, considering how there are some people who have parents that aren't really in any position to have them. But even then, the logistics and implementation seem almost impossible. That being said, should parents have to be screened/tested in order to have children. http://forbiddentruth.8k.com/childabuse.html The above is apparently some "model" I saw on another message board about how such a thing would be done. To be honest it sounds very tyrannical.
Of course it would be tyrranical. Who would run it, who would enforce it and how, who would make the rules? It's a horrible idea. Besides that it would never work in an advantageous way.
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Well the link was from another board and it supposedly give a “model” of how it would work out. But even after reading it, the thing doesn’t make sense.

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the thing doesn't make sense.
'nough said Not to say that there aren't many incompetent parents out there*. I know from my earlier decades of restaurant and banquet service - when it came to "kid scenes" 4 out of 5 times it was a parent acting like a total arse-hole precipitating the blowout, way the heck more than the poor kids. *but then, how much can you blame people who have never experienced good parenting while they were growing up?
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But the goal is to stop future child abuse and the problems such individuals as adults can cause in society. Children who were abused don’t grow up well, and might harm others.

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I’m trying to remember whether or not it was in B.F. Skinner’s “Walden Two” where I read about child rearing being taken out of the hands of parents as children were raised by professionals. While it seemed “logical”, I enjoyed (and still enjoy) being a parent. I don’t think my kids suffer too badly being raised by this amateur. But are there parents unfit for the task? Certainly.

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I'm trying to remember whether or not it was in B.F. Skinner's "Walden Two" where I read about child rearing being taken out of the hands of parents as children were raised by professionals. While it seemed "logical", I enjoyed (and still enjoy) being a parent. I don't think my kids suffer too badly being raised by this amateur. But are there parents unfit for the task? Certainly.
From your posts, I can well imagine you making a good Dad. Regarding my theory, the question would be: How much of that do you think you learned from your parents?
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I'm trying to remember whether or not it was in B.F. Skinner's "Walden Two" where I read about child rearing being taken out of the hands of parents as children were raised by professionals. While it seemed "logical", I enjoyed (and still enjoy) being a parent. I don't think my kids suffer too badly being raised by this amateur. But are there parents unfit for the task? Certainly.
There's just something cold about children being taken from their parents to be raised by professionals, not to mention the whole thing seems far too impractical if not impossible to implement.
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But the goal is to stop future child abuse and the problems such individuals as adults can cause in society. Children who were abused don't grow up well, and might harm others.
Of course, but that's life. Would you like a society where child rearing is in the hands of a faceless government? By force? That's been tried with disastrous results. This also goes to human rights. Why should children and families be in thrall to a government? Governments haven't done a bang-up job of running foster care systems. There is as at least as much abuse in foster care as there is with natural parents. If we concentrated on providing services to parents--and the society at large--starting with decent wages, day care, health care, decent hpusing and psychological services our society would be ahead of the game. We might even come up to Scandinavian standards.
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According to the article it wants to dissolve the family unit and have society take responsibility to raise children.
I was going to say how is having a license to have a child any different than getting a drivers license or something. But then I realized that these are humans and humans are complicated.

