How me being an atheist just doesn't work out for me

Religion and Secularism
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I am the type of person who strictly wishes to be free in life and to live by his own values and to not have my life dictated. This is not just limited to people who wish to force their own values and beliefs upon me, but this also even applies to suffering and mortality. In other words, I don’t even wish to have my own mortality and suffering dictate the life I want to live. Now some people would say that America is the land of the free, but this would be false. We are not truly free. We have all sorts of major suffering in this life. We might very well have freedom in other ways, but we are not truly completely free in this life. Therefore, to truly deem America as the land of the free would be to eliminate all suffering on this planet and for us to live eternal lives of pleasure through perhaps science in the future. Freedom doesn’t necessarily refer to doing whatever we want in life. It also refers to being free of things that many people perceive as problems. In this case, suffering is a major problem for many people. Therefore, America is only free in the sense of being free to do the things you want in life. But it is not truly completely the land of the free.
Now I am an atheist and there are the two things that I detest the most in this life. Those two things would be suffering and mortality. I am a hedonist (which is a value and belief that holds that pleasure is the only intrinsic good in life which is a firm and strict belief I hold and no one has the right to try and change it just as I would have no right to try and change your values and beliefs. As long as I am not harming and demeaning innocent people and still have just as much good value towards them, then I have every right to have these values and beliefs). For me, I don’t think you would necessarily call my pleasure a craving (like some addiction a person might have). Rather, my pleasure to me is my very life force (essence) as a human being that I live off of and is the only thing that makes me and my life good. It is an intrinsic part of me and a life that would truly be defined as good. How some people thrive and find good meaning in their lives is off of their intelligence, actions, personality, etc. However, I thrive and live off my pleasure.
Therefore, me being an atheist holds no benefit for me whatsoever. The only benefit is that I am free from the morals of a religious belief. However, I could of easily had a religious belief that didn’t have any morals. As long as it was a religious belief that says that there will be an afterlife of eternal pleasure as a reward for my life of suffering and mortality here on Earth, then this would give me a sense of hope, empowerment, and superiority over this life of suffering, hardship, and mortality in which you suffer and just forever remain dead in the end. This sense of empowerment and superiority is the only thing that matters to me even despite the fact that it would be delusional since there is no afterlife. This sense of empowerment and superiority would encourage me to do more great things in this life and such knowing that I would get the ultimate reward of an afterlife in the end.
Now I realize that some people who do have religious beliefs end up harming others and such and doing other dumbfounded and bad deeds. However, this is not the case for me because when I had my religious belief in the past before I lost it and became an atheist, I was perfectly fine with it, didn’t harm or demean others with it, and didn’t do any other dumbfounded or bad deeds. Now there may be scientific studies that indicate that many people who are religious end up doing more bad things and also that they become more depressed than atheists. However, such scientific studies do not apply to everyone. They are not scientific studies that have been conducted on every single person on this planet. Therefore, there are also some people who are much better off in life with a religious belief than if they were being an atheist. I am obviously one of these people. Not only that, some people are much more happy in life having a religious belief than some atheists are with their atheism.
You might now give me a quote such as:
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.”

  • George Bernard Shaw
    However, it would just be your own personal values here that say that pleasure isn’t all that important in life and that there are more important things in life such as realizing the truth, intelligence, etc. For me, my level of pleasure is the one and only thing that defines me and my life as being good and it is only my suffering that defines me and my life as being inferior and worthless. Even my own mortality defines me and my life as being inferior since I would be utterly inferior compared to the ideal version of myself living in an eternal life of pleasure of no suffering. If you respect my personal values and beliefs here, then I will respect yours. This is my attitude in life. Therefore, you should respect my hedonistic values and not have scorn towards them. Only then will I respect your values and beliefs in return and won’t show scorn towards them.
