Let women lead by Keb Mo

Sociopaths arent worried. As long as the economy of death kills others

As long as we aren’t dropping the bombs, there isn’t much we can do.

We don’t start the wars. You do. We supply defensive weapons.

Joke of century and last century

No joke. The US doesn’t start wars. We provide foreign aid to stimulate industry,

$1,389,022,901

ForeignAssistance.gov is the U.S. government’s flagship website …

Peace through bombs coming to your nearest neighbourhood . Dont leave the light on

There you go, threats of violence. Better watch out, we don’t like to be threatened.

Mexico and Canada have nothing to fear from us. They don’t threaten us.

I will puke to that …

There you go… image

Puke all you want. Just don’t do it on my property. I’ll make you clean it up.

Emphasis on “my property” - My oil under your land :face_vomiting:

Your oil? Are you native American? My wife is. She has all the ancestral rights to her land.

And for you information, I am against oil. It causes GW.

I prefer Solar and Wind energy. They are free and can be shared by all.

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X rated … fcked up reality

You really do buy the propaganda don’t you? We’ve been blatantly imperialistic for most of our history. We’ve got a little better at making it appear it’s someone else’s war lately.

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I don’t think egghead is even from the States.

I agree. Moreover he is not friendly to the US.

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Blatantly Imperialistic in what way? Militarily to economically?
Are the American territories complaining about their association with the US?
The were already controlled by Spain and were gifts to the US. Could they exist on their own in this world?

Will Puerto Rico become a new US state in 2025?

This is Imperialism?

What propaganda by whom? About what?

USA interventions in foreign countries

The most blatant recent exemple is the second Iraqi war. USA, followed by UK, staged a suite of lies and attacked Iraq, violating very international legal rules.

This war was motivated by greed, resentment and stupidity. The result was a disaster.

We still suffer from the results. The main victims are the Iraqi people.

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Picking non imperialistic actions is not hard. Meaningless anecdotes.

I gave you the link. It answers your question. Pick any war you want. To really understand something, try defending the viewpoint you disagree with. Research it as if you are trying to make my case. You don’t have to post it here if you don’t want.

'I agree that was a mistake, and we have made mistakes before.
This was a response to the attack on 9/11.

It is the same as saying that we committed murder when we killed Bin Laden.
And that wasn’t a mistake and was entirely justified.

But that was not a war of Imperialism. We did not want Iraq. When it was all over, and Iraq asked us to leave, we left.

In July 2021, President Joe Biden announced that he would end the U.S. combat mission in Iraq by the end of 2021, with remaining U.S. troops serving in an advisory and assistance role.[7] The U.S. combat mission formally concluded on 9 December 2021, with 2,500 U.S. troops remaining in the country.[1] As of March 15, 2023, the number of American forces in Iraq was still approximately 2,500 soldiers, deployed mainly in Baghdad and the north of the country.[8]

Problem is Saddam and Iraq hated bin Laden more than we did. THERE WAS NO CONNECTION. Why didn’t we focus on getting the Osama bin Laden gang and financial supporters?

Cheney wanted a war of convenience and profit, and boy did he get it.

Baby Bush was p’ed because Saddam “tried to kill daddy” so as any true blue Texian, blast the heck out of them to teach them what family matter is about.

We had the world on our side. Why didn’t we focus on the perps?

Problem was all roads of evidence seems to lead to Saudi Arabia, same place that helps bankroll various politicians & oil men, and they are labeled “our partners” by some.
(This may turn out interesting, … eventually)

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You don’t mention, and I’m pretty sure you’ve not responded to any time someone points this out; the first Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction to get us into that war, then his son felt some obligation to follow up, and literally joked about not being able to find the weapons. Cheney handled the torturing. It was Obama who finally switched to finding Bin Laden as a police action, with some restraints on the “police officers”, but that’s pretty hard to manage from the other side of the world, and of course he knows that.

I watched that history, then read Michael Moore’s review of the movie “Zero Dark Thirty”, then watched the movie, a dramatization of the facts. My wife had to stop watching before the important turn of events. The movie begins with brutal depictions of the lies and the international laws we broke in how we treated prisoners.

Then, there is a scene where the CIA people are in a meeting room, the talk is about how they aren’t getting the backup of the government to torture anymore, they are on their own to find the perpetrators. It’s a pretty boring scene, and I would have missed the significance if I hadn’t read the review. Throughout the movie, mostly set in the Mideast, news plays in the background, so you see when Obama is elected, but the movie doesn’t show you a specific change in the orders, you have to watch for it.

So, that’s what happened. The Bush family, a powerful, and corrupt political machine, almost turned us into a country that uses torture as a normal part of politics. If we had continued, the rest of the world would have done even more than they were, and some still do. Our checks and balances are hanging by a thread right now. The world watches as we fight it out, picking a leader that is openly racist, then one that is sort of trying to recognize he’s an old white man who doesn’t get it.

Michael Moore launches defence of Zero Dark Thirty | Michael Moore | The Guardian

Another comment where you skip over years of history of how we stayed too long, creating terrorists by our actions. The citizens there started out expressing their new found freedoms and we helped suppress them. They asked for schools, we gave them weapons and training.

Here’s a taste of that
Iraq’s Yazidis: who they are and why the US is bombing ISIS to save them | Vox