It's Official: Trump will be USA's Russian Obligate President.

No you're a blathering idiot who's ignored every meaningful point on this issue in exactly the same way you do on climate change. I don't give a flying f... what you think. I just post in reply to yours in a probably pointless attempt to create a little bit more sanity in this world. You still haven't answered my question about what dynamic you find so appealing in either Putin or Trump. Is it the pedophilia, the epic larceny, on the part of Putin the murdering and war crimes. I've got zero respect for either men or anyone who tries to justify their crimes. There is no and never will be any justification.
Again you don’t answer the questions in play. You make the issues personal. You are pretty much on the bulls-eye of what’s in today’s news about how the democrats cannot accept a lost. How they are stirring up misdirection and have to blame everyone else but themselves for their failure. You want people to accept and embrace your socialist views. And lie all you want about the Climate Change, I am right in line with the IPCC direction of action. Where you are doing more damage than good for the Climate Change problem by your whining and trying to make it political instead of scientific. Because they are personal for everyone in the world who's lives are being put on the line by having such dangerous men in power. In exactly the same way that climate change is an existential threat to us all, you don't think the cynical and sociopathic games you constantly play with on that issue aren't a giant F.U. to us all. I'm just returning the sentiment, you want to play these games about issues that affect us all deeply like it doesn't matter at all then don't complain when we point out how meaningless it is to "discuss" anything with you. When you consistently act like an absolute moron then expect to be treated like one. That applies to denying centuries of science backing up the incredible threat of human created climate change or that two of the worst examples of humanity are likely going to be leading two of the most powerful nations. Throwing out some imbecilic red herrings about some next to meaningless emails on the scale of like it balances out the threat we all face by having a Putin/Trump association is right up there with claiming we're all going to be fine because the voices in your head tell you that climate change isn't real. We don't care what the voices in your head are telling you, we wish you'd keep them to yourself and let us discuss the incredibly important facts that deeply effect our lives. So if you keep engaging in the discussion equivalent of massive F.U.s by posting meaningless crap like it has any significance then don't complain when you get a massive F.U. right back. Everything you do here is a personal insult when you shit on other people's fact based reality moron...
No you're a blathering idiot who's ignored every meaningful point on this issue in exactly the same way you do on climate change. I don't give a flying f... what you think.
Everything you do here is a personal insult when you shit on other people's fact based reality moron...
DougC please avoid personal insults, as they are against the rules, and can lead to banning. Good arguments can always be made without insults, and insults do not add anything to make an argument better. Thanks.

If this is just a platform for the kind of misinformation that this poster constantly generates then banning is the least of my worries. If the kind of mentality constantly being asserted by the poster involved here prevails then very little will be left to discuss, at some point this stops being academic and becomes existential, I think we’re crossing that line now.
I’d rather be inappropriate and clear than silent and eventually destroyed, the stakes really are at that point now in my opinion. On climate change which Mike Yohe is a consistent and constant denier in opposition to ALL the best evidence and on this issue ignoring all the facts on how dangerous this truly is for us all.
Where are the standards of critical thinking being applied here if a complete contrarian is allowed to run riot…

No you're a blathering idiot who's ignored every meaningful point on this issue in exactly the same way you do on climate change. I don't give a flying f... what you think.
Everything you do here is a personal insult when you shit on other people's fact based reality moron...
DougC please avoid personal insults, as they are against the rules, and can lead to banning. Good arguments can always be made without insults, and insults do not add anything to make an argument better. Thanks. Thank you, Doug Smith, for your comments. I was thinking of bringing the personal attacks/insults here to the attention of the moderators of this forum. I am glad that some of them got your attention. Most of the participants here are nether experts nor totally objective on the subjects they discuss. However, their points should be countered without denigrating/insulting them personally. I totally agree with you, "Good arguments can always be made without insults, and insults do not add anything to make an argument better."
You are pretty much on the bulls-eye of what’s in today’s news about how the democrats cannot accept a lost. How they are stirring up misdirection and have to blame everyone else but themselves for their failure.
Excellent points Mike. Lot of people are displaying the same signs that Christian Evangelical Fundamentalists display. Keep up the good work Mr. Yohe. :-)
He isn't even GWB. I guarantee,it will take decades for the US to recover from the damage the Trump Administration will do, and the recovery will never be complete. The US will be hobbled forever.
How are you at super lotto numbers. Would you mind sharing the future numbers? :-) Sure, put your life savings on 16 53 93 97 26

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He isn't even GWB. I guarantee,it will take decades for the US to recover from the damage the Trump Administration will do, and the recovery will never be complete. The US will be hobbled forever.
How are you at super lotto numbers. Would you mind sharing the future numbers? :-) Sure, put your life savings on 16 53 93 97 26 If the numbers win, you get half. :-)

Here is an interesting take on the CI leak.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/12/historical-structural-reasons-for-skepticism-of-cia-claims-remaining-agnostic-on-claims-of-russian-hackers/
I’m with the author remaining agnostic on this issue until we see the evidence. The CIA has a long history of interfering in foreign elections, and is suspicious to Trump because of his ties to Russia. We know the FBI undermined Hillary Clinton’s campaign. One of my friends published a piece on Medium lat week giving his take.

Both are well worth reading.

He isn't even GWB. I guarantee,it will take decades for the US to recover from the damage the Trump Administration will do, and the recovery will never be complete. The US will be hobbled forever.
How are you at super lotto numbers. Would you mind sharing the future numbers? :-) Sure, put your life savings on 16 53 93 97 26 If the numbers win, you get half. :-) Ok, I can live with that. Lois

How about a follow up on this thread. Turns out Russia really and truly was playing the long game and playing trump/MAGA .man

This is who MAGA people are cheering for . . .

GOP Witness DEEP CRIMINAL HISTORY Gets EXPOSED

March 16, 2024
In a real life Burn Notice, Alexander Smirnov, the indicted lying FBI confidential informant embraced by the MAGA Oversight Committee, who falsely claimed that President Joe Biden took bribes, is in hot water again, this time being accused of lying in another case as well, as a new photo showing his identity for the first is posted. Michael Popok reports on other cases in which Smirnov lied and questions how Hunter Biden’s special counsel could have relied on him at all.

Growing up in those glowing late 50/60’s, who knew American politics and regular old societal common sense could so easy be derailed. Who were our teachers? What were they teaching us? Or should we blame it all on the too much crowding (echo’s of the rat experiments) perhaps it’s all that simple. Or course, these are just vortexes upon the sea of life, and with time will dissipate.

Could we have prepared a little better, if greed hadn’t become job one, the race to bigger and better, what a snowballing treadmill that turned out to be.

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