    Now some people might say to me something such as that there is much good in me being an atheist anyway. They might say to me that it would be because I can live, value, and appreciate this one and only life I will have more than if I were religious. However, this does not hold true for me. I am the opposite in that only the idea of me obtaining the ultimate reward of an eternal life of bliss would give this inferior life of suffering and mortality immense meaning. I do not find greater good meaning in this life of suffering and mortality in of itself (even if it is me simply living to appreciate the good things I have in this life anyway even though those said things won’t last forever).
    Furthermore, I have severe chronic anhedonia (absence of pleasure) that resulted from a stressful life event and there are never any moments of brief pleasure whatsoever. It has been going on for 7 months now. Therefore, this is what makes me and my life utterly inferior, worthless, and of no personal good value now since it was only my pleasure that makes me and my life good and worth living. I still value other good people just as much as I value myself. But I have just as much good value as any other good person and that gives me the right to have focus towards myself and to want a personal life of pleasure of my own to live since we all have personal good lives we must attend to and have in our lives. Not just in terms of living for others, but also for living for ourselves.
    Now there are two types of people here. There are those who have a sense of appreciation, appreciate the little good things in life, accept problems in life, and accept suffering and mortality in life. Then there are those types of people who want it all, who want to live eternal lives of pleasure and no suffering, who want to live only the way they want to and have complete dominance and control in their lives, etc. You might be thinking that these other types of people here are spoiled and selfish. However, it is only those types of people who want every little thing handed to them in life who are spoiled and selfish. But as for those types of people who want the full amount of something in their lives that defines their very humanity, human existence, and lives as being good, then these types of people are not spoiled and selfish and have every right to desire the full amount of that said good thing in their lives.
    Therefore, since my pleasure is the only good thing about me and my personal life, then I have every right to not appreciate this life of suffering and mortality and to want to have a far better life of eternal pleasure. Especially since me and my life are nothing good at all since I have no pleasure now. I would only be spoiled and selfish if I demeaned, harmed, and/or refused to help other innocent people. I am someone who wants to be awesome and wants complete dominance and control in this life through pure pleasure alone even though such a thing is not possible.
    You might say something to me such as that “This life doesn’t owe you anything and you should just live to accept that and stop complaining.” But that would be disrespecting and having scorn towards my own personal values and beliefs as I said before. Furthermore, me having this attitude (even if it only serves to be further detrimental to me and my life), this attitude is the only thing for me that makes me the better person. I only live by my own values and not the values of others. This is what makes me the better person since I am choosing not to live by the loathsome non-hedonistic and atheistic values (morals) of others and am instead choosing to live by my own defined greatness and values. Although I do still live by the other values of other good people who wish for me to help them out in life, value them, etc. But all those other values I have are my own defined greatness. Therefore, me deeming this life of suffering and mortality as inferior and looking down upon it as though I am some metaphorically spoken god is what makes me the better person. I do not hate the beautiful and innocent things in this life such as nature or innocent living creatures and people. Rather, I detest the suffering, lack of pleasure, and mortality of this life.
    I will never accept any problem in my life that hinders the one and only greatest life I want to live (which would be a life of full normal pleasure I once had before). This even goes for an afterlife of eternal pleasure. Some might say to me that our problems do not dictate our lives and our attitudes and such and that we instead change our own attitudes in how we respond to our problems. But in a way, our problems do dictate our lives and attitudes. If, for example, your attitude in life was to live and explore in this world by walking around and taking nature trips and this is what made your life good and worth living, but all of a sudden, you developed cancer and was bound to a hospital bed, then you obviously would no longer be able to live that life you wanted to live. Therefore, you can no longer have this attitude of wanting to go out into nature since you can no longer do such a thing. Instead, you would have to have changed your attitude to something new to cope and live with your new life of being bound in a hospital bed with cancer. Therefore, your problems have made this change of attitude inevitable.
    So, in a way, your problems have dictated what attitude you should have. However, it might be beneficial for this person since this person would be able to find other good things in his/her life now besides going out in nature. But sadly, it might not be a greater life for this suffering person and this change of attitude might of been something he/she never wanted. In other words, his/her previous attitude and life of going out in nature was the far greater life and attitude. Therefore, this would mean that his/her problems (cancer) really has dictated his/her attitude and life and really has made his/her life inferior and more worthless. I realize though that, over time, people tend to develop a sense of greater value and acceptance towards any new life of suffering they might go through.