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I'm trying to remember whether or not it was in B.F. Skinner's "Walden Two" where I read about child rearing being taken out of the hands of parents as children were raised by professionals. While it seemed "logical", I enjoyed (and still enjoy) being a parent. I don't think my kids suffer too badly being raised by this amateur. But are there parents unfit for the task? Certainly.
There's just something cold about children being taken from their parents to be raised by professionals, not to mention the whole thing seems far too impractical if not impossible to implement.I'd say its never going to happen because its against human nature.
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I'm trying to remember whether or not it was in B.F. Skinner's "Walden Two" where I read about child rearing being taken out of the hands of parents as children were raised by professionals. While it seemed "logical", I enjoyed (and still enjoy) being a parent. I don't think my kids suffer too badly being raised by this amateur. But are there parents unfit for the task? Certainly.
I remember one of the teaching techniques from that book was to tell kids they are going to get ice cream, then make them wait, then put the ice cream in front of them, then make them wait. It was supposed to help them deal with their impulses or something. There were other more cruel ideas that made me stop reading it. I think the main problem with it is he treated all children, and all people as if they would react the same to all of his ideas. He "society" as a thing, not people making up a society.
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I'm trying to remember whether or not it was in B.F. Skinner's "Walden Two" where I read about child rearing being taken out of the hands of parents as children were raised by professionals. While it seemed "logical", I enjoyed (and still enjoy) being a parent. I don't think my kids suffer too badly being raised by this amateur. But are there parents unfit for the task? Certainly.
There's just something cold about children being taken from their parents to be raised by professionals, not to mention the whole thing seems far too impractical if not impossible to implement.I'd say its never going to happen because its against human nature. Human nature seems to be a rather flexible term to describe anything.
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Human nature seems to be a rather flexible term to describe anything.
Words don't seem to mean much to you at all. You just sort of string them together.
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Human nature seems to be a rather flexible term to describe anything.
Words don't seem to mean much to you at all. You just sort of string them together. Is just that the term "human nature" is used to resist a change whenever mankind undergoes a shift in behavior
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An interesting topic to be sure, considering how there are some people who have parents that aren't really in any position to have them. But even then, the logistics and implementation seem almost impossible. That being said, should parents have to be screened/tested in order to have children. http://forbiddentruth.8k.com/childabuse.html The above is apparently some "model" I saw on another message board about how such a thing would be done. To be honest it sounds very tyrannical.
We can't even get gun owners trained and licensed in this country.
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An interesting topic to be sure, considering how there are some people who have parents that aren't really in any position to have them. But even then, the logistics and implementation seem almost impossible. That being said, should parents have to be screened/tested in order to have children. http://forbiddentruth.8k.com/childabuse.html The above is apparently some "model" I saw on another message board about how such a thing would be done. To be honest it sounds very tyrannical.
We can't even get gun owners trained and licensed in this country. It would require nothing more than a complete overhaul of the entire system, and even then there is no guarantee that it is even possible. Too much gears to monitor and way too many things can go wrong.
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An interesting topic to be sure, considering how there are some people who have parents that aren't really in any position to have them. But even then, the logistics and implementation seem almost impossible. That being said, should parents have to be screened/tested in order to have children. http://forbiddentruth.8k.com/childabuse.html The above is apparently some "model" I saw on another message board about how such a thing would be done. To be honest it sounds very tyrannical.
We can't even get gun owners trained and licensed in this country. It would require nothing more than a complete overhaul of the entire system, and even then there is no guarantee that it is even possible. Too much gears to monitor and way too many things can go wrong. Nah. We could do this quite simply. Anyone who wants a child must adopt a puppy, train it and have it pass the Canine Good Citizen test. Only then can they have children.
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Nah. We could do this quite simply. Anyone who wants a child must adopt a puppy, train it and have it pass the Canine Good Citizen test. Only then can they have children.
Thanks for the laughs. :lol: That was good. Good idea. I wish you could see the mental pictures going through my mind of the kids acting like dogs. I do love my dogs, I got the best dogs in the world. Wish I could say that about my kids. I always think they could do a little better.
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An interesting topic to be sure, considering how there are some people who have parents that aren't really in any position to have them. But even then, the logistics and implementation seem almost impossible. That being said, should parents have to be screened/tested in order to have children. http://forbiddentruth.8k.com/childabuse.html The above is apparently some "model" I saw on another message board about how such a thing would be done. To be honest it sounds very tyrannical.
We can't even get gun owners trained and licensed in this country. It would require nothing more than a complete overhaul of the entire system, and even then there is no guarantee that it is even possible. Too much gears to monitor and way too many things can go wrong. Nah. We could do this quite simply. Anyone who wants a child must adopt a puppy, train it and have it pass the Canine Good Citizen test. Only then can they have children. So they'd tie up the kids with leashes, make them eat and drink out of bowls on the floor, put them in cages, hit them on the nose with rolled up newspapers (or worse) and train them to relieve themselves outdoors in designated areas. Sounds like great parent training.