Israel/Gaza question

Perhaps after reading the Hamas Charter you could come back here and with some authority tell us again "that the biggest lie about HAMAS is that it wants to destroy Israel." :bug:
Are we sure Hamas even has an active charter? Sir Jeremy Greenstock however argued that Hamas has not adopted its charter as part of its political program since it won the Palestinian legislative election, 2006. Instead it has moved to a more secular stance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant
How is what Israel is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza any different than what the Nazis did to the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto? Which one is an immoral act? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto Lois
There is no difference except in scale. Both are Zionist and Nazis are political parties that are/were backed by religious groups. Both are racially motivate. The Zionist want the biblical lands that god promised them. And that takes up four times more land than they have control of already. That is why Israel has and will never define its boarders or stop itā€™s wars. Even though the UN and everyone has been asking Israel to define itā€™s boarders for decades. The biggest lie about Hamas is that it wants to destroy Israel. That lie is over twenty years old. It has now been Hamasā€™ policy for some time that Hamas has no problem with Israel, or the existent of the state of Israel as defined by the UN. Its problem is with the Zionist and the Zionist goal to take over lands claimed by the bible and it has the bible's OK to slaughter people and take their land. The Europeans and most of the rest of the world seen to understand this, the Americans do not. Until a year ago the Jewish nation was located in America. There are just now as many Jews in Israel as America. As they say, "the proof is in the pudding". Meaning, all one as to ask themselves, "is the Zionist acting and doing things like the Nazis did?" When was the last time you read the Hamas Charter? :-O I have not read the Hamas Charter. I got this information from an interview with the Hamas leader on TV. And heard it again in an interview with the West Bank leader, again on TV. It was explained that the Palestinian people have no trouble or problem with the Israeli people or Israel, their problem is with the Zionist Party. Maybe we should read the Zionist Charter. If we cannot find their charter, we can follow the partiesā€™ actions over the last several decades and have a good idea of their goals. Just like Germany, no one seem to have problems with the German people, but they had a lot of problems with the Nazi Party. After the war, 5 million people left Germany and 5 million people moved into Germany. If the problem was with the German people, how could 5 million people move to live with them? And who would have accepted the 5 million who moved out of Germany? Perhaps after reading the Hamas Charter you could come back here and with some authority tell us again "that the biggest lie about HAMAS is that it wants to destroy Israel." :bug: If your country had a large part of it requisitioned by a foreign power who then gave it to a religious group (lets say Muslims) and Muslims from all over the world were invited and helped to settle there and lots of money poured in to help them create a military and to expand and grow and they closed off access to you and set up blockades, stopping your country from trading and receiving goods, and bombing your homes, schools and hospitals and trapping killing your countrymen, you and your countrymen might want to destroy that country, too. Or would your country just roll over and play dead? Lois

A record 55 standing ovations for the President of the United States of Israel
The war criminal of our time in congress with standing ovations. What a sick sick sick pack of FREAKS . HE WAS SCREAMING MORE GENOCIDE AND THE POLITICIANS WERE SAYING YES YES YES.

People who call out hypocrisy are often the worst hypocrites.

The vast majority of Democrats held back any applause in response and notably, the top three House Democrats, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., House Minority Whip Katherine Clark, D-Mass. and House Democratic Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., stayed seated.

How many posts have you made about someoneā€™s reference being incomplete, or their news source was wrong?

Netanyahu calls out Democratic critics and protesters in speech to Congress, lays out Hamas threats (msn.com)

Come on. Tell the truth for a change

The government? The government did it. You are actually 67 arenā€™t you? Whose picture is your profile?

Sheā€™s trying to help end the war.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/25/netanyahu-biden-harris-hostages/

Oh come on. Why cant you use your critical thinking skills instead of time and again falling for smoke and mirrors .

Does below make any inroads into your thinking here?

Meet the new boss same as the old boss. Look at the disgusting press release she sent out about the protestors

Didnā€™t take her long to play the Hamas card.

And why canā€™t you see a decent candidate instead of supporting that orange menace?

Did you read her statement ??

Rather than chasing stateless like a hound dog treeing a squirrel, hereā€™s a nuanced discussion about the future of US/Israel relations. Kamala does not simply react to the ā€œwhatā€ anyone is doing, protestors or Prime Ministers, she gets to the ā€œhowā€. When you do that, you can say things like, ā€œIsrael has the right to defend itselfā€, and then you can talk about killing babies.

The News Roundup - International | 1A (the1a.org)

This should go to the 11AM slot for 7/26

sheā€™ll have lost a lot of votes in the younger population with this challenge to the protestors and those concerned with Israelā€™s muderous violence inflicted on Gaza, sheā€™s just lost a lot of the younger generationā€™s votes that she and her backers have been assiduously promoting with all the manufactured and expensively disseminated ā€œmemesā€ of coconut trees and BRAT to make her seem a bit hip and with-it. Her politics is the same, - spin, show, subterfuge.

The youth vote is just as diverse as any other bloc. You make a lot of assumptions.

You really believe that? I donā€™t, but weā€™ll see whoā€™s right come November. I can tell you though, with her stance on Womenā€™s Health Care, she hasnā€™t lost any of them becauseā€¦ ā€œWeā€™re not going back.ā€

Oh yes. Genocide crosses the line for many. Obviously not for others

Obviously some countries want genocide, so, itā€™s a thing. Otherwise we wouldnā€™t be talking about it. The question is then what do we do about it? Do we agree to wipe out the ones doing the genocide? Thatā€™s genocide, so, not a solution. We have rules about respecting borders and governments, even really bad ones. We need many resources from all over to make stuff we use everyday. You ignore all of these complexities.

What a word salad to munch on.

If there were still any doubt that capitalism has descended into the sewer of barbarism, this is the definitive proof. The entire US congress standing to honour a fascist and war criminal in the midst of committing a genocide against millions of defenceless civilians in an occupied enclave with the most modern weaponry, supplied by the very congressmen and women who are honouring him.

The international working class will not forget this shameful and self serving display.

Sheā€™s not the one doing the genocide. She is trying to get Yahoo to declare a cease fire. Again, you have your wires crossed.

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Itā€™s called history.

Not. My evidence is above.

So, itā€™s communism for you? Tell us how you make work.

I am looking at the history . Way back in 2014 actually

loisl

Aug 2014

How is what Israel is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza any different than what the Nazis did to the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto? Which one is an immoral act?