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However, since that other life of going out in nature was the truly greater life to this person, then the greater amount of good value that this suffering person has developed towards his/her new life of cancer might never amount to the amount of good value, sense of worth, etc. that he/she would of developed through living a life of no cancer. Not to mention, he/she would have much greater well-being in life and would be able to find much more good value in many other things in life not having this cancer since he/she would be able to go out and explore this world more. Not only would he/she be able to find more good value in more things in life, but this sense of good value would be greater since it is basically our well-being that defines how great we perceive something to be good in our lives.
For example, if we are very depressed and/or have much misery in our lives, then it is far less likely that we will be inspired, motivated, and perceive things in our lives to be of immense good value much less for us to perceive our lives as being something greater than if we lived lives of little suffering and misery. You hear this all the time from people who are depressed and/or have other serious problems in their lives and it has nothing to do with them just simply choosing to have bad attitudes. Suffering and misery do significantly impact our perceptions and thinking in life in a negative way since that is just how the mind works (although there are some positive perceptions and thinking that can be achieved through our suffering). However, the negative perceptions and thinking outweigh the positive ones. For example, ask someone who has depression, anhedonia, and/or any other type of major suffering in his/her life if that his/her life is something greater now with this suffering. Although there might very well be some people who would say that their lives are greater with this suffering and that they would rather have it in their lives, there are far more many people who would think otherwise and that their lives would be far better off without it. Even over time, many people who have even accepted their suffering over time would agree that their lives would still be far better off without this suffering.
Therefore, everything I just said above also holds true with me. My pleasure is the only good thing about me and my personal life. Therefore, there is nothing good about changing my attitude to live for other things in my life since none of those things are anything good without my pleasure. Therefore, a change of attitude is not something I would ever want here sine that would make me inferior for accepting and choosing to adhere to an inferior worthless life that is nothing good at all. My problems of depression and ahedonia would of, therefore, dictated me, my life, and have dictated the attitude I have in life and would have dictated a change in attitude I never wanted to have.
Now some people might find less value in living in an eternal life of pleasure and that living such a life would be suffering to them and that they would rather live this life of suffering instead. But if you find value in suffering and a life of eternal bliss would be suffering to you, then you should be able to find value in a life of eternal bliss. Furthermore, if it were a life of eternal bliss of no suffering, then you wouldn’t even have any suffering in your life anymore. Therefore, you would be perfectly fine living this eternal blissful life. If having less value, going bored, going insane, etc. is what you personally define as suffering, then there would be none of these things if you were to live this eternal blissful life of no suffering. Also, I would never go bored, have less value, or go insane from living a blissful life of no suffering since it will and forever will be the one and only greatest life I will ever value the most. I detest this life of suffering and this hate I have towards this life of suffering and my immense value towards an eternal blissful life is what would enable me to live in this eternal blissful life and to have full good value towards that life and to never go bored, have less value, or go insane from that.
Now an important question I have here for people would be that why is it that there are many people who find value in suffering? If it’s because it makes you more empathetic, more creative, more intelligent, etc., then I can understand this in terms of your own personal values and beliefs here. But the suffering in of itself does not make us more empathetic and such towards others. We have to change our attitudes on our part to become more empathetic and such. This is evidenced by people who go through much suffering in their lives, but end up becoming less empathetic than what they were before who take their suffering out on other people (even towards those types of people who suffer the same issues as this other person). Therefore, where I am getting at with this is that, since it is our change of attitude that determines whether we are more empathetic, then you can choose to be just as more empathetic (and even greater) through living a blissful life of very little to no suffering.
