What do you think Jesus’ position would be about any aspect of the US Mexican border situation?
is this a question for the evangelical trump supporters?
It’s a question for everyone on this list, theist and atheist alike. Knowing what you know about the character of Jesus, as described in the bible, what do you think his position would be? Surely you can speculate.
As useful as asking what would spiderman do
Player wrote:
As useful as asking what would spiderman do
Lois: Sorry, I thought you knew more about Jesus than Spiderman. I was under the impression that you believed that Jesus was an actual person rather than a cartoon character. Sorry of I read you wrong.
<p style=“padding-left: 40px;”>A non sequitur. Thats my analogy. As useful as a cartoon character in asking this question.</p>
Lois, you have asked a very difficult question to answer. There are so many different types of Jesus’s in the minds of people today. And I assume you are mainly talking about the wall. That’s what I will try and cover. The drugs, guns and other items, I am not going to cover right now.
Rephrase the question to what I think you are really asking. What is your position of what you think Jesus’ position might have been? See if I got that right. You are looking to see what box to put people into. Not what box to put Jesus into. Is that correct? I will give you my viewpoint on what box to put Jesus in.
Towns had walls and gates. The gates were locked at night.
Jesus was all about the civilization. Security was number eleven on my list of top common factors. Therefore, it was not that big of a deal. The city walls and gates would make one think otherwise but could not find much backup data to see it as a major item.
Let’s go down the list at the things Jesus would be looking at.
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High protein. Not an issue. -
Happiness. Are Americans happier with or without a wall? -
Rules of Laws. Are the rules being followed? This would be an issue in favor of the wall. -
High knowledge level. Are all these people increasing the knowledge level of America? -
Capitalist system. Are the people self-supporting and helping the capitalist system? -
Control of greed. No problem there. -
Minimal caste. Definitely increasing the caste system. Another reason for the wall. -
Good monetary system. Half the money earned is being sent to other countries. -
Belief in certain deity. Most are religious. -
Medical. A cost to our civilization.
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Security. unvetted
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Entertainment. Not an issue
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Good trade accessibilities. Not an issue.
Of the nine items that Jesus would be considering at least five would be in favor of the wall. The other four are in question. So, yes. Jesus would be in favor of the wall for the good of the civilization.
As a sniveling, manipulative Republican, you manage to rewrite the bible to your own ends. Nothing new.
Luke 6:20-21
Then he looked up at his disciples and said: ‘Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled. Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh.’
Luke 4:16-19
When he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, he went to the synagogue on the sabbath day, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written: ‘The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favour.’
Matthew 25:34-36
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’
Mark 10:21-22
Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, ‘You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.’ When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Mark 12:41-44
He sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the crowd putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which are worth a penny. Then he called his disciples and said to them, ‘Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.’
Luke 14:12-14
He said also to the one who had invited him, ‘When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.’
Luke 16:19-25
There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man’s table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried.
Luke 11:39-42
Then the Lord said to him, ‘Now you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. You fools! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also? So give for alms those things that are within; and see, everything will be clean for you. But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and herbs of all kinds, and neglect justice and the love of God.’
Luke 12:16-21
Then he told them a parable: ‘The land of a rich man produced abundantly. And he thought to himself, ‘What should I do, for I have no place to store my crops?’ Then he said, ‘I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, ‘Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.’ But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life is being demanded of you. And the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So it is with those who store up treasures for themselves but are not rich toward God.’
Outside the realm of metaphysics and belief, Jesus can be considered one of the world’s most notable humanitarians. His teachings can be universally applied to many areas of life, including alleviating the suffering of millions in poverty around the world.
Nice chapter and verse there Lois. I usually don’t give Mike that much of time, but that’s how I would have answered your question. Since we are talking about Jesus, “you nailed it” is doubly fitting.
Thanks, Lausten. I love shoving Jesus in the faces of “Christian” hypocrites. And there are so many.
Player: A non sequitur. Thats my analogy. As useful as a cartoon character in asking this question.
Lois: Nice dodge. It doesn’t work. You obviously can’t answer the question and justify your philosophy. . Why not just admit it… or would that be too honest for a fake Christian?
Lois
Both man made. Yes?
Yes, both Spiderman and the bible were man-made. Did you need to ask?
so why are you asking what would a fictional character do? Ridiculous
Yes, it was just an intellectual exercise. I should have noted that you don’t qualify. Sorry for including you.
LoisL - big of you calling it an “intellectual exercise” when its pointless
It’s pointless only to the intellectually compromised.
Jesus loves the little children. He would not like a “zero tolerance border policy” that had young children of asylum seekers taken from their families, sent to secretive places across the US, and lost track of. Jesus would likely whip those who did such things, just as he whipped money-changers for defiling his house.
BTW, Jesus is a mythical figure, but is still an important figure in a story that has shaped much of the cultural development of modern societies. Spiderman, not as much so.
not a beacon on morality