Nazi Glorification

Anything goes to keep the cold war alive

https://www.rt.com/news/509899-us-opposes-nazi-vote/

I don’t click on rt.com

See what i mean

Still, the US maintains that its opposition to the Russian resolution has nothing to do with its support for Ukrainian neo-Nazi groups. Russian officials introduce the same resolution every year, and the US has opposed it every time, arguing that forbidding the “glorification of Nazism” clashes with its First Amendment protection of free speech.
Probably isn't stemming from cold war grudges. It's more about a difference in values.

 

Has to satisfy my curiosity

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/u-s-opposes-nazi-speech-but-will-vote-no-at-un-to-banning-it

I don’t click on rt.com either. It’s all Russian propaganda. I’m more likely to click on the link Lausten gave, except it has two www dots in it.

Nazi Glorification ... It’s more about a difference in values.
Yeah, different values, totalitarianism, hatred, destroying rather than a modicum of democracy, respect, nurturing.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/introduction-to-the-holocaust
 

The US is so opposed to glorifying nazism they are going to vote no to ban it. Great values Cc.

I am 100% on the side of free speech. Russia has plenty of historical justification to ban nazi symbols etc but I’m not Russian.

Also, I don’t think they’re doing it because they’re against “hate”. Russians are some of the most racist people on earth.

I read the resolution, and i agree that at first sight, nothing is worth of voting against. May be i read too fast.

Naw, it is evident that the countries which abstained don’t support nazism and did that for political reasons. the european parliament has voted a similar text a few years ago.

What interests me is the US position against it. I understand the motive according to which freedom of speech in US forbids them to vote for the text, but i am wondering why they vote against it. they could have abstained.

Now 2 points:

  1. As said earlier, some of voting countries are strong hypocrites
  2. Once more, US conception of freedom of speech is very different in US than in Europe, but that's another topic.
 

Wow people on here advocating for free speech when it comes to genocide!!!

Anton, as you working the Russian government? Because your taking their position. It’s a position designed to confuse and make an issue where there isn’t one. The Russian government is the troll of the world. I think we are pretty much done warning you.

I don’t support genocide. I spent 4 years opposing the dotard, who committed crimes against humanity, which included several counts of genocide. I do not support Russia either and do not plan to because they aren’t that great of a country when it comes to how it treats people.

This is your confusion ?

“I am 100% on the side of free speech. Russia has plenty of historical justification to ban nazi symbols etc but I’m not Russian.”

@anton "The US is so opposed to glorifying nazism they are going to vote no to ban it. Great values Cc."
What's that even mean?

 

@anton : “Wow people on here advocating for free speech when it comes to genocide!!!”

In Europe, laws prohibe many speechs authorized in USA. Not only one may not promote genocide, but to profess racists opinion, call to murder, insult one person using his race or his gender, or his sexual orientation, or just diffaming or even insulting her publicly is forbidden by law.

Our freedom is much more restrictive than in US.

But to defend free speech is not advocating it. If one thing is sure is that yo_u cannot have a rule and make exceptions. If in the US, free speech has no limits, it is difficult to set one about one topic.

Imagine a limit is set and only one, against your ideas, which ever they are !

 

 

 

 

 

 

And Germany abstained!! Can you believe it! The Nazis fought Russia…so in today’s anti Russia hysteria they are good guys who made a few bad judgment calls.

What interests me is the US position against it. I understand the motive according to which freedom of speech in US forbids them to vote for the text, but i am wondering why they vote against it. they could have abstained.
I suspect that voting against makes for a stronger message than abstaining.

Speaking of Nazi Glorification

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy_TM0AZ2xQ

 

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