Although suffering might make it more likely for you to change your attitude in becoming more empathetic, we can still choose to become even more empathetic under the right circumstances through living a blissful life instead. As far as becoming more intelligent and creative goes, changing your attitude in of itself won’t necessarily make you more intelligent and creative nor does any type of suffering in of itself make you more intelligent and creative. We have to actually study up on things and hone our intellectual and creative capabilities through other means in life. So this is also another reason why suffering is unnecessary and you can become more empathetic, more intelligent, more creative, etc. through other means in life besides suffering. Even if I could somehow grow more as a person through my suffering and/or atheism, I am just fine the way I am and it is only my pleasure that makes me and my life anything good. Therefore, growing as a person does not matter to me as long as I am not harming and demeaning other innocent people in any way. Therefore, being a happy deluded person is the only thing that would matter to me as long as I am still innocent and not harming and demeaning other innocent people.
Some people might also reject the idea of eliminating all suffering on this planet through science in the distant future (if that is even a possibility). These people might think that suffering is needed in their lives. But I ask you. Do cancer patients need cancer? Do they need to be denied and restricted from the lives they truly wanted to live? Do starving children need to suffer, wither away both physically and emotionally, and to have little good value in their lives just to forever die in the end with no afterlife of eternal joy as a reward for all their suffering? Therefore, as you can clearly see, an afterlife of eternal pleasure of no suffering is far better than this life of suffering and mortality for my reasons already stated and also for the other remaining reasons I am going to present to you now.
If I had the choice right now to end all suffering on this planet and to give everyone lives of eternal bliss, then I would choose to do so regardless of what everyone else says. This would be because there are far more people on this planet who would benefit far more from living eternal blissful lives of no suffering who would find much greater value in that than those types of people who would instead benefit more and find more value in lives of suffering. Therefore, I would choose to end all suffering both for my sake and for the sake of those greater amount of people.
Not only that, those types of people who value lives of suffering more can choose to change their attitude to value eternal lives of bliss more if they were given such a life. People who value suffering and problems in life tend to have the mindset of accepting any problems/suffering in their lives and changing their attitudes to value this life of problems/suffering. Therefore, if I were to give these people a major problem (such as a life of eternal bliss), then they should be able to change their attitudes to value this new life even more than they did with their lives of suffering. They would also be far more likely to have the greater value towards this blissful life if they were to change their attitudes in living it since our suffering and misery serves to alter our perceptions and thinking in a negative way as I’ve said before while blissful lives of little to no suffering tend to enhance and ascend our good perceptions and thinking.
But if it’s not the suffering that these people value and it’s instead them striving and working hard towards a goal, then you can still strive and work hard towards a goal in a blissful life of no suffering just as good and even better than you would of had living a life of suffering. Therefore, suffering is completely unnecessary to do so. This is because not everything is handed to you in a blissful eternal life in such a way that you are not allowed to pursue any dreams, goals, and such. You can still work for these things anyway. For example, if you wanted to become a composer, then you don’t need any suffering in your life for that. You can still choose to study up on music theory, learn an instrument, etc.
But since there is no afterlife of eternal pleasure as a reward for all our suffering and that we are all just going to forever remain dead in the end anyway, then we might as well all just kill ourselves right here and now. Even me living for others with my worthless inferior life of no pleasure wouldn’t matter because they would just simply die in the end of old age as well. Therefore, even those people I lived for might as well kill themselves as well. But the only thing that is keeping me from ending my life now is the possible recovery from this anhedonia in the future because I do hear that there are people who do fully recover their lost pleasure eventually.
