Like, what's is all for man?

You completely missed the point of the question. You know what know because of accumulated knowledge. Why you are attacking the things I study, i have no idea. It doesn’t support your comment about whatever it is that you think doesn’t make a difference.

What you miss is that it’s not getting missed. I’ve given you so many examples and you dismiss almost every one of them. There is some payoff for you if this is a problem.

I challenge you to come up with an alternative for where human consciousness comes from that lines up with the evidence.

WTF?

Oh, that’s nice… :+1:

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That’s were our bad habits were formalized.

I think therefore I am.

baloney

I am therefore I think.

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Our body is the product of millions, billions of years worth of Earth’s evolution.

Our mind is only the product of all the days and experiences of your particular life, filtered through your particular body.

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Someday I’ll have to try reading some Voltaire, I’ll admit only know the simple outlines, that always seem to be misleading. At least I’ve actually read some Descartes and can appreciate and respect the man within his time.

It’s interesting to think some experts on Descartes speculate that he would have been shocked at what he’s remembered for. Seems the opinion is that he was more mathematician than philosopher. I’ve read that he even dismissed some of his own pronouncements as he grew older.

Carrier Philosophy is.

"Who am 1?*

"What should I do with my life? How can I be happy?’

"Do I have the right friends? Are these bad friends?*

"Am I a bad person? Should I be living my life differently?*

'What’s worth making sacrifices for? How much sacrifice?*

“Am I in love? What is love?”

'Is there a god / afterlife / cosmic plan?"

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I tried explaining.

Attacking - or utterly exasperated with.
There is a difference.

Besides, what do you mean by “the things I study”

Ouch, sorry.

I hate to make it a personal attack.

But I am totally flummoxed by how much attention ancient literature gets, I’m a tradesmen, I never had the endless leisure, that makes endless reading fascinating, I had to get to the heart of it.

I don’t mean to make you angry or sad, but I’m livid at what we as a whole have done to ourselves and this planet and its other inhabitants,
and the roots of the blindsided, that lead to today’s conditions and situations is smack in the middle of the utter self-absorption those libraries represent.

I’m totally flummoxed how I bring up so many living people and you keep wringing your hands about ancients

Well, did you hear me complaining about Carrier?
I don’t think so.

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Even have the Audible Audio and have listened to much of it, before I got diverted away. I’ll get back to it sometime.

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No, i heard you complaining about ancients. For no reason. Nothing to do with our conversation

As this thread is going everywhere and nowhere, i will risk two ideas

  1. Many science derive from ancient philosophy, as ancient philosophers thinking comprised the whole of human knowledge of this time

  2. We are dwarfs upon the shoulders of giants, bu that allows us to see farther.

And the giants could err, for instance most of ancient medicine was a disaster.