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So as you can see here, I do not accept problems from anyone or from this life. My attitude in life is that if you respect me and don’t give me problems, then I will respect you in return. But this life giving me problems of depression and anhedonia is disrespect to me and I will not be cool at all with that. I realize that there is no grand purpose in this universe and that there is no way for this universe to actually disrespect us since it has no intention and is a result of randomness and luck. However, based on my own value judgment, me not being able to live a life of full normal pleasure and even an eternal life of pleasure is what I personally judge as major disrespect to me. If I were in a hospital bed with cancer and I was told that I would never recover from it and that I am just going to have to accept it, then I would go into a psychotic rage and rip out my life support right then and there since I have been mocked, insulted, and dominated by this life and its problems/suffering rather than the other way around in which I have the dominance, power, and control over it. However, if I still had my full pleasure while being in that hospital bed, then I think I just might accept my cancer and live on in this life anyway. But if it was an absence and/or loss of pleasure that I would never recover, then that’s when I would immediately go into a psychotic rage and end my life. I think I can accept any other problem or disability in life. But the one and only problem I will never accept in my life is a lack/absence of pleasure since my pleasure is the one and only good thing about me and my life. Which would mean that I will never accept depression and/or anhedonia. This even goes for me being an atheist in that I will never accept the fact that I am just going to forever die in the end and not live on in an eternal life of bliss.
Now I would like to say that I am deeply and psychotically empowered/inspired by the world of anime and the cold ruthless characters such as Cell and Frieza from Dragonball Z. Not only are their personalities completely badass, but their personalities also reflect their superior god-like worlds of immortality and other superior god-like characteristics. This is what makes both their personalities and the characteristics of their worlds far superior to this inferior life of suffering and mortality. We as normal average everyday human beings tend to have personalities that accept, live by, and adhere to the inferior characteristics of our world. We tend to have personalities that reflect the inferior characteristics of our world. Those inferior characteristics obviously being suffering and mortality (and perhaps some other things as well). Therefore, people who just accept their problems/limitations in life who are not cold, ruthless, and destructive beings like Cell and Frieza who are characters who have attitudes of wanting complete dominance and control in their lives, attitudes of seeking immortality and perfection, etc., these people are weak and inferior human beings. Therefore, my attitude of hating, going against, and not accepting this life of suffering and mortality makes me a badass sort of like them and allows me to embrace their god-like forms and personalities as an innate part of my conscious.
These characters would summon up a destructive energy blast and destroy this entire planet if they didn’t get the very thing that made their lives good and worth living. Therefore, I would too if I had their powers and abilities. But only if it were somehow proven to me for a fact that I would never recover my pleasure (which I don’t think it can ever be proven). Except that, I would have nothing against the beauty and innocence of this life in doing so and I would have nothing against innocent people and living things. I would instead have this psychotic, cold, and ruthless inspired attitude against the suffering and mortality of this life and not against any innocent people or living things. I would be doing everyone a big favor by ending all of their pointless suffering (mine included since I would be sacrificed along with this life and everyone). I wouldn’t be spoiled and selfish in doing so either since it would all be for a good cause. This inspired badass attitude from these characters is the only thing that would make me the better person for choosing to end my life and everyone else’s. For me to accept and move on in life with my anhedonia anyway would make me utterly inferior and I would also be utterly inferior for no longer having the inspired personalities of these characters against my problems and this life of suffering and mortality. It’s not only my problems I would have this inspired attitude against, but I would also have this inspired attitude against people who have scorn towards my hedonistic values who don’t have full respect and compassion towards my hedonistic values/beliefs and towards my absence of pleasure. Now as for what I said about killing everyone, I don’t think I could actually go through with that since I am a compassionate and respectful person. Rather, I would just take it all upon myself and end my own life instead.

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Mozart, how ya been ol buddy ol pal? Nice to see you’re still kicking. Sorry to hear atheism still isn’t working for you. Did not read one word of your post, but I’m sure it’s awesome. Keep in touch.

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Too much information all at once. Nobody is going to wade through all this. Cut it down to one theme once evary few days, and keep it concise. You’re drowning us in a sea of words and themes… This blog is for discussing specific issues one at atime. We can’t discuss a whole biography. Try to put one theme into one short paragraph. Save the rest for another time.
Lois

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In conclusion, I am also going to bring up some points others might say to me and I am going to respond to those points:
If you are going to say something to me such as that:
“While I only skimmed that huge wall of text, the impression that I got, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that he values personal comfort more than factual reality. He wants to be free, but he doesn’t want to deal with the consequences of that freedom. He wants touchy-feely cuddling and is shocked that atheism doesn’t provide that.
Too bad. Nobody ever said that reality existed to make you feel good. Nobody ever claimed that the real world was a nice place to be. But just inventing a bunch of emotional coddling in the form of religion doesn’t change the real world, it’s still the same harsh place, no matter what silly things you pile on top of it to mask the sharp edges. Essentially this kind of position boils down to “I’m too emotionally weak to deal with the real world so I’m going to pretend things aren’t the way they are because I would rather be happy with dishonesty than unhappy with the truth”.
Does that sum it up?”
What I would have to say to this would be that although you are right since it is a scientific fact that this life does not owe us anything and does not exist to owe us anything, it would be disrespect of my personal hedonistic values for others to tell me that I am somehow weak for wanting to be happy or for them to have any sort of agitation/scorn towards my desire to be happy in life. They would be also be disrespectful for telling me that I am selfish, spoiled, or any other type of names for my desire to be happy in life. As long as I am not demeaning/harming innocent people, then you would have no right to disrespect my hedonistic values. If, let’s pretend, that I was delusional and happy in this life, then it would also be disrespect for you to then go up to me and tell me that I am delusional, this life doesn’t exist to make me happy, I am weak for being delusional and happy, I should face the truth, etc.
As I said before, if you respect my hedonistic values and beliefs, then I will respect your values and/or beliefs in return. But disrespect them in any given manner, then I will have the right to have scorn towards you and disrespect your values that tell me that I should just stop wanting to be delusional and happy in life. My own personal defined strength in life is being delusional and happy. Therefore, you should respect that while I should respect your personal defined strengths in life which are different than mine. Even though your personal values might very well say that being delusional and happy is a weakness, that only holds true in your own personal life and does not hold true at all for me. Therefore, I have found my own greatness in life which would be me being delusional and happy. Therefore, you go and embrace and live by your own greatness and strengths in life and do not harp on my own personal values just as I would not harp on yours.
Now if you are going to reply to what I just said in return by saying something such as that:
“I have no obligation to respect you or your views, hence all of that is irrelevant. Respect is earned. By all means, disrespect me and my views, it doesn’t change a thing that I had to say.”
Then what I would have to say to this would be that no one has the right to disrespect any other good person unless this said person has disrespected you in the first place. I have not disrespected you and nor would I have the right to in the first place anyway. In other words, I have not had scorn towards your own personal values/beliefs in life. Therefore, that does not give you the right to disrespect my values and beliefs no matter what you or anyone else says.
But if you are then going to say something in return such as that:
“Sure they do. How can you stop me from disrespecting you and your position? What planet do you live in where you think there is any right to be respected at all?”
Then what I would have to say to this would be that I can’t stop you. However, that would be dishonorable and should be scorned upon in return. Also, it doesn’t matter whether me wishing, wanting, and valuing a life of full pleasure as well as an afterlife of eternal pleasure gets me nowhere in life and/or only serves to be detrimental to me and my life. Having this attitude is the only thing that makes me the better person now since my own personal values say so and you would have no right to go against those values as I’ve already said before. As long as I am not harming/demeaning innocent people, then you would have no right to have scorn and go against these values of mine.
One final point I would like to make here is that I am against those people who are against my values of me wanting to be deluded and happy in life. I am out to prove them wrong and to say to them that they have no right to disrespect my values as long as I am not harming/demeaning innocent people. I would also say to these types of people that they have no right to go against and have scorn towards the hedonistic values of other good innocent people who also wish to be deluded and happy in life like me.

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“In conclusion”, good one Mozart. As if Lois and I hadn’t posted at all. You’re a stitch. And then as part of your conclusion, you say you’re going to bring up more points. I couldn’t read the rest because I was rolling on the floor laughing. Maybe try responding to things people have actually said instead of making up stuff and then responding to it.

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I didn’t bother reading any of this guy’s posts either. When they’re that long winded, I just assume it’s really just “posting as therapy”, not for discussion.

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In conclusion, I am also going to bring up some points others might say to me and I am going to respond to those points: If you are going to say something to me such as that: "While I only skimmed that huge wall of text, the impression that I got, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that he values personal comfort more than factual reality. He wants to be free, but he doesn't want to deal with the consequences of that freedom. He wants touchy-feely cuddling and is shocked that atheism doesn't provide that. Too bad. Nobody ever said that reality existed to make you feel good. Nobody ever claimed that the real world was a nice place to be. But just inventing a bunch of emotional coddling in the form of religion doesn't change the real world, it's still the same harsh place, no matter what silly things you pile on top of it to mask the sharp edges. Essentially this kind of position boils down to "I'm too emotionally weak to deal with the real world so I'm going to pretend things aren't the way they are because I would rather be happy with dishonesty than unhappy with the truth". Does that sum it up?" What I would have to say to this would be that although you are right since it is a scientific fact that this life does not owe us anything and does not exist to owe us anything, it would be disrespect of my personal hedonistic values for others to tell me that I am somehow weak for wanting to be happy or for them to have any sort of agitation/scorn towards my desire to be happy in life. They would be also be disrespectful for telling me that I am selfish, spoiled, or any other type of names for my desire to be happy in life. As long as I am not demeaning/harming innocent people, then you would have no right to disrespect my hedonistic values. If, let's pretend, that I was delusional and happy in this life, then it would also be disrespect for you to then go up to me and tell me that I am delusional, this life doesn't exist to make me happy, I am weak for being delusional and happy, I should face the truth, etc. As I said before, if you respect my hedonistic values and beliefs, then I will respect your values and/or beliefs in return. But disrespect them in any given manner, then I will have the right to have scorn towards you and disrespect your values that tell me that I should just stop wanting to be delusional and happy in life. My own personal defined strength in life is being delusional and happy. Therefore, you should respect that while I should respect your personal defined strengths in life which are different than mine. Even though your personal values might very well say that being delusional and happy is a weakness, that only holds true in your own personal life and does not hold true at all for me. Therefore, I have found my own greatness in life which would be me being delusional and happy. Therefore, you go and embrace and live by your own greatness and strengths in life and do not harp on my own personal values just as I would not harp on yours. Now if you are going to reply to what I just said in return by saying something such as that: "I have no obligation to respect you or your views, hence all of that is irrelevant. Respect is earned. By all means, disrespect me and my views, it doesn't change a thing that I had to say." Then what I would have to say to this would be that no one has the right to disrespect any other good person unless this said person has disrespected you in the first place. I have not disrespected you and nor would I have the right to in the first place anyway. In other words, I have not had scorn towards your own personal values/beliefs in life. Therefore, that does not give you the right to disrespect my values and beliefs no matter what you or anyone else says. But if you are then going to say something in return such as that: "Sure they do. How can you stop me from disrespecting you and your position? What planet do you live in where you think there is any right to be respected at all?" Then what I would have to say to this would be that I can't stop you. However, that would be dishonorable and should be scorned upon in return. Also, it doesn't matter whether me wishing, wanting, and valuing a life of full pleasure as well as an afterlife of eternal pleasure gets me nowhere in life and/or only serves to be detrimental to me and my life. Having this attitude is the only thing that makes me the better person now since my own personal values say so and you would have no right to go against those values as I've already said before. As long as I am not harming/demeaning innocent people, then you would have no right to have scorn and go against these values of mine. One final point I would like to make here is that I am against those people who are against my values of me wanting to be deluded and happy in life. I am out to prove them wrong and to say to them that they have no right to disrespect my values as long as I am not harming/demeaning innocent people. I would also say to these types of people that they have no right to go against and have scorn towards the hedonistic values of other good innocent people who also wish to be deluded and happy in life like me.
Oh well, never mind. Lois
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Superficially this looks like exactly the same stuff he was posting last year. :frowning:

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Superficially this looks like exactly the same stuff he was posting last year. :(
He's is a broken record. Lois